DominicR Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Jan came in plowing Chicago with 2 10+ winter storms and a polar vortex that brought record breaking cold to Upper Midwest/Lakes. How the rest of this month shaping up to be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Next 7 days looks pretty tame. Lowest temp: 7°. Skilling's 7 day didn't look bad either. Average winter temp regime. Probably will only see small snow systems for the next 7-10 days - at least this far south. Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicR Posted January 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Next 7 days looks pretty tame. Lowest temp: 7°. Skilling's 7 day didn't look bad either. Average winter temp regime. Probably will only see small snow systems for the next 7-10 days - at least this far south. We are on a roller coaster. I like LOT graphic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 GFS showing another clipper for saturday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Those that miss out on the Clipper Tuesday, may get their chance on Saturday. The Clipper train keeps on rolling... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 GFS unloads the PV into the Upper Midwest/GL region by next weekend, this run looks way more impressive than the one Jan 3-6. Depending on how much snow cover we have around then, I think this shot looks to be the mother load. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 We're going to have to have snow cover around to even come close to what we had last week. About the coldest I've seen it with scant snow cover is about -3°. January 2003 was a case like that. Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Ya, that's why I said depending on how deep the snow cover gets around that will be the deciding factor. We still have another Clipper Saturday to monitor and then another possible system in the GL early next week, then another chance right before the blast comes the following weekend. I think we will have atleast 6"+ on the ground for a large area around here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 GFS is way cold throughout majority of the run. some clippers as well. And at the end of the run it looks as if a storm may be developing in the rockies and plains, which may be that storm that Tom has been talking about from the Jan 30-Feb 2 timeframe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 12z GFS probably just had one of the coldest runs of the season to date for next weekend. PV targets Midwest/GL next weekend ushering -10/-20F temps next Sun - Tue. The trend for all the models are pointing for a repeat of what we experienced Jan 3-6. If we do have a deep enough snow cover I don't see why we wouldn't have temps that cold once again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEJeremy Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 GFS is way cold throughout majority of the run. some clippers as well. And at the end of the run it looks as if a storm may be developing in the rockies and plains, which may be that storm that Tom has been talking about from the Jan 30-Feb 2 timeframe.If we're referring to the LRC and the Oct 3-5th blizzard and tornado outbreak than we should see a storm before that based on this years cycle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 12z GFS probably just had one of the coldest runs of the season to date for next weekend. PV targets Midwest/GL next weekend ushering -10/-20F temps next Sun - Tue. The trend for all the models are pointing for a repeat of what we experienced Jan 3-6. If we do have a deep enough snow cover I don't see why we wouldn't have temps that cold once again. That's the $64,000 question! Under 4", is not going to do it. So far showing high and dry. Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 12z Euro Ensembles showing a picture perfect 500mb coast to coast storm track if this panned out. Blocking over the top, cold air to supply an active west/east storm track Days 10-15. This is when the LRC reaches its active stage and I think we will see some blockbuster storms showing up end of January into February. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 12z Euro Ensembles showing a picture perfect 500mb coast to coast storm track if this panned out. Blocking over the top, cold air to supply an active west/east storm track Days 10-15. This is when the LRC reaches its active stage and I think we will see some blockbuster storms showing up end of January into February. That looks nice.I couldn't help but catch JB is already looking for the February pattern to develop. Saying the SE ridge will flex it's muscles and shift the trough further west. Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 +1 Geos, that pattern above is similar to what we saw in December with blocking over the top and a west/east storm track across the U.S. SE Ridge may become active later in February according to JB's thinking. IMO, that seems very possible given the pattern that has entrenched this winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 00z NAM showing some decent moisture for the Thu/Fri Clipper...another one following its heals for Saturday that looks potent also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Depending on the track of the Saturday clipper, we could get some added LehS for lakeside counties. Temps will be in the low/mid teens for the event so very high snow ratios with the weekend Clipper. Could this be another Saskatchewan Screamer??? Probably a smaller scale version of todays Clipper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicR Posted January 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 00z NAM coming in pretty healthy with 500mb wave... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Skilling posted a snowfall map of widespread 2-3" totals for Thursday's clipper... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicR Posted January 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Hmm I am more interested in Sat Clipper. Wave looks pretty wealthy and digs nicely into C IL and even some signs of strong reflectivity but precip looks quite meager right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 GFS is the weakest one of the models so far tonight. It weakens quite a bit as it heads SE but I don't see that happening as it rounds the corner. These are they type of Clippers that flow along the southern side of the trough and then explode on the east coast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 It might snow some more this week, but both Sunday and Monday will be back above freezing. These fluffy snows get nuked as soon as the sun comes out and the air is above 25° or so. About 20 minutes of daylight gain so far. By the end of the month it's about a 53 minute gain here. Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Dubzz Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 To have a shot at getting as cold as we did last time, we're going to have to either do good with these next couple clippers, which isn't looking too great, or hope for a widespread big snowstorm right before the PV drops down. I don't know if you guys saw my post earlier, but I still have a really good snow pack. Just hoping I can add some and continue to hold on to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 euro for the next clipper http://models.weatherbell.com/ecmwf/2014011500/east/ecmwf_slp_precip_east_15.png http://models.weatherbell.com/ecmwf/2014011500/east/ecmwf_slp_precip_east_16.png http://models.weatherbell.com/ecmwf/2014011500/east/ecmwf_slp_precip_east_17.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicR Posted January 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 euro for the next clipper http://models.weatherbell.com/ecmwf/2014011500/east/ecmwf_slp_precip_east_15.png http://models.weatherbell.com/ecmwf/2014011500/east/ecmwf_slp_precip_east_16.png http://models.weatherbell.com/ecmwf/2014011500/east/ecmwf_slp_precip_east_17.png Accums? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicR Posted January 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 This clipper is looking interesting Friday night. Ratios look pretty healthy as well and maybe even some lake enhancement. I am not doubting a winter weather advisory for some areas in Lakes but to early to tell yet. LOT looks favorable: LIKE ONE OF THOSE NEVER-ENDING HANDKERCHIEFS IN A CLOWN`SPOCKET...YET ANOTHER CLIPPER (NUMERO SEIS) IS PROGGED TO BE DIVINGSOUTH TOWARD THE REGION ALREADY BY FRIDAY NIGHT. MUCH LIKE HISSIBLINGS THAT CAME BEFORE HIM THIS WEEK...SEIS SHOULD RESULT INRISING TEMPS FRIDAY NIGHT AS WARM AIR ADVECTION GETS CRANKING UP. ARESPECTABLY LARGE SPREAD IN THE MODELS IN THEIR HANDLING OF SEISLEADS TO UNCERTAINTIES REGARDING THE SNOW POTENTIAL LATE FRIDAYNIGHT INTO SATURDAY...BUT UNLIKE CINCO...SEVERAL MODELS SUGGEST THATSEIS COULD TAKE A MORE FAVORABLE TRACK FOR BRINGING ACCUMULATINGSNOW TO OUR CWA OR CLOSE BY SATURDAY. FOR NOW JUST RAISED POPS ABOUT10-20% FROM GUIDANCE BUT STAYED BELOW 50% DUE TO MODEL DIFFERENCES.AS MODELS HONE IN ON A CONSENSUS TRACK SUSPECT THAT WE COULD BETALKING ABOUT SEIS LAYING DOWN A SWATH OF SEVERAL INCHES OF SNOWSOMEWHERE IN THE CWA NEIGHBORHOOD SATURDAY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Dubzz Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 DVN keeps talking about places having no snow cover. That's not true! I know even people down in CR that still have some decent snow cover left over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBadgersW Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Long range NAM looks interesting for the clipper on Saturday. Of course this is the long range NAM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 12z NAM: 4+ from C/E MN through NW/C/S WI and into N. IL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meichel Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 12Z NAM says we get .5"/hr from 6am Saturday 'til Noon and it's still going. Quote On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 of course the clipper saturday looks like it may miss me to the east and north again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 tomorrow looks a bit interesting though. im already in a WWA for 1-2" and 50mph wind gusts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sciascia Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 This clipper is looking interesting Friday night. Ratios look pretty healthy as well and maybe even some lake enhancement. I am not doubting a winter weather advisory for some areas in Lakes but to early to tell yet. LOT looks favorable:Five imaginary dollars will be given if the eventual thread for this clipper has "Número Seis" in the title. LOT knows how to throw in a touch of humor from time to time. 12z GFS painting 3-5" in N IL from this clipper. Quote ...The Artist Formerly Known as RJSnowLover... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 12z NAM...looks like a decent 3-6" event. Nice way to rebuild that snow cover. Delta T's should be very favorable for LehS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 We should probably start a new thread for this one after 12z Euro comes out...what do you think Dominick??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Models are also indicating 1-2" for tomorrows Clipper. 12z GFS a little less QPF for Saturday Clipper but still not bad... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicR Posted January 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Dubzz Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 I'm not for sure what to expect with tomorrow's clipper. DMX has an advisory for 1-2", but I don't even know for sure if I will end up with 1-2", because the DVN's AFD this morning said less than an inch expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 12z RGEM looking pretty good for Thursday's Clipper...more widespread with it's snowfall in IA/IL/WI/IN/MI... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Snowman Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Still liking the bitter cold to close out January and kick off February. Thinking we'll see progressive but intense waves of cold weather that could continue on through a good chunk of the month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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