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5 minutes ago, Skagit Weather said:

Does anyone know what the minimum 850mb temps were last December with the blast or where I could find archives of that data online?

I found this site a couple weeks ago while referring to 1985 in this forum. Only used once, but it seems pretty good. https://weatherspark.com/h/m/913/1985/11/Historical-Weather-in-November-1985-in-Seattle-Washington-United-States#Figures-Temperature

 

EDIT - oops, you want 850T. Sorry.

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1 minute ago, Skagit Weather said:

Does anyone know what the minimum 850mb temps were last December with the blast or where I could find archives of that data online?

You might be able to find it by digging through the old December discussions from last year. Bad luck if people didn't actually share images but links... because those become dead after a while. This is why we usually upload image files on here for archive purposes, but not everyone does. 

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Down to 39. The fog has been getting pretty thick in downtown Duvall. Up on the hill where I live at about 400 feet it hasn’t really gotten to that elevation yet. Don’t know if I will hit freezing tonight it’s going to be close.

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2023 - 2024 Cold Season Stats

Total Snowfall - 0.75”

Max Snow Depth - 0.5”

Coldest High Temp - 21 (Jan 13)

Coldest Low Temp - 9 (Jan 13)

Number of Freezes - 48

Sub-40 highs - 12

Highs 32 or lower - 3

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12 minutes ago, Skagit Weather said:

Does anyone know what the minimum 850mb temps were last December with the blast or where I could find archives of that data online?

 

9 minutes ago, Cloud said:

You might be able to find it by digging through the old December discussions from last year. Bad luck if people didn't actually share images but links... because those become dead after a while. This is why we usually upload image files on here for archive purposes, but not everyone does. 

Looks like it's a bit unfortunate we lost the 2021 PNW December because it was started by Fred, any threads that was started by him is gone. We lost the archive for a pretty good month last year. 

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15 minutes ago, Skagit Weather said:

Does anyone know what the minimum 850mb temps were last December with the blast or where I could find archives of that data online?

Actually I've got some 2021 forecasts 850Ts in my 2021 ShareX screencap/weather maps folder on my PC. A trip down memory lane.

2021  maps - not 2022

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42 minutes ago, Gradient Keeper said:
🦃 Happy Thanksgiving 🍗
 
I just wanted to wish you all a happy and safe Thanksgiving holiday. I'm glad the weather will be cooperating for all of your travel destinations. This year it's very bittersweet since my brother suddenly passed this past June. It's just my Mother and I. That's my entire family now. It will be very scaled back. It gives me clearer perspective and appreciation for her more than ever and I'll need that. It's going to be rough. I also wanted to mention as tacky as it might sound? but I am thankful for this weather forum, all of the model riding, discussions, differing personalities, and humor. Definitely humor. 
 
Make the best of this holiday, and make new, lasting memories.

Now let's get some Cold and SNOW! C'MON!!!!
❄️☃️❄️⛄️❄️🌬❄️☃️❄️⛄️❄️🌬

I'm so sorry for your loss.  I lost a friend and a co-worker this year.  We just have to be thankful for the loved ones that are still with us.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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36 minutes ago, Skagit Weather said:

Does anyone know what the minimum 850mb temps were last December with the blast or where I could find archives of that data online?

You can dig through this. Probably the best one I was able to find. 

http://weather.uwyo.edu/upperair/sounding.html

I filtered it out for the UIL station and by just browsing through, looked like we were around -10 to -12C at 850 or ~1500 meters for Dec 2021.  You'll want to look through the Dec. 25-31 time frame since that was when we had our cold blast.

http://weather.uwyo.edu/cgi-bin/sounding?region=naconf&TYPE=TEXT%3ALIST&YEAR=2021&MONTH=12&FROM=0100&TO=3112&STNM=72797

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4 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

That would be June 2021 Payback brand absinthe.

Oh what I would do...

Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"

-2023-24*: 0.25"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

-Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31

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PNA, EPO, and NAO all still solidly minus at the end of the EPS run.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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6 minutes ago, Cloud said:

You can dig through this. Probably the best one I was able to find. 

http://weather.uwyo.edu/upperair/sounding.html

I filtered it out for the UIL station and by just browsing through, looked like we were around -10 to -12C at 850 or ~1500 meters for Dec 2021. 

http://weather.uwyo.edu/cgi-bin/sounding?region=naconf&TYPE=TEXT%3ALIST&YEAR=2021&MONTH=12&FROM=0100&TO=3112&STNM=72797

That's actually exactly what I was looking for. I found the records for each day of the year for Quillayute, but I couldn't find historical records. Thanks a lot and now it's bookmarked!

