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After today, the 12z EPS only has 3 days above 80°F through the next 2 weeks at SEA, and 2 of those are borderline.

It’s almost over. 🙏 

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Just now, Mr Marine Layer said:

What's the night shift?

We stay up getting smashed and watching the overnight GFS spit out a regional snow and Arctic event.

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Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25”
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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18 minutes ago, Omegaraptor said:

I drove to Silver Falls in March 2021 going through Silverton and Mt Angel. Nearly every oak tree was damaged or missing limbs.

My Dad's property in the aftermath of the ice storm... He lives between Silverton and Mt. Angel. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
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17 minutes ago, Omegaraptor said:

I drove to Silver Falls in March 2021 going through Silverton and Mt Angel. Nearly every oak tree was damaged or missing limbs.

From Feb, 2021.

It was a shitt winter here, bottom line. Last winter was much better.

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Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25”
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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7 minutes ago, Doiinko said:

Hard to believe that this is Eugene!image.png.ec6acd7b73f4619262d2458781249b41.png

The dynamics in play with that one had to be astounding.

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Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25”
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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10 minutes ago, Phil said:

After today, the 12z EPS only has 3 days above 80°F through the next 2 weeks at SEA, and 2 of those are borderline.

It’s almost over. 🙏 

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SEA already has had 10 days this month below 80.   👍

**REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED**

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1 minute ago, TigerWoodsLibido said:

From Feb, 2021.

It was a shitt winter here, bottom line. Last winter was much better.

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You can even see the warm nose up here. Which honestly I was okay with. We still had about 1/2" of ice, but it did not cause near as much damage as places below 1000' had. 

The Sunday after the ice storm we went down to my in-laws in Eugene to shower, as we had the generator, but switch was not installed until last summer, so we still could not run our well, and then climbed Mt. Pisgah on a 50 degree afternoon. Our dog also got bit by a tick. :(

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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On day 10 of no power the national guard came by to make sure we were still alive. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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19 minutes ago, Phil said:

The GFS had SEA at 95°F today. :lol:

What a joke.

Going to be close to that out here... in the low 90s.   The GFS output for SEA has been generally great all summer when applied to the EPSL where its consistently been running 5-7 degrees warmer.    

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1 hour ago, TacomaWx said:

Looking forward to being down in that area on September 11th-13th. Hopefully it’s not too Smokey thank you for being down there helping fight the fires. 

Yeah, no smoke.  Fire camp is in Diamond Lake and the fires being managed have basically minimal smokes remaining if any on some.   Lots of repair work to do still.

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10 minutes ago, TigerWoodsLibido said:

From Feb, 2021.

It was a shitt winter here, bottom line. Last winter was much better.

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Up here we got something like five inches of snow and one inch of… frozen stuff. Was a really fun event but was really the only remotely interesting event of the entire winter. Thankfully that SSW happened, would have almost certainly been a dud otherwise.

First half of January 2021 was pretty notable as far as winter blowtorches go. PDX was straight up warmer than nearly all of Northern California for half the month lol. Not exactly a typical Niña/+QBO

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12 minutes ago, Omegaraptor said:

Up here we got something like five inches of snow and one inch of… frozen stuff. Was a really fun event but was really the only remotely interesting event of the entire winter. Thankfully that SSW happened, would have almost certainly been a dud otherwise.

First half of January 2021 was pretty notable as far as winter blowtorches go. PDX was straight up warmer than nearly all of Northern California for half the month lol. Not exactly a typical Niña/+QBO

We had some decent snow in late January, but I was gone when it happened. Only real snow event I experienced that winter was about 3" in early February. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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4 minutes ago, Omegaraptor said:

Up here we got something like five inches of snow and one inch of… frozen stuff. Was a really fun event but was really the only remotely interesting event of the entire winter. Thankfully that SSW happened, would have almost certainly been a dud otherwise.

First half of January 2021 was pretty notable as far as winter blowtorches go. PDX was straight up warmer than nearly all of Northern California for half the month lol. Not exactly a typical Niña/+QBO

Yeah Feb 2021 had around 4.5" of snow here and a mix of sleet and ZR most of the time.

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2 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

We had some decent snow in late January, but I was gone when it happened. Only real snow event I experienced that winter was about 3" in early February. 

I think I had a bit of snow on the grass and a lot in the air in late January 2021. I had some snow in early January 2020 though that stuck for a decent bit before turning to graupel.

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42 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Looks like PDX furnished the cold air but was on the dry side of the action in 1969. The mega-dumps of snow require a mix of cold and moisture, and often have enough marine influence that it is not super-cold where they happen.

Seems like the cold air and moisture met up over Tahoe that winter! 

https://www.sierrasun.com/news/1969-tahoes-record-setting-winter/

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Up to 91 in North Bend... seeing some mid 90s around the EPSL now.    

The GFS should change its label on the SEA output to say "EPSL" since we have actually experienced pretty much all of the warm temps that the GFS has been showing for SEA this summer.

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25 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Going to be close to that out here... in the low 90s.   The GFS output for SEA has been generally great all summer when applied to the EPSL where its consistently been running 5-7 degrees warmer.    

It’s been too warm all summer.

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28 minutes ago, TigerWoodsLibido said:

From Feb, 2021.

It was a shitt winter here, bottom line. Last winter was much better.

