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2 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

ICON prevents all hope from extinguishment 🤞

I'm confused what this means.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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5 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

Just no denying the 4CH / North American Ridge has become more dominant this century than it was before.  That makes it much harder for the Pacific High (which has been powerful at times this summer) to squash the 4CH.  The pesky cutoff low that is going to delay the real flood of cool air is the result of a very powerful GOA / Pacific High simply being unable to easily squash the continental high.  As much as I hate say / admit it I think our summer climate has changed to a different mode. 

At least the winters have actually improved from where they were 20 years ago.

Our winters do seem better in recent years. (Especially North of PDX).  I suppose I’ll take this change as long as we keep racking up good winters. 

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1 minute ago, snow_wizard said:

I'm confused what this means.

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Pretty cool late week trough as that ULL advects north and associated cyclonic flow drags in the cold airmass from offshore.

Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"

-2023-24*: 0.25"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

-Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"

-2023-24*: 0.25"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

-Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31

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5 minutes ago, TacomaWx said:

I guess the only good thing about the gfs tonight was the rain shown for southern/central Oregon and the monsoon season appears to be healthy in the SW. 

The pattern shown though certainly a decent rain pattern for areas that get lucky is also a thunderstorm pattern that can easily start fires in areas that get unlucky. A bit hit or miss for sure.

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2 minutes ago, Requiem said:

The pattern shown though certainly a decent rain pattern for areas that get lucky is also a thunderstorm pattern that can easily start fires in areas that get unlucky. A bit hit or miss for sure.

Yeah definitely could be a problem. Too bad it’s hard to come by regionally soaking straitform precip this time of year. Would be great if we could pull off something like august 2008 later next month. 

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Tim’s trolling this week has been top notch. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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37 minutes ago, TacomaWx said:

I guess the only good thing about the gfs tonight was the rain shown for southern/central Oregon and the monsoon season appears to be healthy in the SW. 

Still gets pretty cool next week as well.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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5 minutes ago, JBolin said:

Tested positive for COVID, this heat can f*** right off.

 

It's still 91F in my apartment, NINETY ONE GODDAMN DEGREES!

Box fans really help out a lot. Got 2 running have since 7pm. Don’t have a thermometer inside but I’d guess it’s 75-77 inside which feels pretty good. Hopefully you feel better soon. 

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21 minutes ago, TacomaWx said:

You need to step up your own trolling there Andrew…been lacking lately 😂

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Yeah, but what to say, complain about the heat and dying biosphere? The truth is to depressing sometimes. Might as well take it in stride and just work on getting through this time of year. Things are drying out quick, we burned some debris this evening in the burn pit, probably shouldn’t have done that, just hope we can make it until the fall rains without a calamity. On the plus side this spring was a blessing. Don’t expect anything less from summer these days. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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5 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Yeah, but what to say, complain about the heat and dying biosphere? The truth is to depressing sometimes. Might as well take it in stride and just work on getting through this time of year. Things are drying out quick, we burned some debris this evening in the burn pit, probably shouldn’t have done that, just hope we can make it until the fall rains without a calamity. On the plus side this spring was a blessing. Don’t expect anything less from summer these days. 

Yeah it’s definitely lame…might just have to get used to august 15th-September 15th being smoke season and a lot more hot weather in the summer even up this way. I know that fires are part of the natural order but not the way it has been recently 

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3 minutes ago, TacomaWx said:

Yeah it’s definitely lame…might just have to get used to august 15th-September 15th being smoke season and a lot more hot weather in the summer even up this way. I know that fires are part of the natural order but not the way it has been recently 

that's been spokane every year since i've been here 2018 and apparently it's been that way for about 7 or 8 years.  I expect smoke every August/Sept

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17 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Yeah, but what to say, complain about the heat and dying biosphere? The truth is to depressing sometimes. Might as well take it in stride and just work on getting through this time of year. Things are drying out quick, we burned some debris this evening in the burn pit, probably shouldn’t have done that, just hope we can make it until the fall rains without a calamity. On the plus side this spring was a blessing. Don’t expect anything less from summer these days. 

Sure would be nice to have some middle ground.    We went from almost 90 days straight with rain to now scorching heat and dry.   And will probably go back to 90 days straight with rain from Oct-Dec.  

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7 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Sure would be nice to have some middle ground.    We went from almost 90 days straight with rain to now scorching heat and dry.   And will probably go back to 90 days straight with rain from Oct-Dec.  

a key component of Climate Change is extremes.  the new normal, so I suggest getting use to it

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19 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Sure would be nice to have some middle ground.    We went from almost 90 days straight with rain to now scorching heat and dry.   And will probably go back to 90 days straight with rain from Oct-Dec.  

