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1 hour ago, TacomaWx said:

Pretty tough to hit 80 here in the second half of September. Never have gotten to 80 in October either. 

Historically, it's not been uncommon for your area. SEA has hit 92 on 9/22, and every record high but 2 from 9/15 to 9/25 is 85+.

In 1987, SEA hit 89 on 10/1!

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2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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9 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

Historically, it's not been uncommon for your area. SEA has hit 92 on 9/22, and every record high but 2 from 9/15 to 9/25 is 85+.

In 1987, SEA hit 89 on 10/1!

I’d have to get an exact number from my stats at home later…but since 2005 there’s probably just a handful of +80 days post September 15th here. Definitely no +85s. 

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33 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

Historically, it's not been uncommon for your area. SEA has hit 92 on 9/22, and every record high but 2 from 9/15 to 9/25 is 85+.

In 1987, SEA hit 89 on 10/1!

It reached 98°F here on 10/2/2019. I remember how miserable that day was.

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34 minutes ago, TacomaWx said:

I’d have to get an exact number from my stats at home later…but since 2005 there’s probably just a handful of +80 days post September 15th here. Definitely no +85s. 

Yeah, not a lot of really warm late Septembers the past 20 years for the area. Quite different than early September, or really any other period in the warm season.

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16 minutes ago, Phil said:

It reached 98°F here on 10/2/2019. I remember how miserable that day was.

DEN has somehow managed to avoid hitting 90 in October, but it will definitely happen one of these years.

We've seen 89 as late as 10/16 and 88 as late as 10/24. It's really a miracle we haven't cracked 90 yet.

EDIT: Looking at the old city records that go back to the 1800s, Denver did hit 90 on 10/1/1892.

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1 minute ago, Front Ranger said:

DEN has somehow managed to avoid hitting 90 in October, but it will definitely happen one of these years.

We've seen 89 as late as 10/16 and 88 as late as 10/24. It's really a miracle we haven't cracked 90 yet.

EDIT: Looking at the old city records that go back to the 1800s, Denver did hit 90 on 10/1/1892.

That’s crazy esp considering the lack of humidity there. You’d think that would allow temps to rise relatively easily.

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28 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

Yeah, not a lot of really warm late Septembers the past 20 years for the area. Quite different than early September, or really any other period in the warm season.

Just took a look and just 4 +80 days past 9/15 here since 2005. Warmest day was 84 on 9/22/09. Latest was an 83 on 9/28/17. Haven’t got to +80 in the second half of September since 2017. 

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Tim weather always in full force come mid/late September. Might not see a single cloud over the next week and no rain in sight. 🤮 

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Might be time to start considering the chances for warmest September on record at some PNW stations. I’ve always felt like the 67.4 at PDX was kind of low hanging fruit. Right now they’re about five degrees above that, with a good signal for another warming trend the last 1/3 of the month.

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27 minutes ago, smerfylicious said:

Silver lining on all this extra warmth:

I have about 35 romas and 10 or so San marzanos that are working on ripening. Would be a nice first season haul after a very late start.

Yeah, tomatoes (especially cherry) have been ripening for almost a month, but it's really in the last week or two that they've started prolifically producing. I wouldn't mind the first frost holding off for another month or so to keep the garden productivity up, but rain would be welcome to limit watering duties.

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Max Temp: 96.3F (2009)   Min Temp: 2.0F (2008)   Max Wind Gust: 45 mph (2018, 2021)   Wettest Day: 2.34 (11/4/22)   Avg Yearly Precip: 37"   10yr Avg Snow: 8.0"

Snowfall Totals

'08-09: 30" | '09-10: 0.5" | '10-11: 21" | '11-12: 9.5" | '12-13: 0.2" | '13-14: 6.2" | '14-15: 0.0" | '15-16: 0.25"| '16-17: 8.0" | '17-18: 0.9"| '18-19: 11.5" | '19-20: 11" | '20-21: 10.5" | '21-22: 21.75" | '22-23: 10.0" 

2023-24: 7.0" (1/17: 3", 1/18: 1.5", 2/26: 0.5", 3/4: 2.0", Flakes: 1/11, 1/16)

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4 hours ago, BLI snowman said:

September 1983 at least was quite troughy, and barely cracked 80 at PDX. Can't imagine anything like that nowadays. And it came after a very wet late August, as did 2008. The rule of thumb for me is that the longer it takes a ridgy/bone dry summer-like pattern to break down in the fall the worse a sign it tends to be for winter, although there are notable exceptions like 1936.

