snow_wizard Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 We desperately need more rain here. My rose bush isn't flattened enough from the weight of all the water on the blooms. We might as well go for the full on crushing and then have the flower petals beaten into the ground. Then and only then will I be satisfied we have had enough water fall from the sky. 1 3 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: We desperately need more rain here. My rose bush isn't flattened enough from the weight of all the water on the blooms. We might as well go for the full on crushing and then have the flower petals beaten into the ground. Then and only then will I be satisfied we have had enough water fall from the sky. Dry weather will come. Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: We desperately need more rain here. My rose bush isn't flattened enough from the weight of all the water on the blooms. We might as well go for the full on crushing and then have the flower petals beaten into the ground. Then and only then will I be satisfied we have had enough water fall from the sky. Tim is that you? 1 1 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 Did it even rain in the Seattle area today? Wasn't it like sunny and 70 there yesterday? 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blob Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 This afternoon was nice so we went to see the ships before they leave tomorrow. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: Tim is that you? Tim and I have almost become the same. Very scary. 1 3 2 1 1 2 2 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 12 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: Speak for yourself. When you get as old as I am you may feel differently. I have simply gotten tired of it. I have an aunt who lived in Aberdeen and she had the same thing happen. One year she decided she was done with it and moved to New Mexico. I can only speak for myself. so... ok. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: Did it even rain in the Seattle area today? Wasn't it like sunny and 70 there yesterday? It did rain here....not sure about Seattle proper. Yesterday was very nice. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: Did it even rain in the Seattle area today? Wasn't it like sunny and 70 there yesterday? I don’t really think it’s been extremely bad especially as we’ve moved into the second half of May here. It’s definitely been leaning wet and cloudy but there has been some nice days mixed in too. 2 Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, TacomaWaWx said: Dry weather will come. I know....I was just being melodramatic. It actually appears my favorite summer pattern is coming up. 2 1 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 11 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: We desperately need more rain here. My rose bush isn't flattened enough from the weight of all the water on the blooms. We might as well go for the full on crushing and then have the flower petals beaten into the ground. Then and only then will I be satisfied we have had enough water fall from the sky. 1 7 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 Some pretty wet GFS ensemble members popping up, but the operational and the GEM really dry things out, but it stays cool. 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: Some pretty wet GFS ensemble members popping up, but the operational and the GEM really dry things out, but it stays cool. Minus EPO and minus PNA suggests relatively dry at least, but certainly cool. 2 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascadia_Wx Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 53 minutes ago, TacomaWaWx said: I don’t really think it’s been extremely bad especially as we’ve moved into the second half of May here. It’s definitely been leaning wet and cloudy but there has been some nice days mixed in too. 2 1 Quote Summer grows while Winter goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 Nice and dry here this weekend. 70 on Saturday and 65 today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 48F and pleasant out there. Some wet grass which is much-needed. 4 1 Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerfylicious Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 Snowing at the top of Gemini run at Stevens Pass. Sure, why not June? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerfylicious Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 For all you summer lovers, here's it currently snowing at Alpental. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Town Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 Rather brisk on the old walk this morning. 51 and breezy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 8 hours ago, GHweatherChris said: Only for those weak in spirit and acceptance, if people live in the moment more, all would be good. Same thing could be said about people who complain about long periods of sunny and hot weather. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted June 13, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 Pullman is at 2.93 inches for the month right now... which is +2.36 or 514% of normal. And Pullman is +5.56 for the water year. Tri-Cities is at 338% of normal for June... and +2 inches for the water year which is statistically significant because they only average about 7 inches a year. Spokane is also at 303% of normal for June now with much more coming today. Sounds like a pretty dire drought situation in central and eastern WA. 1 1 3 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 18 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: Pullman is at 2.93 inches for the month right now... which is +2.36 or 514% of normal. And Pullman is +5.56 for the water year. Tri-Cities is at 338% of normal for June... and +2 inches for the water year which is statistically significant because they only average about 7 inches a year. Spokane is also at 303% of normal for June now with much more coming today. Sounds like a pretty dire drought situation in central and eastern WA. Great news. Thanks for sharing. 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascadia_Wx Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 59/51 day yesterday very cool for mid June. Morning rain then partly to mostly cloudy. Picked up another quarter inch or so putting me over 3” for the month. Mostly cloudy and a low of 49 this morning. 