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4 minutes ago, TacomaWx said:

I get the feeling we will hit 4 consecutive +90 days later this month…definitely atleast 3. 

Your climate is so nice. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Just now, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Your climate is so nice. 

Yeah during the heatwave down there a week ago it was 95-98 down in the willamette valley…while it was 83-86 up here. Only hit 84 here on the 12th. Even during the worst summers the most +85 days I’ve recorded was 19 in 2015. Had 13 last year which overall is much more bearable than what you guys have been dealing with. 

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44 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

The south end of Vancouver Island gets extreme inversions due to how cold the Strait of Juan de Fuca is.  No low clouds needed to keep that going when within a few miles of the water.  It might the wind that prevents low clouds from forming as easily.

Jim it's nice to see you posting more this summer.  Usually you disappear until October.

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43 minutes ago, bainbridgekid said:

Julio putting on a show in LA. 63 homers in the first two rounds and he’s onto the finals. Feels like a superstar’s coming out party.

Soto ftw! DC beats Seattle. 💪 

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2 minutes ago, The Swamp said:

Jim it's nice to see you posting more this summer.  Usually you disappear until October.

He's very passionate. It's nice to have members with pure, unbridled love for meteorology. It's been great to have him this warm season.

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"

-2023-24*: 0.25"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

-Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31

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22 minutes ago, Phil said:

Soto ftw! DC beats Seattle. 💪 

lmao you post this here? in the PNW thread?

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"

-2023-24*: 0.25"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

-Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31

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26 minutes ago, Phil said:

Soto ftw! DC beats Seattle. 💪 

Julio hit the 2nd most homers ever in a derby. A superstar was born today and he’s just 21 years old.

Just tired himself out hitting too many homers the first two rounds and missed the bonus 30 seconds he needed to beat Soto in the finale.

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Everett Snowfall (510 feet elevation)

Snow since February 2019: 91"

2023-24: 6"

2022-23: 17.5"

2021-22: 17.75"

2020-21: 14.5”

2019-20: 10.5"

2018-19: 24.75"

 

 

 

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Seeing this on a 528hr ensemble mean is pretty remarkable.

Looks like @TT-SEA will have his dreams fulfilled in MN.

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1 minute ago, Phil said:

Seeing this on a 528hr ensemble mean is pretty remarkable.

Looks like @TT-SEA will have his dreams fulfilled in MN.

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Looks nice here.

Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"

-2023-24*: 0.25"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

-Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31

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2 minutes ago, bainbridgekid said:

Julio hit the 2nd most homers ever in a derby. A superstar was born today and he’s just 21 years old.

No doubt a very impressive performance.

I really want to see Stanton or Judge compete in a derby again. Either one of them would’ve mopped the floor with the competition.

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1 hour ago, Meatyorologist said:

Nome setting long standing records with this mammoth trough, not even sitting in its center.

Not to sound like Bastardi but this is kind of an equal and opposite phenomena to the European heat wave right now. Fleeting, though, and I'm sure there will be plenty more unanswered all time record heat waves all across the globe to come...

Every action has an opposite and equal reaction....

We are seeing records like this all the time this year.  I think we are getting into a 1930s configuration (highly perturbed and amplified).

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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3 minutes ago, T-Town said:

Dude turned down a $440M contract offer from the Nats. Mariners Twitter is demanding the Mariners trade for him. 

That would break baseball.

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"

-2023-24*: 0.25"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

-Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31

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26 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

He's very passionate. It's nice to have members with pure, unbridled love for meteorology. It's been great to have him this warm season.

I do love his passion, and I also like that someone besides me has a cool and sunny summer weather preference, which I’ve discovered is a rare combo both on this forum and IRL. We both probably need to live in another climate!

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1 hour ago, Meatyorologist said:

Nome setting long standing records with this mammoth trough, not even sitting in its center.

Not to sound like Bastardi but this is kind of an equal and opposite phenomena to the European heat wave right now. Fleeting, though, and I'm sure there will be plenty more unanswered all time record heat waves all across the globe to come...