You are correct about this.  The interesting caveat is we are going to have a pretty major trough in the coming days.  Just not much precip.

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Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

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Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

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32 minutes ago, Skagit Weather said:

Yeah, tomatoes (especially cherry) have been ripening for almost a month, but it's really in the last week or two that they've started prolifically producing. I wouldn't mind the first frost holding off for another month or so to keep the garden productivity up, but rain would be welcome to limit watering duties.

If I have to, I'll pick what is left even if they are green. They'll ripen on their own time.

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1 hour ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Might be time to start considering the chances for warmest September on record at some PNW stations. I’ve always felt like the 67.4 at PDX was kind of low hanging fruit. Right now they’re about five degrees above that, with a good signal for another warming trend the last 1/3 of the month.

I remember this comment from 2017.

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46 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

Mile high...

Record high in Denver is the same as DC.

Drier air compensates for the altitude difference.

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1 hour ago, Skagit Weather said:

Yeah, tomatoes (especially cherry) have been ripening for almost a month, but it's really in the last week or two that they've started prolifically producing. I wouldn't mind the first frost holding off for another month or so to keep the garden productivity up, but rain would be welcome to limit watering duties.

I'm still waiting for any of them to start reddening. It's been about 25 days since flowering, so any time now....

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3 hours ago, Skagit Weather said:

Yeah, tomatoes (especially cherry) have been ripening for almost a month, but it's really in the last week or two that they've started prolifically producing. I wouldn't mind the first frost holding off for another month or so to keep the garden productivity up, but rain would be welcome to limit watering duties.

Same thing here... been picking tomatoes for about a month and they are still going crazy,      Everything is still producing very well except for peas which were done weeks ago.   

Hard to believe that we are going to go through this troughy period with almost no rain and then go back to ridging.    We are almost always done with watering by this point.   

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00Z EPS shows 850mb temps going above normal in just 3 days and stay above normal the rest of the month.   The cold air moves through so fast.    This troughing period has become virtually nothing in the big picture.      

 

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00Z ECMWF shows that the low clouds get scoured out on Friday and then there are middle level clouds on Saturday and its sunny again by Sunday for basically the rest of the run.   

If we go through the rest of September in my area with virtually no rain... we are looking at a record dry July - Sept period.

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While the PNW stays mainly dry there are many areas in the west set to get plenty of rain where they desperately need it. This would really help with the wildfire efforts in those areas as well. Awesome to see for mid September.

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Total snowfall: 26"

Highest daily snowfall: 5"

Deepest snow depth: 12"

Coldest daily high: -20ºF

Coldest daily low: -42ºF

Number of subzero days: 5

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I haven’t had a high above 71 or a low above 60 so far this week. 

Let’s recap this summer:

Hottest week ever in July

Hottest month ever in August

Hottest September ever?

Driest astronomical summer ever?

It literally couldn’t be worse. Well, until next year that is.

Mr. Tacoma will love this post. 

 

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23 minutes ago, Joshua Lake Oswego said:

I haven’t had a high above 71 or a low above 60 so far this week. 

Let’s recap this summer:

Hottest week ever in July

Hottest month ever in August

Hottest September ever?

Driest astronomical summer ever?

It literally couldn’t be worse. Well, until next year that is.

Mr. Tacoma will love this post. 

 

I think we are in the running for the driest astronomical summer ever in my area.    

And still running WAAAAY above normal for the water year across the entire area up here thanks to ridiculous rain earlier.   SEA is still 7 inches above normal for the water year.   If you cheer for ridiculous rain then you will probably have to endure the dry offset.   That is how climo works.

But the lack of rain is now starting to bother me.   There is no balance.   This will probably be offset by another record breaking rainy period.   And on it goes.    

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15 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

I think we are in the running for the driest astronomical summer ever in my area.    

And still running WAAAAY above normal for the water year across the entire area up here thanks to ridiculous rain earlier.   SEA is still 7 inches above normal for the water year.   If you cheer for ridiculous rain then you will probably have to endure the dry offset.   That is how climo works.

