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Just mowed. Insane growth rate right now, on par with a typical May grass growth rate. 

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What my nights are going to be sounding like for the next 2+ months!

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Ashland, KY Weather

'21-'22 Cold Season

Snowfall - 16.1"
December: 0.1"
January: 9.9"
February: 1.3"
March: 4.8"

Snow days: 10 - 4.8" - 3/12
Cold Highs (32 or below): 7
Coolest: 21 (Jan 7th)
Extreme Lows (below 10): 4 
Minimum: 5 (Jan 22nd)
Max wind: 40mph (Feb 18th)

Warm Season Stats

Thunders: 50
3/6, 3/23, 4/7, 4/11, 4/30, 5/1, 5/3, 5/6, 5/14, 5/16
5/20, 5/21, 5/27, 6/2, 6/6, 6/8, 6/13, 6/17, 6/22, 6/25
6/26, 6/27, 7/1, 7/2, 7/5, 7/6, 7/8, 7/12, 7/17, 7/18
7/21, 7/23, 7/27, 7/31, 8/1, 8/4, 8/5, 8/6, 8/7, 8/9
8/10, 8/11, 8/14, 8/21, 8/26, 8/29, 8/30, 9/3, 9/4, 9/6

Tornado Watches/Warnings: 2 / 0 
Severe T'storm Watches/Warnings: 4 / 3
Frequent Lightning: 5 (5/20), (6/13), (7/6), (7/21), 8/1, 
Hailstorms: 0
Max Wind: 50mph (6/13), ~55 (7/6)

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10 minutes ago, Timmy Supercell said:

What my nights are going to be sounding like for the next 2+ months!

Also hearing the Katydids for the first time this summer tonight. So far just one species though (and no crickets or shieldbacks yet either).

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8 minutes ago, Phil said:

Also hearing the Katydids for the first time this summer tonight. So far just one species though (and no crickets or shieldbacks yet either).

It’s a good thing that slugs are silent because they are EVERYWHERE here right now. 

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6 minutes ago, Phil said:

Also hearing the Katydids for the first time this summer tonight. So far just one species though (and no crickets or shieldbacks yet either).

At first it was 2 katydids, back and forth, now a few others have joined the room and its like a tornado of sounds outside. 

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Ashland, KY Weather

'21-'22 Cold Season

Snowfall - 16.1"
December: 0.1"
January: 9.9"
February: 1.3"
March: 4.8"

Snow days: 10 - 4.8" - 3/12
Cold Highs (32 or below): 7
Coolest: 21 (Jan 7th)
Extreme Lows (below 10): 4 
Minimum: 5 (Jan 22nd)
Max wind: 40mph (Feb 18th)

Warm Season Stats

Thunders: 50
3/6, 3/23, 4/7, 4/11, 4/30, 5/1, 5/3, 5/6, 5/14, 5/16
5/20, 5/21, 5/27, 6/2, 6/6, 6/8, 6/13, 6/17, 6/22, 6/25
6/26, 6/27, 7/1, 7/2, 7/5, 7/6, 7/8, 7/12, 7/17, 7/18
7/21, 7/23, 7/27, 7/31, 8/1, 8/4, 8/5, 8/6, 8/7, 8/9
8/10, 8/11, 8/14, 8/21, 8/26, 8/29, 8/30, 9/3, 9/4, 9/6

Tornado Watches/Warnings: 2 / 0 
Severe T'storm Watches/Warnings: 4 / 3
Frequent Lightning: 5 (5/20), (6/13), (7/6), (7/21), 8/1, 
Hailstorms: 0
Max Wind: 50mph (6/13), ~55 (7/6)

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Finally switched out my gif. ;)

Lightning from 6/13/2022.

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Ashland, KY Weather

'21-'22 Cold Season

Snowfall - 16.1"
December: 0.1"
January: 9.9"
February: 1.3"
March: 4.8"

Snow days: 10 - 4.8" - 3/12
Cold Highs (32 or below): 7
Coolest: 21 (Jan 7th)
Extreme Lows (below 10): 4 
Minimum: 5 (Jan 22nd)
Max wind: 40mph (Feb 18th)

Warm Season Stats

Thunders: 50
3/6, 3/23, 4/7, 4/11, 4/30, 5/1, 5/3, 5/6, 5/14, 5/16
5/20, 5/21, 5/27, 6/2, 6/6, 6/8, 6/13, 6/17, 6/22, 6/25
6/26, 6/27, 7/1, 7/2, 7/5, 7/6, 7/8, 7/12, 7/17, 7/18
7/21, 7/23, 7/27, 7/31, 8/1, 8/4, 8/5, 8/6, 8/7, 8/9
8/10, 8/11, 8/14, 8/21, 8/26, 8/29, 8/30, 9/3, 9/4, 9/6

Tornado Watches/Warnings: 2 / 0 
Severe T'storm Watches/Warnings: 4 / 3
Frequent Lightning: 5 (5/20), (6/13), (7/6), (7/21), 8/1, 
Hailstorms: 0
Max Wind: 50mph (6/13), ~55 (7/6)

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59 minutes ago, MossMan said:

Just mowed. Insane growth rate right now, on par with a typical May grass growth rate. 

