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Some pics/images from our big blizzard last year on 2/23. Crazy storm!

And that's just the last 4 days here in Oklahoma! Now it feels like early April out there.

Stay strong my friend!  Glad to hear you were able to get through this extraordinary situation.  Health is #1...take care of yourself and I pray for a speedy recovery.  Be well and enjoy the snow that

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I changed the title to something more fitting.  SCREW CHICAGO!  Robbing our storms year after year!

 

Lmao! I was thinking of making this exact thread/title earlier today. Nice work bro.

 

Those that are not from Nebraska, and/or are new to this, welcome! Here is our official theme song for the winter (see at :56) : 

 

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For those that want to get their hopes up again, to probably have those hopes crapped on by the Chicagoans and/or their neighbors to the north.  The GFS has a potential storm or two.  One on the 22ndish, the other near Christmas day.  My prognostication, Dallas gets a white Christmas and we get nada! LOL  Man, being a pessimist is kind of fun!

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lol...I was around last year and don't remember this thread (I know the title was changed).

 

I guess Chicago's only complaint this year is they suffer from an embarrassment of riches... :D

  • 20-21 snowfalls >=3": (Jan 1 - 4.5"); Season total (12.4")
  • 20-21 monthly: Oct (0.6"); Nov (Trace); Dec (Trace); Jan (7.6"); Feb (4.2"); Mar (Trace) as of 3/17
  • 20-21 temps: Oct(-3.2); Nov (+4.8); Dec (+4.5); Jan (+5.1); Feb (-11.3); Mar (+7.5) as of 3/17
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:lol:  :lol:  Sorry, I got a good chuckle this morning when I saw the thread title..now back to looking into the latest NWS headlines  :ph34r:

Winter 2020-21 Snow Total = 35.1"  Largest Storm: 10.2" (2/15-16)        Oct: 0.0 Nov: 1.5 Dec: 3.6 Jan: 10.0 Feb: 20.0 Mar: 0.0 Apr: 0.0

 

Annual avg for mby = 49.7"  Avg for last 10 seasons = 58.4" (118% of normal)

2019-20 = 48.0"  2018-19 = 56.1"  2017-18 = 68.3"   2016-17 = 52"   2015-16 = 57.4"   2014-15 = 55.3"   2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"   2011-12 = 43.7"

 

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

 

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I laughed at this thread's name then just watched our local ABC TV met. who said he now believes that our area of Central Nebraska is down to a 30% chance of light snow or flurries on Sat.  He even chuckled at our lack of snow.  Amazing that I have basically had 1 snow storm in almost 3 years of any significance.  

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Love this thread!  Hoping January can turn the tables.  I used to live in Chicago, which makes the pain more intense when I watch them getting all the snow.   BTW, the year I moved to KC, we had our lowest snowfall on record!  3.5 inches.  Even less on my side of town.  The year I moved to MPLS (1994), they only got 25 inches of snow -- less than 50% of normal.  I lived in Des Moines for a year growing up.  The only full winter I spend there (1986-1987) was a very low snowfall year.  So I may be jinxed. 

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Love this thread!  Hoping January can turn the tables.  I used to live in Chicago, which makes the pain more intense when I watch them getting all the snow.   BTW, the year I moved to KC, we had our lowest snowfall on record!  3.5 inches.  Even less on my side of town.  The year I moved to MPLS (1994), they only got 25 inches of snow -- less than 50% of normal.  I lived in Des Moines for a year growing up.  The only full winter I spend there (1986-1987) was a very low snowfall year.  So I may be jinxed. 

I am liking this thread also.  I can rant all I want about our misses.  We didn't used to get missed this often with storms as I think back.  Let's keep some good conversations going to keep us out of therapy.   :D

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Told Jim Flowers to lower his 40 inch snowfall prediction.  Said it was way too early.  I have no clue what he's seeing but this is as craptastic as it gets.  Cold and bone dry.  Reminding me more and more of 2013/2014.  If we can't get any precip while we have the cold I'm concerned it will come when we get the inevitable warmup and we will get cold rain.

