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3 minutes ago, Phil said:

And that’s early June. Try visiting in August. 😬

Ironically I’ll be in Saint Simon’s GA 8/7 - 8/21 this year. Going to be a test of will & strength.

Yeah I purposely avoid SC in June-August if I can help it. Had to go to a wedding and a family reunion this time.  This was the latest in the Spring i've been home in the 11 years I've been away.  usually go in October-Dec time period, or April

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1 minute ago, Phil said:

And that’s early June. Try visiting in August. 😬

Ironically I’ll be in Saint Simon’s GA 8/7 - 8/21 this year. Going to be a test of will & strength.

I spent 10-12 hrs/day @ Ft Stewart in that type of heat for three summers. 90 degrees here is very nice.

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2 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

With Phil... the only choices are always being set on fire and burning to death or drowning.   Pick one.    There is no middle ground.  😃

We don’t get “in-between” here very often.

If we’re lucky May and October can deliver spectacular weather. This spring was actually decent. The next 7-10 days look okay as well. But it’s always fleeting.

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23 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

So 56 and rain isn’t the only alternative to a massive heat wave? 😱 

I didn't enjoy last year's heatwave. I work a physical job, and I don't have air conditioning. If it had been 75-85, I would have been much happier.

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17 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Some say the world will end with fire

Some say with ice

From what I’ve tasted of desire I’ll hold with those who favor fire

But if it had to perish twice I think I know enough of hate

To say that for destruction ice is also great and would suffice 

There once was a man from Nantucket.

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3 hours ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

It used to be common wisdom that summer only started AFTER Independence Day weekend. Like most so-called common wisdom, that was not always the case, but it was the case quite often. We have had a run of summers that is not representative of historical norms.

Don't most late Junes have 80's before the show? It's fine if you guys don't hit 90 until after 7/4, but I don't use 90 as a staple for summers in the PNW. I found it was pretty rare to stay socked under clouds and 60's thru 7/5.

Ashland, KY Weather

'21-'22 Cold Season

Snowfall - 16.1"
December: 0.1"
January: 9.9"
February: 1.3"
March: 4.8"

Snow days: 10 - 4.8" - 3/12
Cold Highs (32 or below): 7
Coolest: 21 (Jan 7th)
Extreme Lows (below 10): 4 
Minimum: 5 (Jan 22nd)
Max wind: 40mph (Feb 18th)

Thunders: 24
3/6, 3/23, 4/7, 4/11, 4/30, 5/1, 5/3, 5/6, 5/14, 5/16
5/20, 5/21, 5/27, 6/2, 6/6, 6/8, 6/13, 6/17, 6/22, 6/25
6/26, 6/27, 7/1, 7/2, 

Tornado Watches/Warnings: 2 / 0 
Severe T'storm Watches/Warnings: 3 / 2
Frequent Lightning: 2 (5/20), (6/13)
Hailstorms: 0
Max Wind: 50mph (6/13)

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Just now, Timmy Supercell said:

Don't most late Junes have 80's before the show? It's fine if you guys don't hit 90 until after 7/4, but I don't use 90 as a staple for summers in the PNW. I found it was pretty rare to stay socked under clouds and 60's thru 7/5.

It can happen up here. Sunny and clear days have been pretty rare over the last few months. February was our sunniest month. We did hit 82 last Thursday. KGEG hit 79. We're going to earn nice summer weather this year.

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13 minutes ago, snow drift said:

I didn't enjoy last year's heatwave. I work a physical job, and I don't have air conditioning. If it had been 75-85, I would have been much happier.

Definitely be careful with exhaustion. That reminds me last year a McDonalds in Wilsonville didn't have a properly working air conditioning and several workers were hospitalized in the heatwave. I think right before the peak of that heatwave occurred, my bro was already packed up and moved to Colorado. 

