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2 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Speaking of hot dogs... this is the weenie post of the day.

Similar to saying it looks like its going to snow right before Christmas but at least those sun angles will be getting higher then and that will make a difference.  

Huh?  There is absolutely no way to tangibly use that as an accurate comparison.

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Finally this looks about normal.  Been reading the complaining here for weeks about this spring but it hasnt been unpleasant.  Growing has sucked but that looks to improve soon, except for the increase in rabbits this year.  This is still way preferable to almost anywhere in the country.  I am a 2005 transplant and this seems like those first few springs. Summer around the 4th of July.  Got a party planned for the brand new deck on the weekend of the Fourth.  It ought to be awesome.

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Just now, GHweatherChris said:

Huh?  There is absolutely no way to tangibly use that as an accurate comparison.

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Its pretty much exactly the same.    Looks like winter/summer is about to start but at least the sun angles are increasing/decreasing by time we actually get to enjoy some season variety.    Its interchangeable.  

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Just now, TT-SEA said:

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Its pretty much exactly the same.    Looks like winter/summer is about to start but at least the sun angles are increasing/decreasing by time we actually get to enjoy some season variety.    Its interchangeable.  

Nah, the differences between the two are significantly different.

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1 minute ago, Randyc321 said:

Finally this looks about normal.  Been reading the complaining here for weeks about this spring but it hasnt been unpleasant.  Growing has sucked but that looks to improve soon, except for.  This is still way preferable to almost anywhere in the country.  I am a 2005 transplant and this seems like those first few springs. Summer around the 4th of July.  Got a party planned for the brand new deck on the weekend of the Fourth.  It ought to be awesome.

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Bainbridge Island is definitely one of the best places to be during warm season troughing.   One of the most likely places to see sun.  

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2 minutes ago, GHweatherChris said:

Nah, the differences between the two are significantly different.

Differences are always different right?  😀

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FWIW... the 00Z GEM shoves the center of the high up into Idaho by the end of the run.

 

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1 hour ago, TT-SEA said:

The sunniest year in both July and August was 1984... which happened to be the most persistently rainy April - June period ever in my area until 2022 took the crown.  Looks like it was a quite a flip in that year... hoping for something similar this year. 

Also interesting that the sunniest July and August was back in the mid 80s and not during any of the recent summers.   And the sunniest year was 1987.    Maybe the 80s weren't so gloomy around here after all. 

PDX stopped recording sun data in 1995 however. There’s a decent chance one of the years in the last decade would have made a run at 3000 hours of sunshine.

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1 minute ago, Phil said:

Everyone ready for some +TNH?

He’s gonna be our friend for the next several weeks. 🤮 

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Well your earlier predictions about a warm spell around this time seem likely to come to fruition!

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1 minute ago, Phil said:

Everyone ready for some +TNH?

He’s gonna be our friend for the next several weeks. 🤮 

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As long as it isn’t like that the whole summer we will be fine. Gives other parts of the country a break from the heat for a little while. Easy to forget that other parts of the country roast for us to stay cool a lot of times. I’m sure eventually the western troughing will return later in July like you think it will. 

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Tacoma WA elevation 300’

Monthly rainfall-3.56”

Warm season rainfall-11.14”

Max temp-88

+80 highs-2

+85 highs-2

+90 highs-0

 

 

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Just now, Doiinko said:

Well your earlier predictions about a warm spell around this time seem likely to come to fruition!

Maybe arriving a few days early! I usually have a slow bias. :lol: 

And I hate the +TNH regime with a f**king passion. Just a relentless humidity pump here. I’d rather have a hot/dry pattern than that crap again.

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1 minute ago, TacomaWaWx said:

As long as it isn’t like that the whole summer we will be fine. Gives other parts of the country a break from the heat for a little while. Easy to forget that other parts of the country roast for us to stay cool a lot of times. I’m sure eventually the western troughing will return later in July like you think it will. 

That is ideal timing... because that time of year is usually perfect even with weak troughing on the periphery of massive high over the middle of the country.  

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1 minute ago, TT-SEA said:

That is ideal timing... because that time of year is usually perfect even with weak troughing on the periphery of massive high over the middle of the country.  

I definitely won’t mind us getting some warmer weather. It doesn’t look extremely hot just warmer than normal. I get the feeling it won’t be a permanent feature and overall we will end up mostly with western troughing this summer. 