Freakin’ peanut gallery and their long range Euro maps verifying…

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34 minutes ago, The Swamp said:

Jim it's nice to see you posting more this summer.  Usually you disappear until October.

Thanks!

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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4 minutes ago, MV_snow said:

I do love his passion, and I also like that someone besides me has a cool and sunny summer weather preference, which I’ve discovered is a rare combo both on this forum and IRL. We both probably need to live in another climate!

Really surprising more people don't like that combo.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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1 hour ago, snow_wizard said:

They are totally open from the West.

Original post referred to the Saanich Peninsula which has land to the west and seems like it should be more protected than the Strait of Juan de Fuca. Must be some combination of strait wind and Olympic shadowing that gives that specific area less marine layer formation.

Echoing above posts, I really love your contributions around here. You truly know Pacific Northwest climate intimately well. Sure you might be a bit of a wishcaster at times but I am too.

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3 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

Every action has an opposite and equal reaction....

We are seeing records like this all the time this year.  I think we are getting into a 1930s configuration (highly perturbed and amplified).

What was January 1930 like in the Puget Sound? At Hillsboro, the avg temp was 25.3 with 24.2" of snow. That would be amazing to experience, Hillsboro dropped to -14 degrees! And 15 subfreezing highs in a row at Hillsboro and 19 in a row in Downtown.

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34 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

He's very passionate. It's nice to have members with pure, unbridled love for meteorology. It's been great to have him this warm season.

I'll be extremely surprised if it actually happens.  Not saying it won't, but the uncertainty is so great for week 2 right now.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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5 minutes ago, Omegaraptor said:

Original post referred to the Saanich Peninsula which has land to the west and seems like it should be more protected than the Strait of Juan de Fuca. Must be some combination of strait wind and Olympic shadowing that gives that specific area less marine layer formation.

Echoing above posts, I really love your contributions around here. You truly know Pacific Northwest climate intimately well. Sure you might be a bit of a wishcaster at times but I am too.

That would make sense. The Saanich Peninsula and even Victoria itself is situated a little north of where the westerlies would come through the strait. There are probably days where Sooke and points west on coastal VI are socked in while Vic and points north are clear.

In any case, the proximity to water seems to prevent them from torching: Saanich is only forecast to get to upper 70s early next week while we may hit 90 at home. A place with no marine layers and no torching is a rare combo and seems like heaven to me. Too bad the hoops required to move to Canada are way more than what I’d want to jump through.

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1 hour ago, Meatyorologist said:

Nome setting long standing records with this mammoth trough, not even sitting in its center.

Not to sound like Bastardi but this is kind of an equal and opposite phenomena to the European heat wave right now. Fleeting, though, and I'm sure there will be plenty more unanswered all time record heat waves all across the globe to come...

And of course for added perspective, Nome was still running 3 degrees above average through yesterday on the month. So it's hardly been consistently frigid up there so far.

Impressive 46/34 day there today, however.

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30 minutes ago, bainbridgekid said:

Julio hit the 2nd most homers ever in a derby. A superstar was born today and he’s just 21 years old.

Just tired himself out hitting too many homers the first two rounds and missed the bonus 30 seconds he needed to beat Soto in the finale.

Julio should have quit swinging in the second round when he already won the round, that hurt him for the final.

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30 minutes ago, Phil said:

Seeing this on a 528hr ensemble mean is pretty remarkable.

Looks like @TT-SEA will have his dreams fulfilled in MN.

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We will be gone by then.

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18 minutes ago, Doiinko said:

What was January 1930 like in the Puget Sound? At Hillsboro, the avg temp was 25.3 with 24.2" of snow. That would be amazing to experience, Hillsboro dropped to -14 degrees! And 15 subfreezing highs in a row at Hillsboro and 19 in a row in Downtown.

NW OR and SW WA were a lot colder and snowier with that. More of a gorge component with the cold air that month and a lot of jet suppression. The big snowstorms on the 15th and 18th largely missed the Puget Sound region to the south.

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25 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

Really surprising more people don't like that combo.