Ashland, KY Weather

'21-'22 Cold Season

Snowfall - 16.1"
December: 0.1"
January: 9.9"
February: 1.3"
March: 4.8"

Snow days: 10 - 4.8" - 3/12
Cold Highs (32 or below): 7
Coolest: 21 (Jan 7th)
Extreme Lows (below 10): 4 
Minimum: 5 (Jan 22nd)
Max wind: 40mph (Feb 18th)

Thunders: 24
3/6, 3/23, 4/7, 4/11, 4/30, 5/1, 5/3, 5/6, 5/14, 5/16
5/20, 5/21, 5/27, 6/2, 6/6, 6/8, 6/13, 6/17, 6/22, 6/25
6/26, 6/27, 7/1, 7/2, 

Tornado Watches/Warnings: 2 / 0 
Severe T'storm Watches/Warnings: 3 / 2
Frequent Lightning: 2 (5/20), (6/13)
Hailstorms: 0
Max Wind: 50mph (6/13)

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6 minutes ago, snow drift said:

It can happen up here. Sunny and clear days have been pretty rare over the last few months. February was our sunniest month. We did hit 82 last Thursday. KGEG hit 79. We're going to earn nice summer weather this year.

To be fair I was remembering some of the time I lived west of the cascades. Both GEG and LMT do average warmer highs than PDX but June gloom doesn't last the entire month, or almost never did.

Ashland, KY Weather

'21-'22 Cold Season

Snowfall - 16.1"
December: 0.1"
January: 9.9"
February: 1.3"
March: 4.8"

Snow days: 10 - 4.8" - 3/12
Cold Highs (32 or below): 7
Coolest: 21 (Jan 7th)
Extreme Lows (below 10): 4 
Minimum: 5 (Jan 22nd)
Max wind: 40mph (Feb 18th)

Thunders: 24
3/6, 3/23, 4/7, 4/11, 4/30, 5/1, 5/3, 5/6, 5/14, 5/16
5/20, 5/21, 5/27, 6/2, 6/6, 6/8, 6/13, 6/17, 6/22, 6/25
6/26, 6/27, 7/1, 7/2, 

Tornado Watches/Warnings: 2 / 0 
Severe T'storm Watches/Warnings: 3 / 2
Frequent Lightning: 2 (5/20), (6/13)
Hailstorms: 0
Max Wind: 50mph (6/13)

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3 minutes ago, Timmy Supercell said:

Definitely be careful with exhaustion. That reminds me last year a McDonalds in Wilsonville didn't have a properly working air conditioning and several workers were hospitalized in the heatwave. I think right before the peak of that heatwave occurred, my bro was already packed up and moved to Colorado. 

Dewpoints were pretty low. If they had been any higher, I would have either bought an air conditioning unit or stayed in a hotel.

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6 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

I’ve always considered Spokane’s climate to be much sunnier and drier than anywhere west of the Cascades.

Spokane averages 191 cloudy days per year. Seattle averages 201 cloudy days. The difference is negligible. The percentage of sunshine in Spokane is between 47-48%. Denver has a percentage closer to 70%. Spokane is drier than Seattle. 

https://www.move.org/gloomiest-cities-in-the-us/

https://smartasset.com/mortgage/cities-least-depressing-winters

 

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2 minutes ago, snow drift said:

Spokane averages 191 cloudy days per year. Seattle averages 201 cloudy days. The difference is negligible. The percentage of sunshine in Spokane is between 47-48%. Denver has a percentage closer to 70%.

Guess that explains the ponderosa pine studded hills surrounding Sea-Tac.

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5 minutes ago, snow drift said:

Spokane averages 191 cloudy days per year. Seattle averages 201 cloudy days. The difference is negligible. The percentage of sunshine in Spokane is between 47-48%. Denver has a percentage closer to 70%. Spokane is drier than Seattle. 

https://www.move.org/gloomiest-cities-in-the-us/

https://smartasset.com/mortgage/cities-least-depressing-winters

 

I was actually shocked to see you get that much. Klamath Falls is like Denver's sun days but half the snowfall annually.

But if you think about it, I guess eastern Washington is influenced by more frontal activity than southern Oregon. And I assume less shadowing on rainfall.