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Told Jim Flowers to lower his 40 inch snowfall prediction.  Said it was way too early.  I have no clue what he's seeing but this is as craptastic as it gets.  Cold and bone dry.  Reminding me more and more of 2013/2014.  If we can't get any precip while we have the cold I'm concerned it will come when we get the inevitable warmup and we will get cold rain.

I think I saw your comments on his facebook page.  I don't think it is too early.  Unless their are multiple large storms, which we rarely ever get, this number will probably be closer to 30 inches.  I always say that every day that goes by that has the cold air is one day closer to spring when we have the moisture but lack the cold air.  I am sensing a great moisture maker at 35 degrees down the road.  

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 Not sure if this makes KC/Nebby folks feel any better or worse but I thought it was pertinent to the convo. Skilling today address the # of 9 inch or greater storms for Chicago.

 

Dear Tom,
I recall hearing that Chicago gets a nine-inch or greater snowfall on average once every two years. My thinking is that in the past 10 years we have had 15 or 20 such events, or three to four times the normal rate. Am I correct?
— Carl Wagner

Dear Carl,
Not quite. It’s true that on average Chicago experiences a nine-inch or greater snowfall every two years, and that works out to five such snowstorms in an average 10-year period. But in the most recent 10-year period (the snow seasons of  2006-07 through 2015-16) the city has had eight snowstorms of at least nine inches. This is based on snowfall  s measured officially at  O’Hare International Airport. At Midway Airport, there have been 10 snows of nine inches or greater in the same 10-year period. The greatest number of nine-inch-plus snowstorms in   any 10-year period is 10 in 1893-94 to 1902-03 and 1969-70 to 1978-79.

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 Not sure if this makes KC/Nebby folks feel any better or worse but I thought it was pertinent to the convo. Skilling today address the # of 9 inch or greater storms for Chicago.

 

Dear Tom,

I recall hearing that Chicago gets a nine-inch or greater snowfall on average once every two years. My thinking is that in the past 10 years we have had 15 or 20 such events, or three to four times the normal rate. Am I correct?

— Carl Wagner

Dear Carl,

Not quite. It’s true that on average Chicago experiences a nine-inch or greater snowfall every two years, and that works out to five such snowstorms in an average 10-year period. But in the most recent 10-year period (the snow seasons of  2006-07 through 2015-16) the city has had eight snowstorms of at least nine inches. This is based on snowfall  s measured officially at  O’Hare International Airport. At Midway Airport, there have been 10 snows of nine inches or greater in the same 10-year period. The greatest number of nine-inch-plus snowstorms in   any 10-year period is 10 in 1893-94 to 1902-03 and 1969-70 to 1978-79.

I think I read somewhere that Omaha averages a 6" snowstorm once every 2 or 3 years is it. I always hate to point this out when we are complaining about never getting a big snowstorm when northeast of here does, but that's really quite normal climatologically speaking and isn't a "fair" comparison. We're really comparing 2 relatively different winter climates for precip.

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I think I read somewhere that Omaha averages a 6" snowstorm once every 2 or 3 years is it. I always hate to point this out when we are complaining about never getting a big snowstorm when northeast of here does, but that's really quite normal climatologically speaking and isn't a "fair" comparison. We're really comparing 2 relatively different winter climates for precip.

I hear what you are saying.  We are not even getting 6 inch snows or less that used to happen with more frequency.  There are some years I use my snowblower once or twice during winter due to even a marginal snow.  I don't compare certain places close to the ocean or great lakes due to the moisture source.  

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I hear what you are saying.  We are not even getting 6 inch snows or less that used to happen with more frequency.  There are some years I use my snowblower once or twice during winter due to even a marginal snow.  I don't compare certain places close to the ocean or great lakes due to the moisture source.  

It would be interesting to see how the average snowfall has changed over the years as a new year's total gets included in with the averages. I took some time to look up Omaha's history from this site: http://weather-warehouse.com/WeatherHistory/PastWeatherData_OmahaEppleyAirfield_Omaha_NE_January.html

It was a little cumbersome, but adding things up for each year I ran some recent numbers back to 1999.

From 99-06 we averaged about 29" of snow.