Starting to turn a bit brown here. But not like recent years... Does not look parched per se, nor in a state of drought. The core stalks still have their chlorophyll well in tact. The grass just seems to be drying out at the rate you'd normally expect it to, perhaps a bit slower.

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Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 45.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; February 24th, 2022

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

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1 minute ago, Timmy Supercell said:

Finally switched out my gif. ;)

Lightning from 6/13/2022.

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 45.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; February 24th, 2022

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

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8 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

Starting to turn a bit brown here. But not like recent years... Does not look parched per se, nor in a state of drought. The core stalks still have their chlorophyll well in tact. The grass just seems to be drying out at the rate you'd normally expect it to, perhaps a bit slower.

Also turning a bit brown here but it’s been awhile since it’s stayed this green going into mid July. 

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22-23 cold season stats

Coldest max-65

Coldest min-48

Monthly rainfall-0.04”

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Definitely not like 2019 though…grass was already fully brown by early June…but got greener as the summer progressed. Was greener by last week of august than it was during the last week of June. 

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22-23 cold season stats

Coldest max-65

Coldest min-48

Monthly rainfall-0.04”

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1 hour ago, MossMan said:

It’s a good thing that slugs are silent because they are EVERYWHERE here right now. 

Lmao. You’re the king of slugs and moss.

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12 minutes ago, Phil said:

Lmao. You’re the king of slugs and moss.

The two posters in our region who whine the most about the rain happen to live in the wettest microclimates represented on here.

Flip side seems to be they get more snow than just about anyone else on the west side and also hand chose their respective locations/have very nice properties there 😄

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1 minute ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

The two posters in our region who whine the most about the rain happen to live in the wettest microclimates represented on here.

Flip side seems to be they get more snow than just about anyone else on the west side and also hand chose their respective locations/have very nice properties there 😄

The things I would do to trade climates. More snow, rain, and clouds; plus it's colder.

City amenities and proximity to friends aside, I'd love to live in the foothills where Tim lives.

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 45.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; February 24th, 2022

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

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3 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

The two posters in our region who whine the most about the rain happen to live in the wettest microclimates represented on here.

Flip side seems to be they get more snow than just about anyone else on the west side and also hand chose their respective locations/have very nice properties there 😄

I keep the complaints entirely in relation to climo for my area.    The last 9 months have been off the charts in terms of rain.   Might be the wettest 9 months in history here.    

Living here has made me really appreciate the sunny, dry days we get per climo.   I literally picked this area because I loved rain.   I used to take the day off from work if there was going to be rainstorm in San Diego so I could enjoy it.   But rain is too easy here... now I find it hard to work on the sunny days because I just want to be outside.   Such is life.   Also why people in western WA are way more obsessed with snow than people in the Midwest and NE.   Snow is too easy in those places.

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8 minutes ago, Cloud said:

Wut? For Saturday afternoon. The 77 it's showing for Seattle came out of nowhere on the latest run.. 

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I am confused.   The GFS shows 79 for Seattle on Saturday which is about the same it has shown on most runs for that day.

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I Dont Believe You Will Ferrell GIF

It is so true.   I should take a video of my wife talking about it.   She still laughs about it today.    Sun was way too easy there... the big rainstorms were the real fun.   

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2 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

I am confused.   The GFS shows 79 for Seattle on Saturday which is about the same it has show on most runs for that day.

 

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Something wrong with pivotal maps or what? Are you able to show the 24 hrs trend with WxBell? Because that's what it's showing me for pivotal. 

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1 minute ago, Cloud said:

Something wrong with pivotal maps or what? Are you able to show the 24 hrs trend with WxBell? Because that's what it's showing me for pivotal. 

Not sure... but below is the 12Z run this morning and the 00Z run last night for the same day.   No real change.

 

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4 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

I am confused.   The GFS shows 79 for Seattle on Saturday which is about the same it has show on most runs for that day.

 

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GFS is just waffling on sea breeze timing. Cloud is sharing temps specifically for 00z Sunday, while this graphic here shows max temps during the 18z Sat-00z Sun timeframe; aka max temps for Saturday.

