August 2022 PNW Observations and Discussion - 1956 Redux!1!!1!

[T-Town]

4 minutes ago, Mr Marine Layer said:

How did CA drop from 61 to 51 if there were 17 new fires?

27 fires were extinguished?

[Blizzard777]

9 minutes ago, RentonHillTC said:

Thought we were gonna settle around 81-82 then popped to 86 late 

87/59 here and currently 82* 

Beautiful sunny August day although I miss my storms  

[Blizzard777]

8 minutes ago, T-Town said:

27 fires were extinguished?

SAT test question…..I think you got it right

[TacomaWx]

5 minutes ago, Jginmartini said:

87/59 here and currently 82* 

Beautiful sunny August day although I miss my storms  

You missed 2 decent ones while you were gone

[TacomaWx]

19 minutes ago, RentonHillTC said:

Thought we were gonna settle around 81-82 then popped to 86 late 

Should get a few more +80s and a couple more +85s before we close out this month. 

[Anti Marine Layer]

Meteorological fall is arriving pretty soon.

[Blizzard777]

11 minutes ago, TacomaWx said:

You missed 2 decent ones while you were gone

I’m glad those two batches paid a visit to the south sound but from now on I’m traveling to Az to get my fix.  Sad to wait so long for storms when they brew up everyday in the SW along with gorgeous scenery. Consider me spoiled ! 

[TacomaWx]

2 minutes ago, Jginmartini said:

I’m glad those two batches paid a visit to the south sound but from now on I’m traveling to Az to get my fix.  Sad to wait so long for storms when they brew up everyday in the SW along with gorgeous scenery. Consider me spoiled ! 

Yeah we had to wait almost 2 years for a storm like we had on august 10th here! The one on the 19th was a decent one too but nothing too insane. Wish we had more thunderstorms here but it’s a lot more fun when we finally get them. Kinda like snowstorms here wouldn’t be as interesting if it was guaranteed every year like it is in some climates. 

[T-Town]

26 minutes ago, Jginmartini said:

SAT test question…..I think you got it right

Two forest fires leave the train station at the same time…. Oh no a word problem!!!

[T-Town]

10 minutes ago, Jginmartini said:

I’m glad those two batches paid a visit to the south sound but from now on I’m traveling to Az to get my fix.  Sad to wait so long for storms when they brew up everyday in the SW along with gorgeous scenery. Consider me spoiled ! 

Most retirees go to the SW in the winter and return to the PNW in the summer. You do the opposite. Advantage @Jginmartini. 

[ChrisEl Elyon]

83° Belltown Seattle for high 

[TT-SEA]

28 minutes ago, T-Town said:

Most retirees go to the SW in the winter and return to the PNW in the summer. You do the opposite. Advantage @Jginmartini. 

Is that true??  I was led to believe on here that I am the only person in world who doesn't really care for PNW winters and who is not praying for summer to end and for the darkness to prevail.  I am excited to learn there might be a few more people out there who think like me!   

[Blizzard777]

29 minutes ago, T-Town said:

Two forest fires leave the train station at the same time…. Oh no a word problem!!!

Lol….I’m out….brain freeze !?! 

[Blizzard777]

28 minutes ago, T-Town said:

Most retirees go to the SW in the winter and return to the PNW in the summer. You do the opposite. Advantage @Jginmartini. 

Be like Jim….Jim is smart !

[Deweydog]

It just continues!!! MY OH MY!!!

[T-Town]

Firey sunset tonight. 

[Phil]

China in the same boat as the PNW this summer.

 

[T-Town]

1 hour ago, TT-SEA said:

Is that true??  I was led to believe on here that I am the only person in world who doesn't really care for PNW winters and who is not praying for summer to end and for the darkness to prevail.  I am excited to learn there might be a few more people out there who think like me!   

 

[Timmy Supercell]

2 hours ago, Mr Marine Layer said:

Meteorological fall is arriving pretty soon.

The 'Ber months are upon us!!

[ShawniganLake]

85/55 here today. Seemed like a bit of an overachiever 

[Frontal Snowsquall]

On 8/21/2022 at 8:48 PM, Phishy Wx said:

give me that 08-09 again. 97" of snow in Spokane, snowiest on record

Can't go wrong with either one. If I never experienced December 2008 before then I'd definitely pick it but I already have so give me a January 1957 type event. I'd like to experience close to 2 straight weeks of frozen temperatures with some snow cover. Very hard to do that west of the Cascades. 

[Omegaraptor]

2 hours ago, TT-SEA said:

Is that true??  I was led to believe on here that I am the only person in world who doesn't really care for PNW winters and who is not praying for summer to end and for the darkness to prevail.  I am excited to learn there might be a few more people out there who think like me!   

To be honest there is kind of a reason I flee to the mountains all the time during the winter.

