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1 hour ago, TacomaWx said:

Tim will let you know June was VERY wet. That is if we’re talking meteorological summer. Astronomical summer was very dry. 

Astronomical summer this year was truly summer-like... warm and dry.  

Meteorological summer included a very wet first 3 weeks of June.

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1 hour ago, Phishy Wx said:

Lawn guy just called asking when do I want to do the fall irrigation system blowout/winterization. (last year we did it on 10/20)  I told him the wx nerds on the internet bulletin board I frequent said winter is cancelled so don't worry about coming around until late october/early november

Ours is getting blown out next Thursday which is about normal for us. The cold will come for us east siders like it always does!

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Cold Season 2023/24:

Total snowfall: 26"

Highest daily snowfall: 5"

Deepest snow depth: 12"

Coldest daily high: -20ºF

Coldest daily low: -42ºF

Number of subzero days: 5

Personal Weather Station on Wunderground: 

https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMTBOZEM152#history

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6 hours ago, Phil said:

I don’t think that’s a given just yet. Will depend on wind forcing over the Indo-Pacific (IE: any WWBs and resulting downwelling OKWs).

That why I think over the summer Larry Cosgrove was so against the La nina talk He was clearly going by the Data and was not going by what was going on in real time which is surpising as he is normally pro on real time stuff then Data.He has sifted his stance that this La nina is not acting typical.Dispite the enso difference idea wise  He has been nailing the pattern. 

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27 minutes ago, Omegaraptor said:

Should I dust my heavy winter coat off and see what's going on in Newport?

Very isolated Arctic blast.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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2 minutes ago, TacomaWx said:

77 here after a low of 48 warm day. Smoke is a bit less than earlier this afternoon. 

I pulled off a 78/42 here.  Interestingly the dps are even lower than yesterday, but low clouds are already advancing inland along the coast.  Kind of interesting.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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6 hours ago, BLI snowman said:

Maybe we can add a record warm October to our growing string of record warm months. 

I honestly have no clue where this is headed.  History says a full reversal could still easily happen in the coming weeks.

I think a reversal (deep / cold trough) is actually more likely than just going into a normal type early fall pattern.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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18z is ok

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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Newport getting the 12/21/22 special I see

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"

-2023-24*: 0.25"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

-Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31

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All of the smoke in Seattle this morning has been pushed out here now... its pretty nasty.  

Luckily its a short term issue as the smoke models show it quickly being shoved east of the Cascades by tomorrow morning with increasing onshore flow.

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6 hours ago, ChrisAmunRA said:

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The rain never did really show up in 1976-77.  Not that I think we will see a repeat this winter.  On the other hand we are REALLY due for a dry/cold winter in the Seattle area.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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Earlier I saw a post about Larry Cosgrove's blown Nino call.  Can't find the post to comment on now, but I'll say there was never ANY historic precedent to make the Nino call by early summer.  He was pretty much doomed to fail on that forecast from the start.

It still seems likely the mid latitudes will respond to the ongoing Nina eventually, but you never know for sure I guess.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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19 minutes ago, TacomaWx said:

77/48 here not bad. 

The things that was weird here is my mins kept getting lower the last few days in spite of the days getting progressively warmer.  Usually does not work that way.  I ended up with 44, 43, 42 the last three days.  Could have a shot at good fall color this year.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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4 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

The things that was weird here is my mins kept getting lower the last few days in spite of the days getting progressively warmer.  Usually does not work that way.  I ended up with 44, 43, 42 the last three days.  Could have a shot at good fall color this year.

No soaking rains in September will mean bad fall color... the leaves will just turn brown and disappear.

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4 minutes ago, T-Town said:

Riverhouse?

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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1 hour ago, snow_wizard said:

The things that was weird here is my mins kept getting lower the last few days in spite of the days getting progressively warmer.  Usually does not work that way.  I ended up with 44, 43, 42 the last three days.  Could have a shot at good fall color this year.

Dry air, longer nights.

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61F currently with a very strong rain smell but very little water making it's way to the ground.

Garfield County/Pomeroy, WA:

2023-2024 Snowfall totals: 14.3 inches

HIghest snow total (per event): 5.8 inches total 1/11/24 - 1/12/24.