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Home Wx Station Stats (Since January 2008):

Max Temp: 96.3F (2009)   Min Temp: 2.0F (2008)   Max Wind Gust: 45 mph (2018, 2021)   Wettest Day: 2.34 (11/4/22)   Avg Yearly Precip: 37"   10yr Avg Snow: 8.0"

Snowfall Totals

'08-09: 30" | '09-10: 0.5" | '10-11: 21" | '11-12: 9.5" | '12-13: 0.2" | '13-14: 6.2" | '14-15: 0.0" | '15-16: 0.25"| '16-17: 8.0" | '17-18: 0.9"| '18-19: 11.5" | '19-20: 11" | '20-21: 10.5" | '21-22: 21.75" | '22-23: 10.0" 

2023-24: 7.0" (1/17: 3", 1/18: 1.5", 2/26: 0.5", 3/4: 2.0", Flakes: 1/11, 1/16)

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6 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

Oh what I would do...

I think a full payback for June 2021 would be Jan 30 through Feb 5, 1893.  Wicked cold and tons of snow.  I'm pretty sure there were some -30 to -35 departures on Jan 31 and Feb 1.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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Just now, snow_wizard said:

I think a full payback for June 2021 would be Jan 30 through Feb 5, 1893.  Wicked cold and tons of snow.  I'm pretty sure there were some -30 to -35 departures on Jan 31 and Feb 1.

Maybe 2021 was actually the payback for 1893. 😱

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Ended up with a 48/36 day here. Some interesting cloud patterns earlier this afternoon with a deck of high clouds moving in and a band of low clouds and fog hugging the Columbia River most of the day. PDX was actually cooler than here. Dense fog here now and 36 which was also a midnight low.

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SEA is actually in the running for their coldest November of the century after narrowly missing their warmest October.  Pretty impressive crash.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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50 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Ended up with a 48/36 day here. Some interesting cloud patterns earlier this afternoon with a deck of high clouds moving in and a band of low clouds and fog hugging the Columbia River most of the day. PDX was actually cooler than here. Dense fog here now and 36 which was also a midnight low.

I ended up with a midnight low of 36 for yesterday as well.  Currently 35 after briefly dipping to 34.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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Another thing I like is we have a solid shot at this being the third winter a row with freezing max temps.  

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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13 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

Another thing I like is we have a solid shot at this being the third winter a row with freezing max temps.  

That would be a pretty good accomplishment at SEA considering the fact there weren’t any freezing max temps there for 7 years straight prior to that.

2023 - 2024 Cold Season Stats

Total Snowfall - 0.75”

Max Snow Depth - 0.5”

Coldest High Temp - 21 (Jan 13)

Coldest Low Temp - 9 (Jan 13)

Number of Freezes - 48

Sub-40 highs - 12

Highs 32 or lower - 3

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Happy thanksgiving! The traditional turkey jersey today! Grateful for all the support!

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Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25”
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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TOUCHDOWN!!

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Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25”
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25”
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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Magic -8 Ball almost to Cape Blanco and Brookings.

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Night Shift delivers!

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Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25”
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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Weather channel is now showing a subfreezing high for me next Thursday and a freezing high next Friday. The trends keep continuing in the right direction. Currently 36.

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2023 - 2024 Cold Season Stats

Total Snowfall - 0.75”

Max Snow Depth - 0.5”

Coldest High Temp - 21 (Jan 13)

Coldest Low Temp - 9 (Jan 13)

Number of Freezes - 48

Sub-40 highs - 12

Highs 32 or lower - 3

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For fun, here's what I'm thinking for the ballgames today while we stay distracted with the models.

 

Josh Allen o287.5 pass yds vs a terrible Lions defense.

Saquon Barkley o74.5 rushing yds vs a lousy Cowboys run defense.

Adam Thielen o3.5 receptions vs a stingy Patriots pass defense that will force Kirk Cousins into defaulting to Thielen.

7pt 3-leg teaser of Bills, Giants and Patriots.

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Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25”
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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9 hours ago, Iceresistance said:

I forgot to mention that Early December may feature a -AO/-NAO/-EPO/-PNA regiment, this is going to be fun up there. 

Nevermid, the PNA is now expected to be neutral in Early December, changing from negative. 

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 I hope everyone has a good Thanksgiving Day.  Watch some World Cup Games or NFL and enjoy whatever it is you enjoy on the daily.  Food, Beer, Wine or Water.  Have fun.

The Allen and Barkley player prop bets above are solid.  Load up and lay five dimes on each.  Your dark colored Friday shopping will thank you.

Dropped to 30 at my back door.

Hoping for many many touchdowns in the next two weeks.

The chances for something good look like they are increasing with each Pepto colored map.

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The warning shot trough Sunday/Monday early next week is pretty decent on its own. We’ve had years where we didn’t get something like that the entire winter. There could be some places that get lowland snowfall out of the first trough. 
 The second trough is a much more significant punch on the models obviously. I wouldn’t worry too much about the snow maps just yet. At this range it’s not really going to pick up the finer details. Particularly the south sound for potential of an arctic front moving North to South down the Puget sound. 

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