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Monthly rainfall-3.56”

Warm season rainfall-11.14”

Max temp-88

+80 highs-2

+85 highs-2

+90 highs-0

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Phil said:

Maybe arriving a few days early! I usually have a slow bias. :lol: 

And I hate the +TNH regime with a f**king passion. Just a relentless humidity pump here. I’d rather have a hot/dry pattern than that crap again.

I was hoping we'd avoid the 90s, but as long as it's not long lived I'm fine. I prefer the 70s/low 80s, but let's see what happens!

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7 minutes ago, TacomaWaWx said:

As long as it isn’t like that the whole summer we will be fine. Gives other parts of the country a break from the heat for a little while. Easy to forget that other parts of the country roast for us to stay cool a lot of times. I’m sure eventually the western troughing will return later in July like you think it will. 

Yeah that's true, the rest of the country bakes while we have had cooler weather, nice to see them get a break

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Current Soil Moisture shows some good moisture in the eastern half of WA/OR as well which is nice, the drought monitor has consistently been lowering the drought situation there which is really good to see. Let's hope next winter gives California some much needed precip though

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6 minutes ago, Doiinko said:

Yeah that's true, the rest of the country bakes while we have had cooler weather, nice to see them get a break

It’s sucked in the Plains/Deep South but has actually been relatively comfortable here thanks to the lower dewpoints. Ridging over the Plains puts us in NW flow more frequently.

If that flips to troughing we end up with SW flow instead. That stupid +TNH pattern is why 8/10 of our hottest summers on record have happened since 2010.

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I once again have a wet deck! 

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It was gonna torch at least once this summer. That we knew. Let's keep it more limited and weaker than previous years, and respond with troughing.

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 45.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; February 24th, 2022

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

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1 hour ago, NWbyNW said:

So my Everett station seems to be having an issue.  It's apparently 0F degrees and cloudy. :D Real temp is 56F.

The 7 day forecast is ok.  Thankfully it doesn't look too hot.  Sad to see so much sunshine.  Hope the clouds stay to some degree.  I already miss the rain.  But it was a good stretch we had.  :)

HAPPY FATHERS DAY! 

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WTF?

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Winter 2021-22 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 14.1"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12

Total Hail = T

Coldest Low = 15

Lows 32 or below = 53

Highs 32 or below = 5

Lows 20 or below = 4

Highs 40 or below = 23

 

 

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Just now, Meatyorologist said:

It was gonna torch at least once this summer. That we knew. Let's keep it more limited and weaker than previous years, and respond with troughing.

It hasn't happened yet.  Looks like pretty pedestrian stuff.

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Winter 2021-22 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 14.1"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12

Total Hail = T

Coldest Low = 15

Lows 32 or below = 53

Highs 32 or below = 5

Lows 20 or below = 4

Highs 40 or below = 23

 

 

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1 hour ago, Randyc321 said:

Finally this looks about normal.  Been reading the complaining here for weeks about this spring but it hasnt been unpleasant.  Growing has sucked but that looks to improve soon, except for the increase in rabbits this year.  This is still way preferable to almost anywhere in the country.  I am a 2005 transplant and this seems like those first few springs. Summer around the 4th of July.  Got a party planned for the brand new deck on the weekend of the Fourth.  It ought to be awesome.

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It has been.  Prove that I'm wrong.

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Winter 2021-22 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 14.1"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12

Total Hail = T

Coldest Low = 15

Lows 32 or below = 53

Highs 32 or below = 5

Lows 20 or below = 4

Highs 40 or below = 23

 

 

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I guess one good illustration of what a bummer spring this was can be seen with the progress my neighbor has made on building his raised garden.  He was all gung ho in March and was making great progress for a while.  For the last month the half completed project has just sat there growing mold and mildew.  It just isn't fun working on projects like that with shitty weather.

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Winter 2021-22 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 14.1"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12

Total Hail = T

Coldest Low = 15

Lows 32 or below = 53

Highs 32 or below = 5

Lows 20 or below = 4

Highs 40 or below = 23

 

 

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The 00Z ECMWF crashed the warmth pretty fast... with another ULL forming by next Sunday.   And the 00Z control run showed the same thing.     The 06Z runs of the EPS and control run go out through 144 hours and are both solid with the ridge at the end though.    But it is a situation ripe for ULL development so it could work out that way.   Minor details will have a large impact on temps coming up and nothing is set in stone.