I would venture to guess that mid 70s and sunshine would be considered ideal summer weather for fairly large percentage of the population.    And that is considered cool weather for summer for most of the country.     

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5 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

NW OR and SW WA were a lot colder and snowier with that. More of a gorge component with the cold air that month and a lot of jet suppression. The big snowstorms on the 15th and 18th largely missed the Puget Sound region to the south.

Downtown Portland seems to have had less snow than Hillsboro, which also was the case with Jan 1950 and PDX had a decent bit more than Downtown in 1968-69. It just seems that Downtown Portland gets a lot less than the rest of the metro area a lot. My area doesn't benefit from cold air damming but in 1968-69 my area had over a foot more than Downtown Portland, and PDX had like 8" more. Is there a reason that Downtown Portland seems to not do as well a lot of the time?

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14 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

We will be gone by then.

I mean it’s basically the same before that too.

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12 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

I would venture to guess that mid 70s and sunshine would be considered ideal summer weather for fairly large percentage of the population.    And that is considered cool weather for summer for most of the country.     

There's those people who set their thermostat to 68 or lower during the summer, so I imagine mid 60s would be ideal outdoor weather for them. Imagine how much electricity that wastes in a hot climate.

Then there's some people who set their thermostats higher in the winter than the summer. Do they like to be inside in shorts and T-shirts during the winter and sweaters and jeans in the summer?

Finally there's this ridiculous advice:

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As a rule of thumb, sleep psychologist Michelle Drerup, PsyD, says to keep your bedroom at 60 to 67° F (15 to 19° C) and to think of your bedroom as your ‘cave.’ “It should be cool, dark and quiet to enhance your sleep.”

 

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3 minutes ago, Doiinko said:

Downtown Portland seems to have had less snow than Hillsboro, which also was the case with Jan 1950 and PDX had a decent bit more than Downtown in 1968-69. It just seems that Downtown Portland gets a lot less than the rest of the metro area a lot. My area doesn't benefit from cold air damming but in 1968-69 my area had over a foot more than Downtown Portland, and PDX had like 8" more. Is there a reason that Downtown Portland seems to not do as well a lot of the time?

Elevation. Both of Portland's official measuring stations have always been below 50' ASL. So not great proxies for the suburban areas which are mostly >200' elevation. A couple hundred feet can easily make a difference. UHI also impacts their temps of course but doesn't really make a meaningful difference with snow totals, which are overwhelmingly dependent on the profile of the air column.

 

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9 minutes ago, Phil said:

I mean it’s basically the same before that too.

Doesn't look too bad for the next week.   Today was hot for sure... and I doubt it sunny right now since its after 11 p.m. but looks decent enough going forward.

 

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1 minute ago, BLI snowman said:

Elevation. Both of Portland's official measuring stations have always been below 50' ASL. So not great proxies for the suburban areas which are mostly >200' elevation. A couple hundred feet can easily make a difference. UHI also impacts their temps of course but doesn't really make a meaningful difference with snow totals, which are overwhelmingly dependent on the profile of the air column.

 

Oh that makes sense. It's interesting to see the variation of snow totals around the metro area, for example the old Hillsboro COOP station is only ~8 miles away and the airport is only ~5 miles away but in 1968-69 Hillsboro had around 26" of snow while the Bethany COOP station had 39". I'm also pretty sure my area while only being 5 miles away from the airport is a much worse radiational cooling spot.

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9 minutes ago, Doiinko said:

Oh that makes sense. It's interesting to see the variation of snow totals around the metro area, for example the old Hillsboro COOP station is only ~8 miles away and the airport is only ~5 miles away but in 1968-69 Hillsboro had around 26" of snow while the Bethany COOP station had 39". I'm also pretty sure my area while only being 5 miles away from the airport is a much worse radiational cooling spot.

I wouldn't take the Hillsboro snow numbers at face value. Their data set is choppy at best and full of missing and/or inaccurate snow data, particularly by the 1960s. A lot of the old COOP stations have been pretty terrible at recording snow, unfortunately.

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