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Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 45.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; February 24th, 2022

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

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1 minute ago, Cloud said:

Look like the trend of the heat suppression for W. WA may continue early next week on the 00z. Now low-80s for Tacoma instead of mid-80s for Monday. 

Looks like 84-86 that day in Tacoma... about the same as the 12Z run.

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1 minute ago, Meatyorologist said:

GFS is just waffling on sea breeze timing. Cloud is sharing temps specifically for 00z Sunday, while this graphic here shows max temps during the 18z Sat-00z Sun timeframe; aka max temps for Saturday.

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Ahhh... I see that now.    The pivotal maps are really limited because you only see a single point in time.

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1 minute ago, TT-SEA said:

Looks like 84-86 that day in Tacoma... about the same as the 12Z run.

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I see the difference now. You're looking at a 6-hrs MAX whereas pivotal is showing real time. 

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3 minutes ago, Cloud said:

Something wrong with pivotal maps or what? Are you able to show the 24 hrs trend with WxBell? Because that's what it's showing me for pivotal. 

You are looking at two different graphics. Tim's graphic is the maximum temperature for Saturday afternoon. Yours is for specifically 4pm Saturday. Small differences in sea breeze timing means huge waffles for that specific point in time, but not max temperatures overall for that date.

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Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 45.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; February 24th, 2022

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

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4 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

You are looking at two different graphics. Tim's graphic is the maximum temperature for Saturday afternoon. Yours is for specifically 4pm Saturday. Small differences in sea breeze timing means huge waffles for that specific point in time, but not max temperatures overall for that date.

Minor detail... 00Z is 5 p.m. in the summer and 4 p.m. in the winter.  

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9 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Looks like 84-86 that day in Tacoma... about the same as the 12Z run.

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Wow, only 82 at EUG? 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 82.13" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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1 minute ago, TT-SEA said:

Minor detail... 00Z is 5 p.m. in the summer and 4 p.m. in the winter.  

ah. makes even more sense, since 4pm is a bit early for a sea breeze

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 45.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; February 24th, 2022

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

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34 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

The two posters in our region who whine the most about the rain happen to live in the wettest microclimates represented on here.

Flip side seems to be they get more snow than just about anyone else on the west side and also hand chose their respective locations/have very nice properties there 😄

My area is wetter than Mossman's and I don't whine about it. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 82.13" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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Apparently in the winter of 1968-1969, Seattle had 67.5" of snow, Eugene had 49.1" of snow, while PDX got "screwed" with only 34" 😔😔😔

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Location: Bethany, OR at about 250'

Snowfall:

     2021/2022: 6"

     2020/2021: 4.5"

     2019/2020: 1"

     2018/2019: 3.7"

     2017/2018: 5.5"

     2016/2017: 18"

     2015/2016: 1"

     2014/2015: 0"

     2013/2014: 9"

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5 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Minor detail... 00Z is 5 p.m. in the summer and 4 p.m. in the winter.  

 

3 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

ah. makes even more sense, since 4pm is a bit early for a sea breeze

Max temps aside since Pivotal is limited on that.. look like the trend is a quicker cool off by 5pm for the Puget Sound areas. Maybe perhaps too quick w/ the sea breeze though. We'll see. 

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1 minute ago, Doiinko said:

Apparently in the winter of 1968-1969, Seattle had 67.5" of snow, Eugene had 49.1" of snow, while PDX got "screwed" with only 34" 😔😔😔

Surprisingly out of the three, PDX, EUG and SEA, PDX's snowiest winter (44.5" - 1949/50) is less snowier than EUG's snowiest (49.1" in 1968/69) and SEA's snowiest (67.5" - 1968/69)!

Location: Bethany, OR at about 250'

Snowfall:

     2021/2022: 6"

     2020/2021: 4.5"

     2019/2020: 1"

     2018/2019: 3.7"

     2017/2018: 5.5"

     2016/2017: 18"

     2015/2016: 1"

     2014/2015: 0"

     2013/2014: 9"

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27 minutes ago, Cloud said:

Glad you aren't the only one with slugs problems

I send my kids out with a cup of salt to slug hunt around the garden 

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6 minutes ago, Doiinko said:

Apparently in the winter of 1968-1969, Seattle had 67.5" of snow, Eugene had 49.1" of snow, while PDX got "screwed" with only 34" 😔😔😔

There was a lot of onshore flow snow in January that year, so elevation played a big part in some of those totals. Downtown Seattle had 36.2", so there was a pretty big difference between them and SEA at 400'.