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Unfortunate our nightmare summer has to come at some point. 
 

It’s like death. You know it’s coming, but you are never completely prepared.

Currently raining and 47.

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 82.13" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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Drizzle and 49 degrees. 
.03” so far on the day, 4.84” for the month, 33.60” for the year. 

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Got down to 51 here this morning. Euro shows one day hitting 77 here and that’s it…then a little rain at the end of the run. Not much of a warm up  there but overall should be some nicer days in there approaching climo for this time of year. 

Tacoma WA elevation 300’

Monthly rainfall-3.56”

Warm season rainfall-11.14”

Max temp-88

+80 highs-2

+85 highs-2

+90 highs-0

 

 

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10 minutes ago, MossMan said:

Drizzle and 49 degrees. 
.03” so far on the day, 4.84” for the month, 33.60” for the year. 

Summer weather that is the same as winter weather... sounds like a nightmare to me.    Someone should move to the Aleutian Islands where that is climo.   ;)

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3 minutes ago, TacomaWaWx said:

Got down to 51 here this morning. Euro shows one day hitting 77 here and that’s it…then a little rain at the end of the run. Not much of a warm up  there but overall should be some nicer days in there approaching climo for this time of year. 

The ECMWF will have a cool bias in this situation... so you can add 3-5 degrees to most days.      The GFS is the opposite on sunny days.

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8 hours ago, snow_wizard said:

WTF?

 

8 hours ago, snow_wizard said:

It has been.  Prove that I'm wrong.

Is it really so unbelievable and unacceptable to you that some people actually have enjoyed this weather 😂

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Tacoma WA elevation 300’

Monthly rainfall-3.56”

Warm season rainfall-11.14”

Max temp-88

+80 highs-2

+85 highs-2

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Just now, TT-SEA said:

The ECMWF will have a cool bias in this situation... so you can add 3-5 degrees to most days.      The GFS is the opposite on sunny days.

Even adding 3-5 degrees it really isn’t that big of a warm up though. It’d be our first stretch of a bit above average weather in a long time…which we’re overdue for. 

Tacoma WA elevation 300’

Monthly rainfall-3.56”

Warm season rainfall-11.14”

Max temp-88

+80 highs-2

+85 highs-2

+90 highs-0

 

 

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Just now, TacomaWaWx said:

 

Is it really so unbelievable and unacceptable to you that some people actually have enjoyed this weather 😂

Yeah... telling people they don't actually enjoy something is sort of silly.    I have no doubt that some people would like it to be cloudy and raining every day.    

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Just now, TT-SEA said:

Yeah... telling people they don't actually enjoy something is sort of silly.    I have no doubt that some people would like it to be cloudy and raining every day.    

We all know where you stand on the recent weather but atleast you don’t tell people they shouldn’t enjoy it. 

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Tacoma WA elevation 300’

Monthly rainfall-3.56”

Warm season rainfall-11.14”

Max temp-88

+80 highs-2

+85 highs-2

+90 highs-0

 

 

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40 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Yeah... telling people they don't actually enjoy something is sort of silly.    I have no doubt that some people would like it to be cloudy and raining every day.    

They can be singing my song I posted in the preference war thread while I accumulate more trolls, weenies and downvotes from them.

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2 hours ago, TT-SEA said:

The 00Z ECMWF crashed the warmth pretty fast... with another ULL forming by next Sunday.   And the 00Z control run showed the same thing.     The 06Z runs of the EPS and control run go out through 144 hours and are both solid with the ridge at the end though.    But it is a situation ripe for ULL development so it could work out that way.   Minor details will have a large impact on temps coming up and nothing is set in stone.

The ECMWF definitely wants that ULL to start crashing the party about the 28th or 29th.  If the timing were to speed up then perhaps we get back to building higher heights for the 4th of July.

GFS is off in it's own world and has the low centered over Minnesota. 

Man it's performance has be awful.  American made.

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0.27” of nature’s bounty this morning. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 82.13" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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29 minutes ago, The Swamp said:

The ECMWF definitely wants that ULL to start crashing the party about the 28th or 29th.  If the timing were to speed up then perhaps we get back to building higher heights for the 4th of July.

GFS is off in it's own world and has the low centered over Minnesota. 

Man it's performance has be awful.  American made.

Better than made in China 

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