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1 minute ago, TigerWoodsLibido said:

One of the big reasons why soccer sucks in my opinion is things like stoppage time. Just stop the clock when it goes out of bounds and count down from 45 minutes a half. It would make for a far more compelling finish to pretty much any game. The lack of that is pretty unfortunate and is one of the big reasons why Americans won’t ever find it compelling to the general public. An anti-climactic ending to every single game is boring.

Or it can be like baseball and not have a clock at all.

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5 minutes ago, TigerWoodsLibido said:

One of the big reasons why soccer isn’t fun in my opinion is things like stoppage time. Just stop the clock when it goes out of bounds and count down from 45 minutes a half. It would make for a far more compelling finish to pretty much any game. The lack of that is pretty unfortunate and is one of the big reasons why Americans won’t ever find it compelling to the general public. An anti-climactic ending to every single game is boring.

Soccer would be vastly improved by allowing unlimited subs. They play the whole game holding back their energy because they know they need to play 90 minutes with only one break at half which makes the game much slower paced. Compare that to hockey where players only play 45-90 seconds at a time so are playing with full effort the whole game. 

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Everett Snowfall (510 feet elevation)

Snow since February 2019: 91"

2023-24: 6"

2022-23: 17.5"

2021-22: 17.75"

2020-21: 14.5”

2019-20: 10.5"

2018-19: 24.75"

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, joelgombiner said:

Raindrop splatter on the north-facing windows today. A sign of things to come. 

I was just noticing rain drops on the north facing windows here too... always a sign of colder air moving in.

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38 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

It is truly odd that all models except the UKMET and ECMWF show us getting hit hard with that second round.  GFS, GEM, ICON, and JMA are all similar.  I know the ECMWF has struggled with that bias of shoving too much energy underneath a block so that could explain it.

Unfortunately as @Kayla pointed out there has been a significant seasonal bias for troughs to dump out early this year. Happened in November, happened last Dec and it may very well happen again.

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"

-2023-24*: 0.25"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

-Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31

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Now we wait.  It does seem the European models, except the ICON are shoving too ,much energy to the SW with the second round.  Common bias from what I've seen in the past.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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2 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

Unfortunately as @Kayla pointed out there has been a significant seasonal bias for troughs to dump out early this year. Happened in November, happened last Dec and it may very well happen again.

We'll see.  Right now the burden of proof is on the ECMWF and UKMET.  Even the EPS has half of its members quite cold.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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2 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

We'll see.  Right now the burden of proof is on the ECMWF and UKMET.  Even the EPS has half of its members quite cold.

I wouldn't peek at the ICON, Jim...

Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"

-2023-24*: 0.25"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

-Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31

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29 minutes ago, TigerWoodsLibido said:

One of the big reasons why soccer isn’t fun in my opinion is things like stoppage time. Just stop the clock when it goes out of bounds and count down from 45 minutes a half. It would make for a far more compelling finish to pretty much any game. The lack of that is pretty unfortunate and is one of the big reasons why Americans won’t ever find it compelling to the general public. An anti-climactic ending to every single game is boring.

I worked with this Romanian dude and I would tell him that if the World Cup games were played in the backyard of my house I still wouldn't watch. Pissed him off good.

3.5 hours.....final score....1-0.

That happens a lot. No thanks.

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12 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

I wouldn't peek at the ICON, Jim...

Why?  The 18z only goes out to day 5 and the 12z looked great.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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3 minutes ago, rsktkr said:

I worked with this Romanian dude and I would tell him that if the World Cup games were played in the backyard of my house I still wouldn't watch. Pissed him off good.

3.5 hours.....final score....1-0.

That happens a lot. No thanks.

soccer matches last 90min with some stoppage time on each half.  clock doesn't stop.  not sure what you're watching that last 3.5hours?

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4 minutes ago, MossMan said:

For those keeping score… Kayla, Meaty, and Richard Mann are not onboard. 

I jumped off last night with the 00z euro/eps.  I mean it'll get cold in Spokane and maybe snowy but not expecting anything record breaking I don't think

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2 minutes ago, FroYoBro said:

The only thing worse than a snowless winter is reading ignorant takes about soccer from Americans. 
 

We have the very important 18z to worry about now anyways. 

There is a reason why soccer is ignored in this country. You can call it ignorant but that won't change anything.

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Jay does not appear to be on board for the Wednesday system.

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2023 - 2024 Cold Season Stats

Total Snowfall - 0.75”

Max Snow Depth - 0.5”

Coldest High Temp - 21 (Jan 13)

Coldest Low Temp - 9 (Jan 13)

Number of Freezes - 48

Sub-40 highs - 12

Highs 32 or lower - 3

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Just now, SnarkyGoblin said:

And there's a reason it's the most popular sport in the world by a long shot.

True story: I played youth soccer for 7 years. One game I had 4 goals, and my attempt at a fifth went off the crossbar. I was so mad I kicked the ball over a fence into a field and in a cussing tirade. LOL. GoaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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19 minutes ago, Phishy Wx said:

I jumped off last night with the 00z euro/eps.  I mean it'll get cold in Spokane and maybe snowy but not expecting anything record breaking I don't think

Oh brother.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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3 minutes ago, Gradient Keeper said:

We're going to need a Christmas miracle in November if the ECMWF/EPS is to revert back to its colder solution.

It's outnumbered for what that's worth.  It's a pretty common bias of that model to push energy too far west on the SE quadrant of the block.  I think the burden of proof is on the ECMWF right now.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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14 minutes ago, Cold Snap said:

Jay does not appear to be on board for the Wednesday system.

All we need is a compromise between the GFS and ECMWF.  Pretty likely.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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Rather surprisingly it's down to 40 here now.  Nippy day.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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