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2 minutes ago, Phil said:

What was 1964/65 like up there?

That winter followed the big Agung eruption.

December had a quick but very cold intrusion of arctic air (December record low at PDX iirc) followed by record flooding for many parts of Oregon over Christmas. Not sure about the rest of the winter off the top of my head.

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29 minutes ago, Phil said:

What was 1964/65 like up there?

That winter followed the big Agung eruption.

Wet. Major arctic blast in December. Big cold onshore flow early January.

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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Interestingly, 2000 and 2001 have been the closest 500mb matches over North America this summer.

Obviously not nearly as extreme as those years, but it’s interesting to see a pattern like that (Plains ridging with troughs on the coasts) is still possible today.

Also, 2000 and 2001 were the coolest Julys ever recorded at Reagan National Airport. Such a strange La Niña that was.

Huge aberration in an otherwise disgusting trend.

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SSTs are over 90°F in the Gulf of Mexico right now. There are even a few 92-93°F readings in the shallows.

If anything gets going there, look out.

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December/January 1964/65 had 42” of precip at silver falls. Lol

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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7 minutes ago, RentonHillTC said:

Oops

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Lmao. Looks like that arises from a tiny cluster of thunderstorms on a decaying cold front.

I’d discount it 95% of the time, but once water temperatures reach the low 90s, literally anything can go off.

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6 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

December/January 1964/65 had 42” of precip at silver falls. Lol

Bet you’d love that.

IMO it would be a top analog if the QBO wasn’t out of phase.

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1991/92 was a strong El Niño in the middle of a monster solar maximum in a record breaking +AO regime (partly brought on by O^3 depletion, a result of both anthropogenic CFCs and intense geomagnetic activity).

And 1982/83 was a frickin super niño, also right in the middle of a massive geomagnetic maximum.

Both of those winters were *uniquely* stacked against significant middle latitude cold. The fact they both followed significant volcanic eruptions is dumb luck.

Look what happened in some of the follow-up winters that were setup more favorably for cold:

1983/84: Significant nationwide arctic outbreak in December. Weak Niña.

1984/85: One of the most prolific CONUS arctic blasts on record in January. DC dropped to -11°F. Weak Niña.

1993/94: Record breaking cold in parts of the US. ENSO neutral.

2022/23 looks like a deep La Niña, possibly bonafide strong. With a rapidly descending +QBO at the ideal time to maximize the NPAC high response.

Don’t see any reason for a zonal outcome. At least not now.

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30 minutes ago, Phil said:

1991/92 was a strong El Niño in the middle of a monster solar maximum in a record breaking +AO regime (partly brought on by O^3 depletion, a result of both anthropogenic CFCs and intense geomagnetic activity).

And 1982/83 was a frickin super niño, also right in the middle of a massive geomagnetic maximum.

Both of those winters were *uniquely* stacked against significant middle latitude cold. The fact they both followed significant volcanic eruptions is dumb luck.

Look what happened in some of the follow-up winters that were setup more favorably for cold:

1983/84: Significant nationwide arctic outbreak in December. Weak Niña.

1984/85: One of the most prolific CONUS arctic blasts on record in January. DC dropped to -11°F. Weak Niña.

1993/94: Record breaking cold in parts of the US. ENSO neutral.

2022/23 looks like a deep La Niña, possibly bonafide strong. With a rapidly descending +QBO at the ideal time to maximize the NPAC high response.

Don’t see any reason for a zonal outcome. At least not now.

Not to mention 1992-93 is the best winter in the PNW since at least 1985.

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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2 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Not to mention 1992-93 is the best winter in the PNW since at least 1985.

And that winter’s setup wasn’t favorable for middle latitude cold either.

Though Tonga is a bit different in that a large quantity of H2O was ejected in addition to various aerosols. So it’s an interesting test case.

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27 minutes ago, T-Town said:

Hope they brought a change of underwear. 

That's pretty wild. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Hmmm... Checking out November 1964, looks like Silver Falls recorded 10" of snow on the 13th that month. Not bad given we probably haven't had 10" total in November in the 11 years I've lived here. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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1 hour ago, T-Town said:

Hope they brought a change of underwear. 

Was wondering why they didn’t haul a$$ the minute they saw it was coming…. since it looked pretty open.  Guess it was because they already decided to stay in an area that can be sheltered from the avalanche once they changed the camera angles. Had they hauled a** and being in a more opened area, it would be bad. 
 

pretty wild

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5 hours ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

We were living in Stevenson, WA at the time and it was one of the more epic storms I’ve experienced personally. Had a couple highs in the teens and over a foot of snow. All with very strong winds throuout.

What brought you to Stevenson? Such an interesting small town with interesting Gorge weather. So quiet and rural but not far from Vancouver.

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Garfield County/Pomeroy, WA:

2023-2024 Snowfall totals: 14.3 inches

HIghest snow total (per event): 5.8 inches total 1/11/24 - 1/12/24.

Most recent accumulation (non trace): 0.20 inches on 2/26/24

Days with  trace or more snowfall: 12/01/23 (0.60), 1/8/24 (1.0), 1/10/24 (3.5), 1/11/23 (3.5 inches with Thundersnow; separate event from prior day), 1/12/24 (2.30). 1/14/24 (T), 1/17/24 (1.20 inches), 1/18/24 (1.5 inches), 1/19/24 (0.20), 2/09/24 (0.30), 2/26/24 (0.20-mainly graupel)

First Freeze: 10/27/2023

Last Sub freezing Day: 1/20/24 (12th) (8 days in a row from 1/12/24-1/20/24)

Coldest low: -12F (!!!!!!!!) (1/12/24)

Last White Christmas: 2022 at my location (on ground)

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1 minute ago, LowerGarfield said:

What brought you to Stevenson? Such an interesting small town with interesting Gorge weather. So quiet and rural but not far from Vancouver.

I was an AmeriCorps reading tutor at Carson elementary. Worked there for three years! 

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7 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Maybe we can score another major die off event for marine life 🤞 

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Don’t worry… the invasive European green crabs are doing that for us already between OR and WA. Some 5000% explosion in population.  And they munch on our shellfish here. 

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57 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Maybe we can score another major die off event for marine life 🤞 

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Cold kills too.   Do you lie awake at night worrying about nature hurting itself with cold?   How did the Earth make it billions of years without you around to worry about it.  😀

 

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31 minutes ago, Tyler Mode said:

Another picture perfect day.  Can we make it last all summer!?!

Way nicer than I was expecting.    I had pegged this day to be cloudy with late day clearing and a high struggling to 70.    That is what the ECMWF had been showing.   It's been sunny almost all day and it's just as warm out here as it was yesterday. 

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