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The people who watch FOX hate CNN because they claim it is biased.

The people who watch CNN hate FOX because they claim it is biased.

 

Sounds to me like someone is playing everyone for fools.

I don't watch either.  It's awful.  I read/watch local news and newspapers that can be held accountable for falsehoods.  People can sue for "Fake news".  Retractions get issued.  The media isn't always fake.  The news isn't always fake.  But cable news is opinionated drivel.  Social media is 90 percent bots and misinformation.  

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Freedom and tyranny cannot coexist. CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, and FOX are state run media. FOX does allow opinion after 8pm that is grounded in truth but that is on borrowed time. FOX Nation is the beginning of the end for this.

 

You may wonder why half of America con "believe" one thing and the other half can "believe" another. This is accomplished by magical "spells." 

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A Navy Chief said, "Never change your forecast. That way you can only be wrong once."

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What is your point?  This just started.  The death toll will climb much higher for a brand new disease.  Should we just ignore it?  Measures are being taken to eliminate the worst case scenario, which exceed all of those.   This is still going to kill a lot of people.  But the media is making it up?  So stupid.  COVID-19 is proven to spread more easily,  kill older people more easily and transmit without showing hardly any symptoms.  There are not enough tests for people unlike when H1N1 was circulating.  No vaccine, no natural immunity.  These are FACTS.  Not FAKE news.  Stop blaming the media for all of your problems.  Media is what makes America great.  Free from Government oppression and censoring.    Amazing how conservatives forgot that.   

 

Already this morning, just 2 days later, government news outlet ran a story interviewing their medical industry expert who stated that "over reaction" to this virus could easily cause more system failures and thus ultimately more deaths than the virus itself. Since "news" publishing and/or broadcasting was created, sensationalism has "sold". The bigger the story, the more people wanted to get their hands on a copy of the "EXTRA" edition. Being first and biggest with a breaking story has always been the holy grail of news providers. Btw, I never said news outlets are all spewing fake news. I did say keep this (and any breaking story) in proper perspective. The 2nd embolded statement tells me you really stretch what others write. Where did I blame any media for "all my problems"?. 

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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This weather is boring, stagnant and sucks.

 

Ikr. I'm totally over winter and any flakes flying just depresses me at this point. Yet, tonight's threat is at least slightly interesting as it's the most exciting event in some time around here. I'd much rather be excited for 65F and sunny, but that ain't happening ofc.. 

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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Ikr. I'm totally over winter and any flakes flying just depresses me at this point. Yet, tonight's threat is at least slightly interesting as it's the most exciting event in some time around here. I'd much rather be excited for 65F and sunny, but that ain't happening ofc..

I’d take 50 sunny. Holed up in the house with 14 month twins and 11 and 15 yr old kids making me cranky. soon though.

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^^^ That IS funny!  :lol:

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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I'm essential. Happy to be working, but not at the risk of spreading this disease.

Same here, buddy. And those were my exact thoughts a couple of weeks ago. Hope I'm not one of the asymptomatic carriers, but even if I am, I feel I'm taking every precaution I can. Between work and Animal Crossing (couldn't have come at a better time!) I still feel a sense of normal.

 

I feel for those temporarily or permanently out of work, and of course for those who do get ill. I am also glad that so far during this pandemic the stories of good will and compassion for neighbors, friends and strangers have far outweighed the bad. Let's hope that continues. Be safe all!

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Same here, buddy. And those were my exact thoughts a couple of weeks ago. Hope I'm not one of the asymptomatic carriers, but even if I am, I feel I'm taking every precaution I can. Between work and Animal Crossing (couldn't have come at a better time!) I still feel a sense of normal.

 

I feel for those temporarily or permanently out of work, and of course for those who do get ill. I am also glad that so far during this pandemic the stories of good will and compassion for neighbors, friends and strangers have far outweighed the bad. Let's hope that continues. Be safe all!