But the lack of rain is now starting to bother me.   There is no balance.   This will probably be offset by another record breaking rainy period.   And on it goes.    

We are very fortunate that we had a wet spring. Still, it’s a “what have you done for me lately” issue we are facing. Even hardy native plants can’t endure months of bone dry and far warmer than normal. 

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6 minutes ago, Joshua Lake Oswego said:

We are very fortunate that we had a wet spring. Still, it’s a “what have you done for me lately” issue we are facing. Even hardy native plants can’t endure months of bone dry and far warmer than normal. 

But if spring wasn't so extreme then maybe summer wouldn't have been so extreme.   On the other end of the spectrum... 2019 had a very dry spring and fairly wet summer and there was no smoke and it was green all summer (at least around here).     We are in a cycle of extremes right now.   

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6 hours ago, TT-SEA said:

Same thing here... been picking tomatoes for about a month and they are still going crazy,      Everything is still producing very well except for peas which were done weeks ago.   

Hard to believe that we are going to go through this troughy period with almost no rain and then go back to ridging.    We are almost always done with watering by this point.   

turned my watering budget on my sprinklers down to 50% yesterday but typically we have to water through first frost here if you want to maintain a green lawn so this is on track compared to other years over here in terms of water.

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50 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

But if spring wasn't so extreme then maybe summer wouldn't have been so extreme.   On the other end of the spectrum... 2019 had a very dry spring and fairly wet summer and there was no smoke and it was green all summer (at least around here).     We are in a cycle of extremes right now.   

I think there was a lot more rain to the South that spring. Eugene had over 7" of rain in April and there was flooding in the South Valley that month.

 

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I have never in my life seen the trees this green, this late in the season. Just finally starting to get some yellow color on the ash trees here.

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Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"

-2023-24*: 0.25"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

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-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

-Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31

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53 Degrees here and sunny with partly cloudy skies. AQI at 56 as of 7am update.

Garfield County/Pomeroy, WA:

2023-2024 Snowfall totals: 14.3 inches

HIghest snow total (per event): 5.8 inches total 1/11/24 - 1/12/24.

Most recent accumulation (non trace): 0.20 inches on 2/26/24

Days with  trace or more snowfall: 12/01/23 (0.60), 1/8/24 (1.0), 1/10/24 (3.5), 1/11/23 (3.5 inches with Thundersnow; separate event from prior day), 1/12/24 (2.30). 1/14/24 (T), 1/17/24 (1.20 inches), 1/18/24 (1.5 inches), 1/19/24 (0.20), 2/09/24 (0.30), 2/26/24 (0.20-mainly graupel)

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Last Sub freezing Day: 1/20/24 (12th) (8 days in a row from 1/12/24-1/20/24)

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Last White Christmas: 2022 at my location (on ground)

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42 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

I have never in my life seen the trees this green, this late in the season. Just finally starting to get some yellow color on the ash trees here.

Not really surprised given how crazy late the leafout was this year. Was in Sisters and Bend in late May and quite a few trees were still completely bare. Took until mid-June for some trees in Corvallis to finish up IIRC.

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I don't know if this was posted earlier, but here are the stats from meteorological summer. Not a record warm summer for any state, but in the west that's probably mostly because of a June that didn't roast the whole time. This was the third warmest meteorological summer on record for the nation as a whole (126). I thought it was interesting that NCEI figured out it was the warmest min temps on record for only Snohomish County in WA.

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Home Wx Station Stats (Since January 2008):

Max Temp: 96.3F (2009)   Min Temp: 2.0F (2008)   Max Wind Gust: 45 mph (2018, 2021)   Wettest Day: 2.34 (11/4/22)   Avg Yearly Precip: 37"   10yr Avg Snow: 8.0"

Snowfall Totals

'08-09: 30" | '09-10: 0.5" | '10-11: 21" | '11-12: 9.5" | '12-13: 0.2" | '13-14: 6.2" | '14-15: 0.0" | '15-16: 0.25"| '16-17: 8.0" | '17-18: 0.9"| '18-19: 11.5" | '19-20: 11" | '20-21: 10.5" | '21-22: 21.75" | '22-23: 10.0" 

2023-24: 7.0" (1/17: 3", 1/18: 1.5", 2/26: 0.5", 3/4: 2.0", Flakes: 1/11, 1/16)

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