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That and this April have been some of the most devastating events to local foliage in my neighborhood that I can remember. Still saw broken limbs and trees from the April event in specific months afterwards. 

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Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014):

 

(1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.

(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches

(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches

(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches

(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches

 

Honourable Mentions: December 7th, 2018, February 9th, 2019.

 

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1 minute ago, Requiem said:

That and this April have been some of the most devastating events to local foliage in my neighborhood that I can remember. Still saw broken limbs and trees from the April event in specific months afterwards. 

I remember most of my snow melted by midday on April 11th but I could see the snow covered west hills clearly for a few days which was nice.

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3 minutes ago, Requiem said:

That and this April have been some of the most devastating events to local foliage in my neighborhood that I can remember. Still saw broken limbs and trees from the April event in specific months afterwards. 

Worth noting that (though before my time) December 1996 had a nasty combination of thick icing and roaring east winds for days on ends in the metro and the Gorge-- an ice storm which became one of the more devastating to hit those areas in modern times. Really showing my (lack of) age with this one 😅

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Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014):

 

(1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.

(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches

(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches

(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches

(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches

 

Honourable Mentions: December 7th, 2018, February 9th, 2019.

 

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Just now, Phil said:

It’s been too warm all summer.

Not entirely... its been accurate for SEA on some days and even too cold on a few days.   And closer than the ECMWF on many days.   The GFS output for SEA has been the best tool available to predict high temps out here in the Snoqualmie Valley.  Its been too warm for SEA... but I have personally experienced most of those warm temps it showed for SEA this summer.    👍

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12 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Up to 91 in North Bend... seeing some mid 90s around the EPSL now.    

The GFS should change its label on the SEA output to say "EPSL" since we have actually experienced pretty much all of the warm temps that the GFS has been showing for SEA this summer.

Are you in the EPSL?

I would say "Cascades" (also known as "rain forest").

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2 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

Are you in the EPSL?

I would say "Cascades" (also known as "rain forest").

EPSL.    Slightly elevated valley.     

My area is circled in red... North Bend, Snoqualmie, Fall City, and Redmond in that view going to the upper left (NW).   Not some mountain top in the Cascades.   😄

 

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13 minutes ago, Requiem said:

Worth noting that (though before my time) December 1996 had a nasty combination of thick icing and roaring east winds for days on ends in the metro and the Gorge-- an ice storm which became one of the more devastating to hit those areas in modern times. Really showing my (lack of) age with this one 😅

I remember that event. Bellingham and Victoria got five feet of snow. Where I was, just north of Seattle, got “only” two feet. Then an atmospheric river warmed things into the fifties and it started raining like mad. The flooding and roof collapses during the onset of the rain caused more chaos than the snow (which is saying something, given how much snow fell).

Last year I posted a scanned photo I took in 1996 during that event.

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After a frosty start, PDX has snuck its way into its 5th longest streak of 75+ highs on record this summer. Now at 38 consecutive days. Will be at 39 after today to tie 1958 for 4th place. Will be close to see if we can snap that on Saturday.

Top 5 streaks for PDX are now 2021, 2017, 2005, 1958, and 2022. 

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2 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

EPSL.    Slightly elevated valley.     

My area is circled in red... North Bend, Snoqualmie, Fall City, and Redmond in that view going to the upper left (NW).   Not some mountain top in the Cascades.   😄

 

 

I would say you fall within the far western domain of the greater Cascade Range. Really as soon as you elevate eastward from North Bend into your neck of the woods you're getting into the Cascade Range, vs. the Issaquah Alps which are a slightly distinct westward offshoot. 

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2 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

I would say you fall within the far western domain of the greater Cascade Range. Really as soon as you elevate eastward from North Bend into your neck of the woods you're getting into the Cascade Range, vs. the Issaquah Alps which are a slightly distinct westward offshoot. 

In the big picture... the valley out here ranges from 500-1000 feet with steep mountains all around.   This area is definitely part of the valley.   

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SLE sitting at 90 on the hour. 82 here, getting to the time of year when it is tough for us to get above 85 without some offshore flow or an exceptionally warm airmass. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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2 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

In the big picture... the valley out here ranges from 500-1000 feet with steep mountains all around.   This area is definitely part of the valley.   

Skykomish lies in a river valley too but it's still a part of the Cascades Range's overall domain (and weatherwise is still heavily influenced by the surrounding orographic factors).  The same is true of places like Oakridge, Stevenson, Darrington, and Hope. All of which lie in steep river valleys well within the Cascade Range's domain. 

Point being that one would simply make an obvious distinction between your locale and the lowlands that are lying entirely west of the Cascades. 

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Just now, BLI snowman said:

Skykomish lies in a river valley too but it's still a part of the Cascades Range's overall domain (and weatherwise is still heavily influenced by the surrounding orographic factors).  The same is true of places like Oakridge, Stevenson, Darrington, and Hope. All of which lie in steep river valleys well within the Cascade Range's domain. 

Point being that one would simply make an obvious distinction between your locale and the lowlands that are lying entirely west of the Cascades. 

Good point. I am at a similar elevation to Detroit Lake, but they get far more snow than we do as they lie squarely in the Cascade Range. Oakridge which you mention is lower than us and gets more snow, Stevenson is almost sea level and probably averages about the same if not more snow than we do. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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And another 90F burger baby!!

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Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25”
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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