Since 2007, we've averaged 28.5" of snow per year which is actually a bit above the historical number of 26" or so. In those 9 years we've had 5 years above the 26" climate average and 4 years below.

In 2006 we only had 13.2" of snow all year, but strangely 9.4" of that fell in March. Also looking at history, January and February have been our biggest months time and time again except for that heavenly month of December '09 when we had over 24". So I guess, there's still hope that there's going to be plenty of chances even if it never seems that way!

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It would be interesting to see how the average snowfall has changed over the years as a new year's total gets included in with the averages. I took some time to look up Omaha's history from this site: http://weather-warehouse.com/WeatherHistory/PastWeatherData_OmahaEppleyAirfield_Omaha_NE_January.html

It was a little cumbersome, but adding things up for each year I ran some recent numbers back to 1999.

From 99-06 we averaged about 29" of snow.

Since 2007, we've averaged 28.5" of snow per year which is actually a bit above the historical number of 26" or so. In those 9 years we've had 5 years above the 26" climate average and 4 years below.

In 2006 we only had 13.2" of snow all year, but strangely 9.4" of that fell in March. Also looking at history, January and February have been our biggest months time and time again except for that heavenly month of December '09 when we had over 24". So I guess, there's still hope that there's going to be plenty of chances even if it never seems that way!

Well said and good research! In my experience, we have only seen two really crazy Decembers, those being 2009 and 2000. Other than that, your right we see our biggest storms later in the year. Which, ya it sucks but there still is a lot of potential. Another note, last year I finished the season above normal with snow with 36". Pretty surprising considering we really only had one major snowstorm, which dropped over half that total during a super El Nino. We will get our snow, the waiting just sucks! 

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Hey posting in here tonight because I am currently in Bartlesville, OK. I went to college out here and lived for awhile. My kids live here so I visit often. I am pretty excited about the arctic front on the way. We don't have this kind of extremes up in Oregon. We go from 35 and rain to 31 and snow over the course of 8 hours. lol

Snowfall                                  Precip

2020-21: 12.0"                        2020-21: 52.02"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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Hey posting in here tonight because I am currently in Bartlesville, OK. I went to college out here and lived for awhile. My kids live here so I visit often. I am pretty excited about the arctic front on the way. We don't have this kind of extremes up in Oregon. We go from 35 and rain to 31 and snow over the course of 8 hours. lol

Hope you enjoy your visit man. Some pretty crazy temperature drops going on right now.

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Everybody ready for our 1 inch of snow followed by above average temperatures? Wow, what a great winter so far. Exactly as advertised. Glad the people hyping it up for the Plains were right![/quote

 

Every year you go through the same process of blaming everyone for not getting monster snows. I'm right there with you that we all want them

, but reality is that we are in a region of nickel and dimers and an occasional "decent" storm. When you got slammed last year with 15"-17" storm I don't recall you getting blamed for that storm hitting mainly central Nebraska. My advice is "if you can't beat them, join em aka move to an area closer to the GL. We all know nebraska is not what it used to be back in the day regarding winter weather, those are just the cold hard facts.

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Everybody ready for our 1 inch of snow followed by above average temperatures? Wow, what a great winter so far. Exactly as advertised. Glad the people hyping it up for the Plains were right![/quote

 

Every year you go through the same process of blaming everyone for not getting monster snows. I'm right there with you that we all want them

, but reality is that we are in a region of nickel and dimers and an occasional "decent" storm. When you got slammed last year with 15"-17" storm I don't recall you getting blamed for that storm hitting mainly central Nebraska. My advice is "if you can't beat them, join em aka move to an area closer to the GL. We all know nebraska is not what it used to be back in the day regarding winter weather, those are just the cold hard facts.

 

Just frustrated as I'm sure you are as well.  Not blaming anyone.