 

Pretty sure we are OFTEN asymptomatic carriers of whatever flu virus of the year is going around. This one is ofc much more highly publicized than say Beijing Type A back in the mid-80's before there were multiple ways to get news instantly from around the globe 24/7 via the www. Not to diminish the seriousness of the risk, nor the severe symptoms (read painful) of those who suffer the extreme effects, but even the common old flu takes a huge toll on the population.

 

Stats for the US two yrs ago:

 

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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This is why this is more serious than the flu. And we’re not even close to the peak of this.

Michigan hospital system near capacity for ventilators already.

https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2020/03/24/officials-say-beaumont-hospitals-are-nearing-ventilator-capacity-as-michigan-coronavirus-covid-19-cases-increase/

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The other day I started with another cold and slight fever unless it might be COVID 19, but I doubt it since I’m staying at home and people rarely stop in. Might be possible to get it through USPS mail delivery, but I read that wouldn’t be likely at all. Ia City is the hot spot of my state with around 37 positive cases in this county as of last report today. Anyway, another reason I’m not fond of winter is because I get a nasty cold once or twice every winter with flu etc viruses being more prevalent. Thankfully the warm season is on the way.

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This is why this is more serious than the flu. And we’re not even close to the peak of this.

Michigan hospital system near capacity for ventilators already.

https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2020/03/24/officials-say-beaumont-hospitals-are-nearing-ventilator-capacity-as-michigan-coronavirus-covid-19-cases-increase/

 

Knowing how Peeps in this country run to the ER for every little sniffle, I'm dead certain anyone and everyone diagnosed will expect if not demand extreme measures to ensure "least discomfort". We're a bunch of sissy types any more. There was a time when folks just sucked it up and toughed out such things, only going to a hospital when it was really necessary. Our pampered society will be it's own worst enemy in this situation. Expect it!

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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Knowing how Peeps in this country run to the ER for every little sniffle, I'm dead certain anyone and everyone diagnosed will expect if not demand extreme measures to ensure "least discomfort". We're a bunch of sissy types any more. There was a time when folks just sucked it up and toughed out such things, only going to a hospital when it was really necessary. Our pampered society will be it's own worst enemy in this situation. Expect it!

Yeah all those sissies on ventilators need to toughen up!! Why would they go to a hospital if they can't breathe?

You obviously didn't read the story nor are taking this seriously.

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Yeah all those sissies on ventilators need to toughen up!! Why would they go to a hospital if they can't breathe?

You obviously didn't read the story nor are taking this seriously.

At no point did he say nor imply that. Don't blow it out of proportion.
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Knowing how Peeps in this country run to the ER for every little sniffle, I'm dead certain anyone and everyone diagnosed will expect if not demand extreme measures to ensure "least discomfort". We're a bunch of sissy types any more. There was a time when folks just sucked it up and toughed out such things, only going to a hospital when it was really necessary. Our pampered society will be it's own worst enemy in this situation. Expect it!

This is one hell of a post. You’re dead certain anyone and everyone diagnosed will expect it? I can tell you that’s 100% false.I know 3 people in CA that have tested positive and they’re self-medicating at home while abiding by the ‘shelter in place’ order from their governor. I’ve been dealing with a respiratory virus for the last 9 days. I can’t get tested here in MN unless I get rushed to the hospital. Regardless of whether I have it or something else, I’m staying quarantined in my house for the foreseeable future. I called the doc and he said “Don’t come here, stay at home, and good luck.” Not everyone is a wuss. That’s a fact.

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This is one hell of a post. You’re dead certain anyone and everyone diagnosed will expect it? I can tell you that’s 100% false.I know 3 people in CA that have tested positive and they’re self-medicating at home while abiding by the ‘shelter in place’ order from their governor. I’ve been dealing with a respiratory virus for the last 9 days. I can’t get tested here in MN unless I get rushed to the hospital. Regardless of whether I have it or something else, I’m staying quarantined in my house for the foreseeable future. I called the doc and he said “Don’t come here, stay at home, and good luck.” Not everyone is a wuss. That’s a fact.