Most recent accumulation (non trace): 0.20 inches on 2/26/24

Days with  trace or more snowfall: 12/01/23 (0.60), 1/8/24 (1.0), 1/10/24 (3.5), 1/11/23 (3.5 inches with Thundersnow; separate event from prior day), 1/12/24 (2.30). 1/14/24 (T), 1/17/24 (1.20 inches), 1/18/24 (1.5 inches), 1/19/24 (0.20), 2/09/24 (0.30), 2/26/24 (0.20-mainly graupel)

First Freeze: 10/27/2023

Last Sub freezing Day: 1/20/24 (12th) (8 days in a row from 1/12/24-1/20/24)

Coldest low: -12F (!!!!!!!!) (1/12/24)

Last White Christmas: 2022 at my location (on ground)

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9 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

Just a tad. "Summery".

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That ridiculous spring has now been balanced out.   Be careful what you wish for in the spring with endless rain and cold.    The payback is going to come during the warmest time of the year.    At least that is how it seems to work now with our warming climate.   

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10 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

That ridiculous spring has now been balanced out.   Be careful what you wish for in the spring with endless rain and cold.    The payback is going to come during the warmest time of the year.    At least that is how it seems to work now with our warming climate.   

Pretty close to average precip on the year now for most locations.

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Which is pretty impressive, considering summer anomalies (no matter how extreme) represent a very small percentage of overall precip during the year.

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42 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

That ridiculous spring has now been balanced out.   Be careful what you wish for in the spring with endless rain and cold.    The payback is going to come during the warmest time of the year.    At least that is how it seems to work now with our warming climate.   

I have said this elsewhere and now I will here. There is no balance. Nature doesn’t work that way. Sh*t just happens.

If everything balanced out, in the next 18 months we would: have our coldest temp ever by 9 degrees, have our 3 coldest days ever consecutively, have our wettest fall ever by a large margin, have our coldest week ever, then have our coldest month ever, then have our coldest month for that month ever, have our second longest all-time streak of days with precipitation, have our wettest astronomical winter, and have our longest streak ever of days not reaching a particular temperature.

Most of those are independent events that don’t overlap. I’m sure I am missing some less extreme and enduring heat and drought records or near records to balance out. 

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13 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

That ridiculous spring has now been balanced out.   Be careful what you wish for in the spring with endless rain and cold.    The payback is going to come during the warmest time of the year.    At least that is how it seems to work now with our warming climate.   

This is misinformation. This summer was much hotter than this spring was cold.

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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1 minute ago, Joshua Lake Oswego said:

I have said this elsewhere and now I will here. There is no balance. Nature doesn’t work that way. Sh*t just happens.

If everything balanced out, in the next 18 months we would: have our coldest temp ever by 9 degrees, have our 3 coldest days ever consecutively, have our wettest fall ever by a large margin, have our coldest week ever, then have our coldest month ever, the have our coldest month for that month ever, have our second longest all-time streak of days with precipitation, have our wettest astronomical winter, and have our longest streak ever of days not reaching a particular temperature.

Most of those are independent events that don’t overlap. I’m sure I am missing some less extreme and enduring heat and drought records or near record to balance out. 

The climate is warming.   And at least up here becoming wetter.    

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7 minutes ago, Joshua Lake Oswego said:

I have said this elsewhere and now I will here. There is no balance. Nature doesn’t work that way. Sh*t just happens.

If everything balanced out, in the next 18 months we would: have our coldest temp ever by 9 degrees, have our 3 coldest days ever consecutively, have our wettest fall ever by a large margin, have our coldest week ever, then have our coldest month ever, the have our coldest month for that month ever, have our second longest all-time streak of days with precipitation, have our wettest astronomical winter, and have our longest streak ever of days not reaching a particular temperature.

Most of those are independent events that don’t overlap. I’m sure I am missing some less extreme and enduring heat and drought records or near record to balance out. 

I have to agree with this. I've been a member here circa 2008.... the last time western Washington got absolutely wallupted by old man winter. Since then I've seen endless debates about balance. While the fact remains that nature will balance herself out, we humans have a propensity to cling to recognizable patterns. 

 

Not invalidating anything Tim said (yeah I've been around long enough to know you on a first name basis :) ) however, during my travels around the world, I've witnessed snow storms happen in the desert directly after a flood. 

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5 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

This is misinformation. This summer was much hotter than this spring was cold.

Not up here.

SEA was -4.2 in April and -4.9 in May and only +2.1 and +2.6 for July and August.

Spring was much more anomalously cold than summer was anomalously warm there.  

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