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Ashland, KY Weather

'21-'22 Cold Season

Snowfall - 16.1"
December: 0.1"
January: 9.9"
February: 1.3"
March: 4.8"

Snow days: 10 - 4.8" - 3/12
Cold Highs (32 or below): 7
Coolest: 21 (Jan 7th)
Extreme Lows (below 10): 4 
Minimum: 5 (Jan 22nd)
Max wind: 40mph (Feb 18th)

Thunders: 24
3/6, 3/23, 4/7, 4/11, 4/30, 5/1, 5/3, 5/6, 5/14, 5/16
5/20, 5/21, 5/27, 6/2, 6/6, 6/8, 6/13, 6/17, 6/22, 6/25
6/26, 6/27, 7/1, 7/2, 

Tornado Watches/Warnings: 2 / 0 
Severe T'storm Watches/Warnings: 3 / 2
Frequent Lightning: 2 (5/20), (6/13)
Hailstorms: 0
Max Wind: 50mph (6/13)

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1 minute ago, Timmy Supercell said:

I was actually shocked to see you get that much. Klamath Falls is like Denver's sun days but half the snowfall annually.

But if you think about it, I guess eastern Washington is influenced by more frontal activity than southern Oregon. And I assume less shadowing on rainfall.

The Columbia basin is sunnier and drier than Spokane. I haven't looked at the numbers though. Everybody deals with winter inversions.

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18 minutes ago, Timmy Supercell said:

To be fair I was remembering some of the time I lived west of the cascades. Both GEG and LMT do average warmer highs than PDX but June gloom doesn't last the entire month, or almost never did.

It's pretty streaky. Spring 2021 was inordinately sunny. This year is the polar opposite.

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6 minutes ago, snow drift said:

I never paid attention. I don't recall seeing any Ponderosa pines over there.

Well obviously the landscape is significantly different over there.    Spokane averages about 1/3rd of the annual precip of SEA.    

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The models seem to be latching onto more of a -PNA / -EPO look in the longer range.  That would mean much more pleasant NW flow.  Simply insane how wet it's been...especially east of the Cascades in relation to normal.

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Winter 2021-22 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 14.1"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12

Total Hail = T

Coldest Low = 15

Lows 32 or below = 53

Highs 32 or below = 5

Lows 20 or below = 4

Highs 40 or below = 23

 

 

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1 minute ago, TT-SEA said:

Well obviously the landscape is significantly different over there.    Spokane averages about 1/3rd of the annual precip of SEA.    

True, Coeur d'Alene averages around 27 inches of precipitation annualy. Spokane, which is a little farther west, averages roughly 16 inches of precipitation annualy. 

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19 minutes ago, snow drift said:

Spokane averages 191 cloudy days per year. Seattle averages 201 cloudy days. The difference is negligible. The percentage of sunshine in Spokane is between 47-48%. Denver has a percentage closer to 70%. Spokane is drier than Seattle. 

https://www.move.org/gloomiest-cities-in-the-us/

https://smartasset.com/mortgage/cities-least-depressing-winters

 

Wow.  Seattle ranks number 2 for most depressing winters.  I thought our winters were supposed to be so great here according to some. 🤣

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Winter 2021-22 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 14.1"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12

Total Hail = T

Coldest Low = 15

Lows 32 or below = 53

Highs 32 or below = 5

Lows 20 or below = 4

Highs 40 or below = 23

 

 

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27 minutes ago, Timmy Supercell said:

To be fair I was remembering some of the time I lived west of the cascades. Both GEG and LMT do average warmer highs than PDX but June gloom doesn't last the entire month, or almost never did.

June gloom is usually due to marine clouds and not rain.  To me the sogginess this year is what is really getting me down.  At least with the typical marine clouds everything isn't sopping wet all the time.

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Winter 2021-22 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 14.1"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12

Total Hail = T

Coldest Low = 15

Lows 32 or below = 53

Highs 32 or below = 5

Lows 20 or below = 4

Highs 40 or below = 23

 

 

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1 minute ago, snow_wizard said:

Wow.  Seattle ranks number 2 for most depressing winters.  I thought our winters were supposed to be so great here according to some. 🤣

Seriously. There used to be this one poster who would constantly talk about how awesome our winters could be, and would even go as far as predicting one just about every year. 🤣 You would have gotten a good laugh out of it.