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You guys are correct, pretty much. I let my semi recent past sort of cloud my judgement. Call it having too good of a depth of memory but it's hard to erase 2008-09 (super ice storm) 09-10 (20"+ winter with top 5 cold throughout) 10-11 (31" winter, epic cold) and then 2013-14 and 2014-15 both with a good spread of winter events and cold although totals were normalish or slightly lackluster. When you're sitting 60 miles north of i-35 and you get that many good winters in less than a decade, I guess you sort of take for granted that snow is not always a given at my latitude. I'm glad last winter happened to help remind me to not take it for granted. I'm just glad it looks like true winter outside tonight and it's only December 18th.

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You guys are correct, pretty much. I let my semi recent past sort of cloud my judgement. Call it having too good of a depth of memory but it's hard to erase 2008-09 (super ice storm) 09-10 (20"+ winter with top 5 cold throughout) 10-11 (31" winter, epic cold) and then 2013-14 and 2014-15 both with a good spread of winter events and cold although totals were normalish or slightly lackluster. When you're sitting 60 miles north of i-35 and you get that many good winters in less than a decade, I guess you sort of take for granted that snow is not always a given at my latitude. I'm glad last winter happened to help remind me to not take it for granted. I'm just glad it looks like true winter outside tonight and it's only December 18th.

Did you end up getting any snow from this last system? I think I saw you said there was a chance forecasted.

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Did you end up getting any snow from this last system? I think I saw you said there was a chance forecasted.

I actually did! Got a good solid glaze first to mess the roads up and then it snowed about a 1/2 inch. Lol. Terrible that I was excited about it but it was nice to see everything turn white again after last year. The pattern after this warm up is where my attention has been for awhile though. I considered any snow in this month a bonus for me.

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You guys are correct, pretty much. I let my semi recent past sort of cloud my judgement. Call it having too good of a depth of memory but it's hard to erase 2008-09 (super ice storm) 09-10 (20"+ winter with top 5 cold throughout) 10-11 (31" winter, epic cold) and then 2013-14 and 2014-15 both with a good spread of winter events and cold although totals were normalish or slightly lackluster. When you're sitting 60 miles north of i-35 and you get that many good winters in less than a decade, I guess you sort of take for granted that snow is not always a given at my latitude. I'm glad last winter happened to help remind me to not take it for granted. I'm just glad it looks like true winter outside tonight and it's only December 18th.

Just out of curiosity, how do you live north of I-35? I've driven the stretch through OK many times and it all pretty much runs north-south. You have me perplexed.

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Just out of curiosity, how do you live north of I-35? I've driven the stretch through OK many times and it all pretty much runs north-south. You have me perplexed.

Lol. I meant i-40. Oops. I very seldom get those two confused but it happens. Haha. I'd have to be in Canada to be north of i-35.
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Lol. I meant i-40. Oops. I very seldom get those two confused but it happens. Haha. I'd have to be in Canada to be north of i-35.

 

For a winter lover like yourself, that's actually not a bad plan -  ;)

Winter 2020-21 Snow Total = 35.1"  Largest Storm: 10.2" (2/15-16)        Oct: 0.0 Nov: 1.5 Dec: 3.6 Jan: 10.0 Feb: 20.0 Mar: 0.0 Apr: 0.0

 

Annual avg for mby = 49.7"  Avg for last 10 seasons = 58.4" (118% of normal)

2019-20 = 48.0"  2018-19 = 56.1"  2017-18 = 68.3"   2016-17 = 52"   2015-16 = 57.4"   2014-15 = 55.3"   2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"   2011-12 = 43.7"

 

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

 

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Lol. I meant i-40. Oops. I very seldom get those two confused but it happens. Haha. I'd have to be in Canada to be north of i-35.

Ah.  Makes sense.  I seriously have driven I-35 the entire way through Oklahoma probably 100 times.  Extended family is in Dallas, and I've lived in KC, Des Moines and the Twin Cities. Lots of family trips along I-35.   I know that road a little too well.

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Ah. Makes sense. I seriously have driven I-35 the entire way through Oklahoma probably 100 times. Extended family is in Dallas, and I've lived in KC, Des Moines and the Twin Cities. Lots of family trips along I-35. I know that road a little too well.

Lol. I've lived in every town on i-35 from Paoli to south Moore. Havent lived out that way in many years though. I lived in one of the houses once that got destroyed in the tornado just east of the highway a couple seasons back.

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