I will repeat what we saw this spring was a lot more in line with springs of the past... What we have seen in summer in the 2013-present period has no precedent in recorded history for our climate. It’s kind of an apples to oranges comparison you are making. It would be apt if the next 9 springs were some version of the one we just had. 

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2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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9 minutes ago, Phishy Wx said:

a key component of Climate Change is extremes.  the new normal, so I suggest getting use to it

The key component seems to be just plain old warming across the board. The Pacific Northwest as a region has seen an unprecedented lack of cold extremes the last few decades.

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3 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

The key component seems to be just plain old warming across the board. The Pacific Northwest as a region has seen an unprecedented lack of cold extremes the last few decades.

And when we have seen cold extremes they have come outside the heart of winter. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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37 minutes ago, TacomaWx said:

Yeah it’s definitely lame…might just have to get used to august 15th-September 15th being smoke season and a lot more hot weather in the summer even up this way. I know that fires are part of the natural order but not the way it has been recently 

Well... the fire situation is even more complicated than the rather straightforward fact of a warming climate. At some point nature will restore a balance, though it might be a different balance than we are used to. Unfortunately we’ve made some major mistakes in how we manage the landscape too which has added fuel to the fire so to speak. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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Just now, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Well... the fire situation is even more complicated than the rather straightforward fact of a warming climate. At some point nature will restore a balance, though it might be a different balance than we are used to. Unfortunately we’ve made some major mistakes in how we manage the landscape too which has added fuel to the fire so to speak. 

Wonder how long til a monster fire destroys most of the grass in the Willamette Valley?

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Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25”
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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13 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

I will repeat what we saw this spring was a lot more in line with springs of the past... What we have seen in summer in the 2013-present period has no precedent in recorded history for our climate. It’s kind of an apples to oranges comparison you are making. It would be apt if the next 9 springs were some version of the one we just had. 

Disagree for my area.    125 years of weather history and it has never rained on that many days from April - mid June.  Basically every day.    20 more sunny days thrown in would still have been very wet and more tolerable.   Climo would have been 30 more dry days in that period.

That was Nina to the extreme.    Now we have a summer that does resemble a Nina summer in any way.  

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On a personal note the warm weather will be a benefit in terms of drying this oak we are splitting this weekend. The rounds are from the February 2021 ice storm, but still could use a couple months of seasoning once they are split, should have gotten on this early in the month in case we have early rains in September.

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2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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1 minute ago, TT-SEA said:

Disagree for my area.    125 years of weather history and it has never rained on that many days from April - mid June.  Basically every day.    20 more sunny days thrown in would still have been very wet and more tolerable.   Climo would have been 30 more dry days in that period.

That was Nina to the extreme.    Now we have a summer that does resemble a Nina summer in any way.  

You fail to grasp the macro. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
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9 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

You fail to grasp the macro. 

I get it. 

But we just went from one extreme to other again.   I really did not expect a flip to a 2015-like summer.   

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7 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

On a personal note the warm weather will be a benefit in terms of drying this oak we are splitting this weekend. The rounds are from the February 2021 ice storm, but still could use a couple months of seasoning once they are split, should have gotten on this early in the month in case we have early rains in September.

Been a while since we’ve had an ice storm down here. Hopefully that trend continues. Freezing rain sucks. You can still see the trees with some limbs broken from that 2021 event and then right at the northern border of Lane County it abruptly just starts to look normal and the only tree damage we have down here is from the heat.

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Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25”
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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10 hours ago, Frontal Snowsquall said:

Hillsboro up to 101 and Scappoose up to 102. Clear skies for both of them with N winds. Scappoose might be the hot spot across the PDX Metro area today.

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Scappoose was also the hot spot during the August 2021 event, they hit 107 degrees with that.

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Still 71F at 4AM. Shitt.

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Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25”
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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4 hours ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

The key component seems to be just plain old warming across the board. The Pacific Northwest as a region has seen an unprecedented lack of cold extremes the last few decades.

Except for Baffin Island. Record low 850mb temp broken multiple times since 2013! 🥶 

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Summer is a lost cause until Yellowstone blows and saves us.

Solid trough/cooler than avg airmass and we still couldn’t drop below 73°F last night. Thought we had a real chance but..failsauce.

Off to FL. 🌴 

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