That's why people need to quit taking the confirmed cases and death rates to heart. They're not even close to reality. Some people show very mild symptoms, while others show pronounced symptoms but they don't get tested because they're not dying.

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When this is over I think we need to ditch globalism and particularly have NOTHING to do with China, period.  China always deals with us as an adversary and never an ally. China is always looking to steal technology, govt secrets and anything else to have a military and economic advantage over us. We even depend on them for much of our pharmaceuticals - how STUPID is that!  Best yet, they have large numbers of their people colonizing the USA and Canada, and there are no such "diverse" communities in China. They really are our enemy and we should have nothing to do with them.

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23-24 seasonal snow total: 17.8" (as of 3/9/24)

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At no point did he say nor imply that. Don't blow it out of proportion.

The story I linked talked about the fact that no one put on a ventilator in these hospitals has left alive bc either they are still on it or have died, and his response led me to that implication he didn't even read it. He seemed to imply that everyone is running to the hospital with the slightest symptoms and they're putting everyone on a ventilator because we're all a bunch of wussies and that's why we have no space or nor enough equipment.

Apparently he isn't aware how very hard it is to get a test in this country. In most places they're only testing the very ill or people who have traveled or been in direct contact with someone confirmed with the virus. The hospitals are already low on ventilators and bed space so they're not just letting anyone come in and "demand extreme measures". Hospitals are already stopping elective surgeries, etc. too to have space and enough equipment and nurses/doctors.

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This is one hell of a post. You’re dead certain anyone and everyone diagnosed will expect it? I can tell you that’s 100% false.I know 3 people in CA that have tested positive and they’re self-medicating at home while abiding by the ‘shelter in place’ order from their governor. I’ve been dealing with a respiratory virus for the last 9 days. I can’t get tested here in MN unless I get rushed to the hospital. Regardless of whether I have it or something else, I’m staying quarantined in my house for the foreseeable future. I called the doc and he said “Don’t come here, stay at home, and good luck.” Not everyone is a wuss. That’s a fact.

 

OK, there will always be exceptions to the rule, right? And I'll admit I was purposefully stretching my words a bit due to what I see as a major mis-use of our healthcare system when Peeps go in for routine stuff. I also limited it to "confirmed diagnosis" cases. Sorry you're suffering with anything and hopefully you'll be getting better soon! And certainly Peeps that need a respirator to live should get into hospital ASAP, whatever the cause. Get well there buddy!  ;)

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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When this is over I think we need to ditch globalism and particularly have NOTHING to do with China, period.  China always deals with us as an adversary and never an ally. China is always looking to steal technology, govt secrets and anything else to have a military and economic advantage over us. We even depend on them for much of our pharmaceuticals - how STUPID is that!  Best yet, they have large numbers of their people colonizing the USA and Canada, and there are no such "diverse" communities in China. They really are our enemy and we should have nothing to do with them.

 

Situation is a lot like the former Soviet Union. It's not the average person on the street that is the problem, it's the crooked leadership.   

Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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When this is over I think we need to ditch globalism and particularly have NOTHING to do with China, period.  China always deals with us as an adversary and never an ally. China is always looking to steal technology, govt secrets and anything else to have a military and economic advantage over us. We even depend on them for much of our pharmaceuticals - how STUPID is that!  Best yet, they have large numbers of their people colonizing the USA and Canada, and there are no such "diverse" communities in China. They really are our enemy and we should have nothing to do with them.

 

Maybe we shouldn't have greedy capitalism then.   Also do you know what "colonizing" means?    

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Maybe we shouldn't have greedy capitalism then.   Also do you know what "colonizing" means?    

Straw man. I wasn't making any arguments about capitalism. The point is our economic relationship with China has been largely one-sided in favor of China and hurt American workers in various industries who lost their jobs to China over the years. Do you know what "Made in China" means? 

 

Yes, I do know what colonizing means and it fits the circumstances. Does that word make you uncomfortable? If so, why?

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23-24 seasonal snow total: 17.8" (as of 3/9/24)

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