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3 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Seriously. There used to be this one poster who would constantly talk about how awesome our winters could be, and would even go as far as predicting one just about every year. 🤣 You would have gotten a good laugh out of it.

I meant the people who think the winters are so great, because they don't have very much of the evil that is known as snowfall.  Those people are delusional as far as I'm concerned.

At any rate if you were referring to me...it's pretty well known how much I hate our typical winter fare here.  Been that way for a long long time.

EDIT:  I noticed you said could be.  Yes we can have very good winters here on occasion.  

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Winter 2021-22 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 14.1"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12

Total Hail = T

Coldest Low = 15

Lows 32 or below = 53

Highs 32 or below = 5

Lows 20 or below = 4

Highs 40 or below = 23

 

 

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Just now, snow_wizard said:

I meant the people who think the winters are so great, because they don't have very much of the evil that is known as snowfall.  Those people are delusional as far as I'm concerned.

At any rate if you were referring to me...it's pretty well known how much I hate our typical winter fare here.  Been that way for a long long time.

I agree. Nothing worse than delusional people.

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7 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

I agree. Nothing worse than delusional people.

Not sure why you have it in for me all the time. 

Everyone knows you're out of control with the weenie emojis for people who dare to like anything other than 24/7 rain.

I did an edit to the post you quoted here.  There are about 10 - 15% of past winters that are good.  Not sure how you thought I meant they were all great.

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Winter 2021-22 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 14.1"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12

Total Hail = T

Coldest Low = 15

Lows 32 or below = 53

Highs 32 or below = 5

Lows 20 or below = 4

Highs 40 or below = 23

 

 

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1 minute ago, snow_wizard said:

Not sure why you have it in for me all the time. 

Everyone knows you're out of control with the weenie emojis for people who dare to like anything other than 24/7 rain.

I did an edit to the post you quoted here.  There are about 10% of past winters that are good.  Not sure how you thought I meant they were all great.

Him and his weenie emojis🌭🌭🌭🌭🙄

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5 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

Not sure why you have it in for me all the time. 

Everyone knows you're out of control with the weenie emojis for people who dare to like anything other than 24/7 rain.

I did an edit to the post you quoted here.  There are about 10 - 15% of past winters that are good.  Not sure how you thought I meant they were all great.

I guess it’s hard to me to understand the magnitude of complaining this year after how spring and early summer have gone the last decade. The other shoe had to drop at some point and this is just one year versus ten. Our climate is warming and drying in the dry season into the long term, so  years like this become more and more of an outlier as time goes on.
 

Anyway, throwing a hot dog on what I see as kind of silly posts given the context of our climate seems like a better alternative to engaging each and every time. We already have enough preference based arguments here.

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5 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

I guess it’s hard to me to understand the magnitude of complaining this year after how spring and early summer have gone the last decade. The other shoe had to drop at some point and this is just one year versus ten. Our climate is warming and drying in the dry season into the long term, so  years like this become more and more of an outlier as time goes on.
 

Anyway, throwing a hot dog on what I see as kind of silly posts given the context of our climate seems like a better alternative to engaging each and every time. We already have enough preference based arguments here.

Andrew and TacomaWaWx have been enjoying the spring this year. I don't have any problem with you or anybody else enjoying it, too. 

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The SSTA map right now does not look dramatically different than it did one year ago.    The ENSO regions are a little cooler but the overall configuration is quite similar.    This in no way implies there will be another 1,000 year freakish heat event.  Probably not in our lifetimes.   But maybe the overall pattern is actually going to quiet down significantly after the middle of June... which is pretty typical.   The first half of June last year was also really wet.

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37 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

The models seem to be latching onto more of a -PNA / -EPO look in the longer range.  That would mean much more pleasant NW flow.  Simply insane how wet it's been...especially east of the Cascades in relation to normal.

