January 2016 in the PNW

[Dave]

Population is ~135,000, with an elevation averaging 430ft.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene,_Oregon

Not to nitpick, but your link says 160k, not 135k.  The metro area is over 250k.  That being said, we're obviously not a major city.

[Jesse]

Sounds like a muscle tone issue. You should go back east and help shovel snow. Great workout...

Kind of wish I could. My grandpa could probably use the help. He lives in southeast PA.

[Jesse]

52 at PDX!

 

{insert "taste of spring" anecdote here}

[MossMan]

52 at PDX!

 

{insert "taste of spring" anecdote here}

Bulbs! Mowing! Weedeating! Jetsking!

Hopefully it snows next week, I don't want to mow just yet.

[Deweydog]

52 at PDX!

 

{insert "taste of spring" anecdote here}

Six in a row!

 

Let's go for 10! Come on, get into it!

[Jesse]

Six in a row!

 

Let's go for 10! Come on, get into it!

Probably a done deal.

 

Looking forward to rooting for stretches of sub-80 highs with you in late July.

[TT-SEA]

Felt like spring doing yardwork yesterday...

 

 

[Deweydog]

Probably a done deal.

 

Looking forward to rooting for stretches of sub-80 highs with you in late July.

Mmmmkay...

 

Best o' luck getting to 10!

[Phil]

So what's your point? Still it is the second largest city in Oregon.

I don't think comparing Eugene, OR at 430ft, to cities like Baltimore/New York, which sit at sea level (and are heavily urbanized) makes sense, if you're looking for compare regional snowfalls. Actually, New York/LGA sits much closer to the ocean than Portland/PDX.

 

Eugene, OR is roughly analogous to a slew of suburban cities around here, though, which could be used for a more appropriate comparison. That was my point.

[ShawniganLake]

Felt like spring doing yardwork yesterday...

 

 

Some new hellebores?

 

Is that plastic garden edging behind them? Pull that out. Come on Tim, your landscaping is better than that.

[TT-SEA]

Some new hellebores?

 

Is that plastic garden edging behind them? Pull that s**t out. Come on Tim, your landscaping is better than that.

 

 

It has popped out as the walkway has shifted over time.    

[Jesse]

Mmmmkay...

 

Best o' luck getting to 10!

That's right you don't do cold, I forgot.

 

#warmenthusiastforever

 

#coldanomsareforliberals

[Tyler Mode]

57 right now. Average first 60 in Vancouver over the last 20 years is Feb. 26th.

[Phil]

70 hours of snowfall. Imagine how deep the snow would have been out east, if the snow would have persisted another 36 hours.

I think 2009-10 and 2014-15 answered that question already. The answer is: major headaches.

 

In 2010, from January 29th to February 10th, several lowland cities in MD (including Elkridge and Manchester) observed between 6-7 feet of snow. Basically had nowhere to put the snow so farmers were paid to allow snow storage on portions of their land.

 

In 2015, areas in coastal New England observed over 90" of snow in 20 days. Same scenario, essentially.

[Deweydog]

That's right you don't do cold, I forgot.

 

#warmenthusiastforever

 

#coldanomsareforliberals

Tough lessons...

 

Liberals want stuff, common sense independents actually make it happen.

 

#rootingforweathermatters

[HighlandExperience]

I don't think comparing Eugene, OR at 430ft, to cities like Baltimore/New York, which sit at sea level (and are heavily urbanized) makes sense, if you're looking for compare regional snowfalls. Actually, New York/LGA sits much closer to the ocean than Portland/PDX.

 

Eugene, OR is roughly analogous to a slew of suburban cities around here, though, which could be used for a more appropriate comparison. That was my point.

In a similar vein.

 

I don't think comparing Seattle, Vancouver BC, and Portland to the east coast makes sense. Totally different topography with close proximity to mountains.

 

Apples and Oranges.

[Phil]

In a similar vein.

 

I don't think comparing Seattle, Vancouver BC, and Portland to the east coast makes sense. Totally different topography with close proximity to mountains.

 

Apples and Oranges.

At that point, though, you're tossing away the factors that define climate. All I'm doing is accounting for elevation and population/urbanization. These are controllable variables.

 

For example, you can try to imagine how your climate would behave without the Cascades present, but it's pure imagination.

[Timmy]

Meanwhile the 18z gfs is even cooler for the weekend and early next week than the 12z

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Yeah I like the 18z. 