3 1 1 Quote Summer grows while Winter goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascadia_Wx Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 00z EPS dries us out a bit moving forward (typical climo after mid June) but keeps things fairly cool. Maybe a nice mix of sunshine and marine layer days. 8 Quote Summer grows while Winter goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 Also think this is the first time I have needed to wear jeans and a sweatshirt over here in mid June. 1 1 2 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phishy Wx Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 Junuary with a vengeance.... 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayla Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 Yellowstone river is running at historic levels this morning. Currently at 13.2ft near Gardiner which is nearly 2ft higher than the previous record set back in June 1918. The Gallatin river near me is at its highest level since 1974. The northern Yellowstone entrance is blocked off since this bridge washed away. 1 1 2 9 Quote Cold Season 2023/24: Total snowfall: 26" Highest daily snowfall: 5" Deepest snow depth: 12" Coldest daily high: -20ºF Coldest daily low: -42ºF Number of subzero days: 5 Personal Weather Station on Wunderground: https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMTBOZEM152#history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Mr Marine Layer said: Same thing could be said about people who complain about long periods of sunny and hot weather. Nah, the complaining from some about statistically moist periods is always worse than the other side. Tangibly, this spring and early summer so far has been delightful, something for everyone. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 9 minutes ago, Kayla said: Yellowstone river is running at historic levels this morning. Currently at 13.2ft near Gardiner which is nearly 2ft higher than the previous record set back in June 1918. The Gallatin river near me is at its highest level since 1974. The northern Yellowstone entrance is blocked off since this bridge washed away. That the bridge by Gardiner?! Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 Record rainfall at Roseburg yesterday. Also nice to see PDX and SLE's departures on the month down to about +1F. Still very possible many areas end up with a slightly below average June. 4 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 Winter lives 6 2 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubus Leucodermis Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 13 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: Record rainfall at Roseburg yesterday. Also nice to see PDX and SLE's departures on the month down to about +1F. Still very possible many areas end up with a slightly below average June. Yesterday was dry here. Not super-warm, but still a pleasant afternoon. Nice to see the more southerly trend in storm tracks persist. We have had more than enough rain up this way. 5 Quote It's called clown range for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 It was 43 at home this morning. 0.05" of rain since midnight. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayla Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 27 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: That the bridge by Gardiner?! No this is (was?) the Carbella bridge about 17 miles north on Hwy 89. The Gardiner bridge sits nearly 100ft above the Yellowstone river, the whole state would probably wash away if the Yellowstone crested that high! 5 Quote Cold Season 2023/24: Total snowfall: 26" Highest daily snowfall: 5" Deepest snow depth: 12" Coldest daily high: -20ºF Coldest daily low: -42ºF Number of subzero days: 5 Personal Weather Station on Wunderground: https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMTBOZEM152#history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 24 minutes ago, GHweatherChris said: Nah, the complaining from some about statistically moist periods is always worse than the other side. Tangibly, this spring and early summer so far has been delightful, something for everyone. Will your raccoon bite me based on my weather preferences? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Kayla said: No this is Carbella bridge about 17 miles north on Hwy 89. The Gardiner bridge sits nearly 100ft above the Yellowstone river, the whole state would probably wash away if the Yellowstone crested that high! I was going to say... I thought that bridge was pretty high when we went through there in October, I didn't really remember much about it though. 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted June 13, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 The 12Z GFS is looking a little phallic this morning... 1 2 2 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowerGarfield Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 It was cold last night. Had to turn on the heaters this am for the first time in a month or so. I had .19 inches of rain overnight, so in about 18 hours, we've had 1.07 since 1pm yesterday. 3 Quote Garfield County/Pomeroy, WA: 2023-2024 Snowfall totals: 14.3 inches HIghest snow total (per event): 5.8 inches total 1/11/24 - 1/12/24. Most recent accumulation (non trace): 0.20 inches on 2/26/24 Days with trace or more snowfall: 12/01/23 (0.60), 1/8/24 (1.0), 1/10/24 (3.5), 1/11/23 (3.5 inches with Thundersnow; separate event from prior day), 1/12/24 (2.30). 1/14/24 (T), 1/17/24 (1.20 inches), 1/18/24 (1.5 inches), 1/19/24 (0.20), 2/09/24 (0.30), 2/26/24 (0.20-mainly graupel), 4/5/24 (T) First Freeze: 10/27/2023 Last Sub freezing Day: 1/20/24 (12th) (8 days in a row from 1/12/24-1/20/24) Coldest low: -12F (!!!!!!!!) (1/12/24) Last White Christmas: 2022 at my location (on ground) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, Mr Marine Layer said: Will your raccoon bite me based on my weather preferences? Nah, he cool. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: The 12Z GFS is looking a little phallic this morning... Look at us in the goldilocks zone. 3 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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