I would love a Canadian high pressure. It would clear out the clouds for a day or two.

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2 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

The SSTA map right now does not look dramatically different than it did one year ago.    The ENSO regions are a little cooler but the overall configuration is quite similar.    This in no way implies there will be another 1,000 year freakish heat event.  Probably not in our lifetimes.   But maybe the overall pattern is actually going to quiet down significantly after the middle of June... which is pretty typical.

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5 hours ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Hang out at the Whole Foods in University Place.

Haha, I'll be there this afternoon dropping off return items at the Amazon counter. Though I'm 2 years too young to be a boomer.

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4 minutes ago, Fircrest said:

Haha, I'll be there this afternoon dropping off return items at the Amazon counter. Though I'm 2 years too young to be a boomer.

I have always considered myself Gen X even though I was born on the cusp.

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Winter 2021-22 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 14.1"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12

Total Hail = T

Coldest Low = 15

Lows 32 or below = 53

Highs 32 or below = 5

Lows 20 or below = 4

Highs 40 or below = 23

 

 

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1 minute ago, Kayla said:

Took advantage of the short break in the rain and boy was a beautiful morning for a short bike ride!

These bluebird skies are long gone now though. Currently 56F and very rainy.

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Winter 2021-22 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 14.1"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12

Total Hail = T

Coldest Low = 15

Lows 32 or below = 53

Highs 32 or below = 5

Lows 20 or below = 4

Highs 40 or below = 23

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Kayla said:

Took advantage of the short break in the rain and boy was a beautiful morning for a short bike ride!

These bluebird skies are long gone now though. Currently 56F and very rainy.

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Beautiful. Nice to see healthy green trees out there too. What lake is that?

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Just now, Cascadia_Wx said:

Beautiful. Nice to see healthy green trees out there too. What lake is that?

Yeah...we all know it has to rain endlessly to have green trees!

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Winter 2021-22 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 14.1"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12

Total Hail = T

Coldest Low = 15

Lows 32 or below = 53

Highs 32 or below = 5

Lows 20 or below = 4

Highs 40 or below = 23

 

 

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Just now, Cascadia_Wx said:

Beautiful. Nice to see healthy green trees out there too. What lake is that?

Hyalite reservoir! Also known as Bozeman's playground. Very fortunate to live just 8 miles away from it. 

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Cold Season 2021/22:

Total snowfall: 119.0"

Highest daily snowfall: 16"

Highest snow depth: 20"

Coldest high: -5ºF

Coldest low: -25ºF

Number of subzero days: 1

Personal Weather Station on Wunderground: 

https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMTBOZEM152#history

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5 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

Yeah...we all know it has to rain endlessly to have green trees!

There has been massive drought related die off and wildfire across the west in recent years, so I don’t take green trees for granted.

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12z EPS is showing another very healthy looking trough as we head into the third week of June.

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Cold Season 2021/22:

Total snowfall: 119.0"

Highest daily snowfall: 16"

Highest snow depth: 20"

Coldest high: -5ºF

Coldest low: -25ºF

Number of subzero days: 1

Personal Weather Station on Wunderground: 

https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMTBOZEM152#history

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1 minute ago, Kayla said:

12z EPS is showing another very healthy looking trough as we head into the third week of June.

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At face value... probably a pretty nice pattern with the focus to the north.    The EPS has been consistently shutting off the fire hose after next week.     That would be a nice change of pace. 

 

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1 minute ago, TT-SEA said:

 

At face value... probably a pretty nice pattern with the focus to the north.    The EPS has been consistently shutting off the fire hose after next week.     That would be a nice change of pace. 

 

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I think we'll see a nice dry stretch after next weekend but I'm fancying another pretty strong trough as we head into the third week of June through early July. The longer we keep the 4CH in check the better IMO.

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Cold Season 2021/22:

Total snowfall: 119.0"

Highest daily snowfall: 16"

Highest snow depth: 20"

Coldest high: -5ºF

Coldest low: -25ºF

Number of subzero days: 1

Personal Weather Station on Wunderground: 

https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMTBOZEM152#history

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