Driving from the Portland metro to Mt Hood is a trip. Get in your car in 50 degree drizzle and you're in winter wonderland an hour later. Few places have this privilege.

[Timmy Supercell]

The evenings aren't as loud as they used to be out here. Mostly cricket sounds, if you listen very closely you might hear a distant katydid. 

Some definite but subtle transitions towards Fall. It's been a full two weeks since I had a 90 degree day.

Looking at Klamath Falls, yesterday was their 33rd 90-burger. They won't see as many as 2021 this year, but if you combine these last 3 summers, its averaging around 40 days >90. 2020 had well above the normal too (34 that year, and 53 last year). 

[BLI snowman]

11 minutes ago, Frontal Snowsquall said:

Can't go wrong with either one. If I never experienced December 2008 before then I'd definitely pick it but I already have so give me a January 1957 type event. I'd like to experience close to 2 straight weeks of frozen temperatures with some snow cover. Very hard to do that west of the Cascades. 

Quite a bit of ice on the Columbia at Vancouver by the latter end of the cold snap in 1957. Definitely one of the few times the river has seriously iced over since it last froze in 1937.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

6 minutes ago, Timmy Supercell said:

The evenings aren't as loud as they used to be out here. Mostly cricket sounds, if you listen very closely you might hear a distant katydid. 

Some definite but subtle transitions towards Fall. It's been a full two weeks since I had a 90 degree day.

Looking at Klamath Falls, yesterday was their 33rd 90-burger. They won't see as many as 2021 this year, but if you combine these last 3 summers, its averaging around 40 days >90. 2020 had well above the normal too (34 that year, and 53 last year). 

Seems like you’ve had a tolerable summer out there. I spent most of the summer of 1995 and 2002 across the river from you in Ironton. I remember it being incredibly hot and muggy. There were some pretty solid storms too. 

[Cloud]

Weeee!!! Let's get it! 

[Timmy Supercell]

4 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Seems like you’ve had a tolerable summer out there. I spent most of the summer of 1995 and 2002 across the river from you in Ironton. I remember it being incredibly hot and muggy. There were some pretty solid storms too. 

This one seemed like a front loaded season, any period warmer than average happened in June, and its been coming off that since. 

Averaging January to August doesn't look real warm out here, though I bet if you included December we'd be solidly warmer than average for the last 9 months. The La Nina Spring cold magic worked out here in Kentucky as well, with an April significantly colder than average. Though May was kind of warm, with a couple short lived waves of 90+ before summer kicked in.

[Doinko]

38 minutes ago, Frontal Snowsquall said:

Can't go wrong with either one. If I never experienced December 2008 before then I'd definitely pick it but I already have so give me a January 1957 type event. I'd like to experience close to 2 straight weeks of frozen temperatures with some snow cover. Very hard to do that west of the Cascades. 

I sadly didn't get to experience December 2008 here but looking through some old NWS text products, it seems like it switched for snow to freezing rain and then back to dumping snow during the big storm?

I hope something like that happens again, apparently totals ranged from 12" (downtown) to over 24" (South Metro, West Metro, Clark County and far east Metro I think)! Not sure about exact totals but I got them from old NWS PNS statements

Going back even further than 1957, January 1930 would be amazing! 19 straight subfreezing highs in downtown Portland! Hillsboro also recorded 2' of snow that month.

[Phil]

18 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Seems like you’ve had a tolerable summer out there. I spent most of the summer of 1995 and 2002 across the river from you in Ironton. I remember it being incredibly hot and muggy. There were some pretty solid storms too. 

By our standards this summer was kind of a reprieve.

We’ll probably end up with ~ 40 days at/above 90°F by the time summer wraps up, which would be the fewest since 2018. But 2018 was insanely humid, where-as 2022 was run-of-the-mill.

So overall, you could say it was the most “tolerable” summer here since 2014.

[BLI snowman]

Yes please

[Cloud]

5 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

Yes please

This showed Abbotsford with over 2" of rain! yas!

[Timmy Supercell]

14 minutes ago, Doiinko said:

I sadly didn't get to experience December 2008 here but looking through some old NWS text products, it seems like it switched for snow to freezing rain and then back to dumping snow during the big storm?

I hope something like that happens again, apparently totals ranged from 12" (downtown) to over 24" (South Metro, West Metro, Clark County and far east Metro I think)! Not sure about exact totals but I got them from old NWS PNS statements

Going back even further than 1957, January 1930 would be amazing! 19 straight subfreezing highs in downtown Portland! Hillsboro also recorded 2' of snow that month.

Amazing for that climate. As cold as Klamath Falls was as a climate, the most impressive cold blast I could manage during my stay was 10 or 11 days below 32 in Dec 2013. And to achieve that blast, required a mostly bone dry December after it snowed one day.

