Minny_Weather Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 My parents up in Yankton had like 47” last winter when we had 11”. Now they’re going to get as much from this storm as we’ve had the last 1.5 winters combined. Amazing how 100 miles can make that big of a difference. And it's funny because we finished with 7.5" here, 0.3" above the record low, whereas Norfolk, 2.5 hours North of here, finished well above average. Thus why I have a grudge against them. Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstorm83 Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Fucc being in Lincoln' EDIT: just looked at 6z gfs Quote Snowfall in Lincoln, NE: 2017-18: 21.4" 2018-19: 55.5" 2019-20: 17.6" 2020-21: 49.4" 2021-22: 5.1" Average: 26" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 God this is awful. Watching the Blizzard Warning for 3 counties away tick away on my TV. If I wasn't saving up for a trip in 2019, I'd drive up to Norfolk and get a hotel there for tonight. Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 I think we can change the thread title. People from Chicago can complain. This Winter is absolutely comical for everyone. 1 Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 'cept here on the fringes of Paradise..formerly known as "Motown" Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 This about sums the winter for many on here. Storms bullseye in MBY only to fall apart right before our eyes.. 1 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 ^^^ Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 Remember when Lincoln/Omaha wasn't missed by everything? No? Maybe I should ask my great grandparents. Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlcater Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 Am I correct in that we can all agree that MI hasn't had enough snow this season? They could really use this storm after the long boring winter they've had. Quote 2021-22 Snowfall: (Hiawatha) TOTAL: 10.2" (12/28: 3.0") (12/29: 0.8") (1/1: 6.4") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabitha Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 Am I correct in that we can all agree that MI hasn't had enough snow this season? They could really use this storm after the long boring winter they've had. The Kardashians also need another 10 million in their bank account; if you can swing it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabitha Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 I'm only 26.7" behind Jaster; I think I should have the deficit eradicated by about 2040. Assuming his totals do not increase in that same coming interval... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabitha Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 Am I correct in that we can all agree that MI hasn't had enough snow this season? They could really use this storm after the long boring winter they've had. All snow in Michigan is Fake Effect Snow; so it doesn't really count in the Grand Scheme of Things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstorm83 Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 Someone console me by telling me its just snow and not that important 1 Quote Snowfall in Lincoln, NE: 2017-18: 21.4" 2018-19: 55.5" 2019-20: 17.6" 2020-21: 49.4" 2021-22: 5.1" Average: 26" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabitha Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 Someone console me by telling me its just snow and not that important Its snow and its important. Very. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabel23 Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 Someone console me by telling me its just snow and not that importantI feel for you guys that haven't seen s**t this year; and the past couple of years to boot. I feel spoiled as I have seen 25" of snow to date, and I feel really bad saying that. Believe you me we all will get our winters sooner rather than later. On a positive note, I think its safe to say that the University of Nebraska has finally found a foothold in the big 10 moving forward. Both the woman's and men's basketball teams stand a great chance at making the big dance; and SCOTT FROST absolutely killed it today!!!!! The recruiting class he put together to go a long with the walk-ons he is bringing in was a great start to his tenure. Oh yeah, and we sold out the spring game, which is a flipping practice, in 90 minutes!!!! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 We had fairly good Winters when Scott Frost was here as a player. Maybe he'll bring the same stuff as a coach. 1 Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabitha Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 I think I shall take a nap; as these never-ending unpleasant outcomes; compounded like interest for the last three months, have taken a bit of a psychological & emotional toll. I get wearyAnd sick of tryin'I'm tired of livin'And scared of dyin'But Ole Man RiverHe just keeps rollin' along...___Jerome Kern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 All snow in Michigan is Fake Effect Snow; so it doesn't really count in the Grand Scheme of Things. Uhmm...NO Only 13.8% of my now nearly 4 feet of snow has been "Fake Effect Fluff", a bit below the traditional 20% avg Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 Uhmm...NO Only 13.8% of my now nearly 4 feet of snow has been "Fake Effect Fluff", a bit below the traditional 20% avg Jaster......have you eva heard of "Fake Snow b4?! Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 Jaster......have you eva heard of "Fake Snow b4?! Yeah, some peeps like to call it that, but I say.. Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover76 Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 what a depressing winter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabitha Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 Uhmm...NO Only 13.8% of my now nearly 4 feet of snow has been "Fake Effect Fluff", a bit below the traditional 20% avg I was just teasing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 I was just teasing... Figured as much, but hey, gave me a chance to look into the details of that little stat. Last season was almost double the avg via LES, this year so far is trying to balance that out.. Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 Yeah, some peeps like to call it that, but I say.. :lol: Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabitha Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 With my 1/2 inch of snow today; I have 17.7" on the season...the exact amount Central Park NYC measured in the Blizzard of 1978...exactly 40 years ago yesterday. Well we're movin' on upTo the east sideTo a deluxe apartment in the sky.We finally got a piece of the pie.Fish don't fry in the kitchen;Beans don't burn on the grill.Took a whole lotta tryin'Just to get up that hill. Now we're up in the big leaguesGettin' our turn at bat.As long as we live, it's you and me babyThere ain't nothin wrong with that.___The Jeffersons 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 All snow in Michigan is Fake Effect Snow; so it doesn't really count in the Grand Scheme of Things. Even NWS chimes in on this.. "Between 9 PM Thursday and midnight Friday night, snow will pile up in much of central and southern Lower Michigan. 6 to 12 inch totals are likely in southern Michigan including the I-94 corridor. This will be a heavier, more dense snowpack as opposed to fluffy lake-effect snow. Shoveling will be more difficult. Main roads will become sloppy and slick. Cars may become stuck on unplowed side roads." Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabitha Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 Even NWS chimes in on this.. "Between 9 PM Thursday and midnight Friday night, snow will pile up in much of central and southern Lower Michigan. 6 to 12 inch totals are likely in southern Michigan including the I-94 corridor. This will be a heavier, more dense snowpack as opposed to fluffy lake-effect snow. Shoveling will be more difficult. Main roads will become sloppy and slick. Cars may become stuck on unplowed side roads." I would take snow from the Dead Sea; were it available... Its all good; and it all counts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabitha Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 With every town getting a big snowstorm except me; I am reminded of that old saying: "Always a bridesmaid; never a bride." But truth be told; I'm not even the hat check girl... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabitha Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 I'm in the midst of a 5 hour (and still going!) intermission here; after the Unforgettable 1/2 inch that fell, this AM. I hope The Main Feature is better than the matinee! The exasperating thing about here is; of course the topography...where you go 20 miles from here and the annual average snowfall doubles (at least). Thus watching radar returns sit in one place w/o moving for 10 hours straight; and when they finally do move over your area; they fizzle; is intensely unpleasant. I call it Punishment. It is a process that has repeated time w/o number since November (and probably since the end of the Ice Age)...but it remains confounding nonetheless; simply because it is so persistent & pervasive. Say what you will for Eastern Nebraska; no such problem exists there. You don't go 20 miles from Omaha and watch the annual snowfall double from 30 to 60 inches. The thing of it is; you would think the area to my north was a plateau 6000 feet higher than where I am; while it really is only a bit higher. But this place is seemingly perfectly placed to profit from the rain shadow effect; to an extent that is really amazing (and not in a good way!) to observe. 22 separate measurable snowfalls this winter to date have yielded just 17.7" of snow; clearly demonstrating that most storm systems cannot compete with the unfavorable and dryness inducing terrain. You would likely need a very well organized mid latitude cyclone with strong upper air support to get a 6 inch or greater single snowfall here; and this is almost unheard of in December or January...becoming a little more likely as we move towards late February & March as the atmosphere moistens and temperatures rise. The record shows some very impressive snow events (even here) in March, April, and even May. There is a definite parallel with the snow pattern at Denver. Thus my rather exasperated take on this iniquity & inequity... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabitha Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 Studying the historical record, there was, in fact a snowstorm in this area about 20 odd years ago that put down 84 inches of snow in Lead and I believe zero inches where I am at...30 miles distant; and it wasn't even a rain / snow thing. That should tell you (and should have told me) all one would need to ever know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabitha Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 I think some of my anger towards this state of affairs (and there was quite a bit; as I very much enjoy the snow) has diminished just a bit in the last couple of weeks; as I now understand that railing against it is akin to trying to stop the wind; and consequently the only possible palliative is for me to re-locate over the summer; as that is when my one year lease is up. Perhaps the only Silver Lining was that the Bad Snow Year afforded me no false illusions; as a Good Snow Year would have placed me under the misapprehension that this was not Snow Hell...and I would have taken a multi-year deal; or even worse, attempted to buy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabitha Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 The exasperating thing about here is; of course the topography...where you go 20 miles from here and the annual average snowfall doubles (at least). Thus watching radar returns sit in one place w/o moving for 10 hours straight; and when they finally do move over your area; they fizzle; is intensely unpleasant. I call it Punishment. It is a process that has repeated time w/o number since November (and probably since the end of the Ice Age)...but it remains confounding nonetheless; simply because it is so persistent & pervasive. Say what you will for Eastern Nebraska; no such problem exists there. You don't go 20 miles from Omaha and watch the annual snowfall double from 30 to 60 inches. I'll offer an analogy. Let us say you were living in Omaha; and every 4 or 5 days for three months running, the town 10 miles to your northwest picks up 5 inches; 6 inches; 3 inches; 2 inches, 4 inches...and it goes on & on w/o end...while Omaha at best, sees broken clouds. This has been the never-ending dynamic here since November; and it is quite fraying upon one's nerves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBadgersW Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 You may not get much snow, but that area is beautiful. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabitha Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 You may not get much snow, but that area is beautiful. Thnxs...I'm not much of a photographer...I did the best I could. If I could get some decent snow here it would be very pretty. Saying there are 2 inches on the ground at present might be generous...lol. I think there is sleet or freezing rain falling now; as that warm front with the forties to my west; though it never got here (and apparently never will) is throwing enough warm air up and over the cold dome here; melting any snow aloft and causing the aforementioned wintery mix. It is still in the mid-teens at the surface here; perhaps the day's only saving grace. It should go back to snow not too long from now...I hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEJeremy Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 I was able to take a little photo of Snow Hell a few minutes ago from my deck off my little kitchen:SO JEALOUS! I absolutely love the Hills! BTW how far away were you from that big fire the Hills had in the fall sometime last year? Where do you live/what town are you closest to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabitha Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 SO JEALOUS! I absolutely love the Hills! BTW how far away were you from that big fire the Hills had in the fall sometime last year? Where do you live/what town are you closest to? Being the internet; I don't want to be too specific. Lets just say on the Eastern Slopes of the Black Hills. The fire was towards Custer (I think)...not sure. There have been no fires in this area since I have been here; thankfully. A nice wet spring will help maintain that reality. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted February 9, 2018 Report Share Posted February 9, 2018 This Winter is pathetic compared to average. When compared to last year, it's legendary and record-breaking. Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlcater Posted February 9, 2018 Report Share Posted February 9, 2018 This is honest to God one of the worst events in recent memory. Looks entirely possible that the 3 inches I got in the heavy band are the only snow that I see. It's seriously no coincidence at this point that CR/IC always gets screwed. This system has done it, I'm over winter—bring on spring. Actually winter can never come back, I'm sick and tired of all the near misses and systems that hit CR for days only to run to hwy 20 at the last second. 1 Quote 2021-22 Snowfall: (Hiawatha) TOTAL: 10.2" (12/28: 3.0") (12/29: 0.8") (1/1: 6.4") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted February 9, 2018 Report Share Posted February 9, 2018 This is honest to God one of the worst events in recent memory. Looks entirely possible that the 3 inches I got in the heavy band are the only snow that I see. It's seriously no coincidence at this point that CR/IC always gets screwed. This system has done it, I'm over winter—bring on spring. Actually winter can never come back, I'm sick and tired of all the near misses and systems that hit CR for days only to run to hwy 20 at the last second.Think on the bright side. The snow might make Waterloo look good for once! Lol jk, it will always be a sh*thole. Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlcater Posted February 9, 2018 Report Share Posted February 9, 2018 Think on the bright side. The snow might make Waterloo look good for once! Lol jk, it will always be a sh*thole.It's not a one off either. This seriously always happens, almost without fail. It's evident on the Waterloo snowfall totals vs the Cedar Rapids totals for the past 3 seasons. Waterloo to us is as Norfolk is to you. 1 Quote 2021-22 Snowfall: (Hiawatha) TOTAL: 10.2" (12/28: 3.0") (12/29: 0.8") (1/1: 6.4") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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