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Just now, BLI snowman said:

There was a lot of onshore flow snow in January that year, so elevation played a big part in some of those totals. Downtown Seattle had 36.2", so there was a pretty big difference between them and SEA at 400'.

A 30" difference between SEA and downtown? Wow, 400' can play a huge difference.

Location: Bethany, OR at about 250'

Snowfall:

     2021/2022: 6"

     2020/2021: 4.5"

     2019/2020: 1"

     2018/2019: 3.7"

     2017/2018: 5.5"

     2016/2017: 18"

     2015/2016: 1"

     2014/2015: 0"

     2013/2014: 9"

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5 minutes ago, Timmy said:

I send my kids out with a cup of salt to slug hunt around the garden 

We did the same thing when my kids were little.    

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4 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

There was a lot of onshore flow snow in January that year, so elevation played a big part in some of those totals. Downtown Seattle had 36.2", so there was a pretty big difference between them and SEA at 400'.

Same with 1949-50 actually, Seattle City had 33.9".

Location: Bethany, OR at about 250'

Snowfall:

     2021/2022: 6"

     2020/2021: 4.5"

     2019/2020: 1"

     2018/2019: 3.7"

     2017/2018: 5.5"

     2016/2017: 18"

     2015/2016: 1"

     2014/2015: 0"

     2013/2014: 9"

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39 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

I keep the complaints entirely in relation to climo for my area.    The last 9 months have been off the charts in terms of rain.   Might be the wettest 9 months in history here.    

Living here has made me really appreciate the sunny, dry days we get per climo.   I literally picked this area because I loved rain.   I used to take the day off from work if there was going to be rainstorm in San Diego so I could enjoy it.   But rain is too easy here... now I find it hard to work on the sunny days because I just want to be outside.   Such is life.   Also why people in western WA are way more obsessed with snow than people in the Midwest and NE.   Snow is too easy in those places.

You loved rain?!?!?! 😵😵😵

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36 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

It is so true.   I should take a video of my wife talking about it.   She still laughs about it today.    Sun was way too easy there... the big rainstorms were the real fun.   

You’d get the best of both worlds in ISLE OF PALMS.

Downpours with blazing sun in between.

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20 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

My area is wetter than Mossman's and I don't whine about it. 

What is your total so far for the calendar year? I’m at 34.21”  

Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! 

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3 minutes ago, Doiinko said:

A 30" difference between SEA and downtown? Wow, 400' can play a huge difference.

One thing about this region is that  basically as a rule of thumb the microclimates and elevation changes make for huge snow differences over such short distances. If anything it's a lot more uncommon for us to see anything near uniform snow distributions over the different metro areas. Definitely a different dynamic than somewhere like the Midwest, sans the LE snow belts.

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There are also snow totals from Jan 1950 in a lot of places around the Portland Metro area. Forest Grove unsurprisingly had the most at 59.0", but something that did surprise me was that Hillsboro (42.4") had more than PDX (41.0"), Downtown (32.9"), Troutdale (36.7"), Molalla (30.0"), and Estacada (31.0").

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Location: Bethany, OR at about 250'

Snowfall:

     2021/2022: 6"

     2020/2021: 4.5"

     2019/2020: 1"

     2018/2019: 3.7"

     2017/2018: 5.5"

     2016/2017: 18"

     2015/2016: 1"

     2014/2015: 0"

     2013/2014: 9"

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2 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

One thing about this region is that  basically as a rule of thumb the microclimates and elevation changes make for huge snow differences over such short distances. If anything it's a lot more uncommon for us to see anything near uniform snow distributions over the different metro areas. Definitely a different dynamic than somewhere like the Midwest, sans the LE snow belts.

Like in Feb 2018 when I had 5" while I think you mentioned that your area had 10"+, and in Feb 2019 when the east Metro had a nice 5" snowstorm while the south/west metro and a lot of Clark County saw barely anything.

Location: Bethany, OR at about 250'

Snowfall:

     2021/2022: 6"

     2020/2021: 4.5"

     2019/2020: 1"

     2018/2019: 3.7"

     2017/2018: 5.5"

     2016/2017: 18"

     2015/2016: 1"

     2014/2015: 0"

     2013/2014: 9"

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7 minutes ago, Doiinko said:

Same with 1949-50 actually, Seattle City had 33.9".

Yep, that's typically going to be the case there with SEA being so much higher than downtown and also being less shadowed in onshore flow.

The fun times are the cases where downtown gets nailed and SEA doesn't, usually from a convergence zone sagging south and then running out of steam. 12/18/1990 is one of the best examples. Downtown had 7-10" (8" officially) while SEA only had 2.5".

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