[Doinko]

6 minutes ago, Doiinko said:

I sadly didn't get to experience December 2008 here but looking through some old NWS text products, it seems like it switched for snow to freezing rain and then back to dumping snow during the big storm?

I hope something like that happens again, apparently totals ranged from 12" (downtown) to over 24" (South Metro, West Metro, Clark County and far east Metro I think)! Not sure about exact totals but I got them from old NWS PNS statements

Going back even further than 1957, January 1930 would be amazing! 19 straight subfreezing highs in downtown Portland! Hillsboro also recorded 2' of snow that month.

Here are some of the totals I could find:

Dec 12-14th:

https://mesonet.agron.iastate.edu/wx/afos/p.php?pil=PNSPQR&e=200812151845
Mark Nelsen's blog snow totals: https://web.archive.org/web/20090116112914/http://stormteam12.typepad.com/stormteam12/2008/12/snow-totals-.html

December 17th
https://mesonet.agron.iastate.edu/wx/afos/p.php?pil=PNSPQR&e=200812180010
Mark Nelsen's blog snow totals: https://web.archive.org/web/20090119133649/http://stormteam12.typepad.com/stormteam12/2008/12/snow-totals-ii.html

December 20th-22nd
https://mesonet.agron.iastate.edu/wx/afos/p.php?pil=PNSPQR&e=200812230320
Mark Nelsen's blog: https://web.archive.org/web/20090130013538/http://stormteam12.typepad.com/stormteam12/2008/12/snow-totals-iii.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20090129222646/http://stormteam12.typepad.com/stormteam12/2008/12/the-snow-keeps-coming.html

December 24th:
Mark Nelsen's blog: https://web.archive.org/web/20090129233208/http://stormteam12.typepad.com/stormteam12/2008/12/snow-totals-christmas-edition.html

January 2nd:

Mark Nelsen's blog: https://web.archive.org/web/20090116012038/http://stormteam12.typepad.com/stormteam12/2009/01/snow-totals-surprise-storm.html

January 4th:

Mark Nelsen's blog: https://fox12weather.wordpress.com/2009/01/04/sunday-night-snow-totals/

 

[Doinko]

5 minutes ago, Timmy Supercell said:

Amazing for that climate. As cold as Klamath Falls was as a climate, the most impressive cold blast I could manage during my stay was 10 or 11 days below 32 in Dec 2013. And to achieve that blast, required a mostly bone dry December after it snowed one day.

Here's the month in Hillsboro! They had less subfreezing highs in a row (15) but more snow than Downtown, and they dropped to -14! I also think the old Hillsboro COOP station was a worse radiational cooling spot than the current airport but I might be wrong about that:

 

[MossMan]

23 minutes ago, Doiinko said:

I sadly didn't get to experience December 2008 here but looking through some old NWS text products, it seems like it switched for snow to freezing rain and then back to dumping snow during the big storm?

I hope something like that happens again, apparently totals ranged from 12" (downtown) to over 24" (South Metro, West Metro, Clark County and far east Metro I think)! Not sure about exact totals but I got them from old NWS PNS statements

Going back even further than 1957, January 1930 would be amazing! 19 straight subfreezing highs in downtown Portland! Hillsboro also recorded 2' of snow that month.

Did somebody say December 2008? 
Here comes my buried Jetta pic again!!! 
This was taken on Christmas Day. 

[snow_wizard]

Two decent troughs over the next 10 days.  I'll take it at this point.

It appears SEA will come in below 1967 for the August average, but it's not a lock yet.  As of now they are running about 1 degree below the Aug 1967 average through today.  With some cool days slated for the end of the month it will be tough to beat.  We'll see.

On another note....I went to Liberty yesterday and the official USFS fire danger sign was at extreme.  Just a couple of months ago it was in the low / moderate range.

[Cloud]

21 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

Two decent troughs over the next 10 days.  I'll take it at this point.

It appears SEA will come in below 1967 for the August average, but it's not a lock yet.  As of now they are running about 1 degree below the Aug 1967 average through today.  With some cool days slated for the end of the month it will be tough to beat.  We'll see.

On another note....I went to Liberty yesterday and the official USFS fire danger sign was at extreme.  Just a couple of months ago it was in the low / moderate range.

'67 is definitely a hard beat.  We're probably gonna need to pull some impressive numbers these last few days to pull it off. 

[TacomaWx]

Some good trends on the 00z runs so far we will see what the euro brings. Feeling optimistic that it won’t be too Smokey down in central Oregon for my camping trip the 6th-13th next month if the trends continue. 

[TacomaWx]

Down to 66 here. Longer nights have definitely been taking the edge off these warm days now. 

[Rubus Leucodermis]

4 hours ago, T-Town said:

Most retirees go to the SW in the winter and return to the PNW in the summer. You do the opposite. Advantage @Jginmartini. 

AZ actually isn’t too bad in the summer if you stick to the mountains around Flagstaff.