[Timmy]

And then some sort of transition towards the middle of the week. Looks somewhat similar to what models were showing for late December early on.

[Dave]

Based on the 18z, I might be able to scrape off enough snow off my car to make a single snowball.  I'll probably pee on it though because i love yellow snowcones.

 

http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2016012518/gfs_mslp_pcpn_frzn_nwus_26.png

[stuffradio]

At that point, though, you're tossing away the factors that define climate. All I'm doing is accounting for elevation and population/urbanization. These are controllable variables.

 

For example, you can try to imagine how your climate would behave without the Cascades present, but it's pure imagination.

Vancouver, BC is literally right at the Pacific ocean. You can't get any more beside the ocean unless you put buildings in the ocean.

[TT-SEA]

These posts are becoming frequent in our WA gardening group on facebook from people all over the western lowlands.    Signs of spring all around now with the warmer weather.

 

http://s10.postimg.org/weond30u1/Untitled.jpg

[Jesse]

Can somebody make him stop?

 

This isn't a gardening forum and it serves no purpose other than trolling.

 

There are probably lots of non-native plants you can buy at Costco that bloom in late January every year if it isn't snowing. We live in a mild winter climate for our latitude. Is this news?

[stuffradio]

Can somebody make him stop?

Stooooooop

[TT-SEA]

55 at SEA and PDX today... very nice day.     These types of days in the winter make the rainy periods easier to get through.

 

In the fall we talk about signs of fall and changing leaves... and in the spring we talk about flowering stuff.     Part of being fascinated with weather also includes all the other changes in nature... at least for me.     

[stuffradio]

18Z meteograms shows 2" of snow at hour 240. That would pretty much be more snow than all of November and December combined for me! After I get 2" of snow, Spring can spring.

[Deweydog]

If I were an idiot I would have walked outside this afternoon and thought it was spring!

[TT-SEA]

18Z meteograms shows 2" of snow at hour 240. That would pretty much be more snow than all of November and December combined for me! After I get 2" of snow, Spring can spring.

 

Sometimes its more reliable for producing snow.   Possibly because of more dynamics?   

[Jesse]

It's late January. I think I'm going to try to grow a mango plant this summer, then post of bunch of pictures of it dying in late July because our summer climate is too cool overall to sustain a tropical plant. Then I will claim that this is a sign of fall.

[stuffradio]

It's late January. I think I'm going to try to grow a mango plant this summer, then post of bunch of pictures of it dying in late July because our summer climate is too cool overall to sustain a tropical plant. Then I will claim that this is a sign of fall.

Monster! What did that tropical plant do to you!?

[TT-SEA]

We have many hellebores blooming and they are native.

Not fair to talk about all the signs of fall including awesome displays from non-native trees but then whine about signs of spring. I enjoy all of it.

 

There is lots of talk on here in the fall about how the weather will effect the fall colors.    And when its cool there are always posts about how it will really bring out the fall color... and then I post lots of pictures of that as well.   

[Dave]

It's late January. I think I'm going to try to grow a mango plant this summer, then post of bunch of pictures of it dying in late July because our summer climate is too cool overall to sustain a tropical plant. Then I will claim that this is a sign of fall.

There are a couple of dozen palm trees in Eugene.  Most of them look pretty sickly though.  A couple of decent ones exist however.

[Jesse]

The trolling and gardening subforum is really coming along!

[HighlandExperience]

There are a couple of dozen palm trees in Eugene. Most of them look pretty sickly though. A couple of decent ones exist however.

You can grow hardy palms in Switzerland and parts of southern Norway. So gross.

[TT-SEA]

They grow fine here... not what I choose to plant but they are attractive in the right setting.        

 

http://www.palmsnorthwest.com/

 

http://s7.postimg.org/v83qygjej/palm.jpg

[SilverFallsAndrew]

I have 4 little seedlings that are going to like this spring weather quite a bit...

[MossMan]

Nice trends with the models today, hopefully the temps can cool a little more and the moisture can become a little more pronounced with this upcoming cool/cold snap!

[TT-SEA]

Nice trends with the models today, hopefully the temps can cool a little more and the moisture can become a little more pronounced with this upcoming cool/cold snap!

ECMWF gives you some c-zone snow this weekend.

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

Spent some time over at the cabin last weekend. The warming over the weekend never got there. Amazing how this area holds onto the cold. No spring there anytime soon thank god.