November 2022 PNW weather Discussion. #NoRidgeNovember

[Doinko]

Just now, Requiem said:

A good event, but I'd argue a very west-side centric one.

Yeah, we got 2" here which was better than I expected being at only 250' and just usually getting less precip than the rest of the Metro area

[Perturbed Member]

3 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

Yeah, Friday night is easily looking like our most interesting window right now. Very iffy though.

18z Euro shows PDX at 27F early Friday AM with -7c 850mb temp. If that low can take a decent track, it might make it interesting. I suppose it is at least less iffy than that anafront and precip rate dependent snow the models were showing the other night. 

 

[snow_wizard]

2 minutes ago, Doinko said:

Hard to imagine something like 1930

 

Just a tad outside of the norm!  This region is indeed capable of extremely anomalous winters from time to time.

[gusky]

00z HRRR, still substantially higher DPs than what are being observed RN.

 

Edit: I am LEAVING NOW. I HAVE to get this homework done. Please yell at me if I come back.

Edited November 29, 2022 by gusky

[Deweydog]

5 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Jan 2017 and Feb 2014 came during a time when I was living in the Puget Sound area and getting skunked by big snowfalls to my north and south. For a number of years I never got more than an inch or two at any one time. Got quite frustrating.

We had quite a run down here between 2013 and 2018 when compared to the sound. Away from the gorge, that kind of imbalance couldn’t be sustained when compared to the PS area. We’re still paying on that debt. 

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

11 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

It happens.  In events like Dec 1919 and Jan 1930 Seattle got absolutely owned by Portland.  There are much more recent ones too of course.  The most notable in recent times was Jan 2017 and of course Feb 2014.

Yep I remember, sucked..

[MossMan]

Already down to 28 here! DP 27.

most of my dusting of snow survived the day! 
And the plow is staged and ready! 

[Terreboner]

Snowing pretty good at Detroit, OR right now.

[Slushy Inch]

Deep trough once again closer on EPS.

[snow_wizard]

7 minutes ago, Brian_in_Leavenworth said:

 

 

I'm fully prepared to be screwed here tomorrow.  I've seen it too many times.  East wind keeps things too dry, and low precip rates fail to get the job done.  Meanwhile the dry east wind flooding through here provides the dry air necessary for point NW of here to score big time.  At least with this one it looks like I won't have to wait long for my turn.

[Doinko]

1 minute ago, Deweydog said:

We had quite a run down here between 2013 and 2018 when compared to the sound. Away from the gorge, that kind of imbalance couldn’t be sustained when compared to the PS area. We’re still paying on that debt. 

2017/2018 was decent here, around 5.5" of snow that winter. Not as good as PDX. We did better in 2016/2017 than PDX though, 18" or slightly more

[Snownerd3000]

3 minutes ago, gusky said:

00z HRRR, still substantially higher DPs than what are being observed RN.

 

Edit: I am LEAVING NOW. I HAVE to get this homework done. Please yell at me if I come back.

Good to see bc the HRRR showed a substantially warmer solution for Wed. Sistek shared the HRRR and it wasn't promising 

 

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

1 minute ago, MossMan said:

Already down to 28 here! DP 27.

most of my dusting of snow survived the day! 
And the plow is staged and ready! 

It just feels right. My guy says tomorrow evening is going to be a big one.

[snow_wizard]

2 minutes ago, 12345WeatherNerd said:

Deep trough once again closer on EPS.

Just what we wanted!

[MossMan]

1 minute ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

It just feels right. My guy says tomorrow evening is going to be a big one.

I agree! This morning was our warning shot, tomorrow is the real deal! 

Edited November 29, 2022 by MossMan

[SnowWillarrive]

3 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

I'm fully prepared to be screwed here tomorrow.  I've seen it too many times.  East wind keeps things too dry, and low precip rates fail to get the job done.  Meanwhile the dry east wind flooding through here provides the dry air necessary for point NW of here to score big time.  At least with this one it looks like I won't have to wait long for my turn.

I’m not too Far East from you. I’m out towards ravensdale. Im worried the precip will just be eaten to shreds by any easterlies.

[TacomaWx]

2 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

I'm fully prepared to be screwed here tomorrow.  I've seen it too many times.  East wind keeps things too dry, and low precip rates fail to get the job done.  Meanwhile the dry east wind flooding through here provides the dry air necessary for point NW of here to score big time.  At least with this one it looks like I won't have to wait long for my turn.

Right now here with the first event I think the absolute most we see is 1” but I’m expecting somewhere between nothing and 1/2”. Overall if the trend continues Thursday just May be our best shot. 

[TT-SEA]

@bainbridgekid I love that Whats My Elevation link you posted on Facebook.    It's seems to be pretty accurate... it actually changes when I walk up and down the stairs.   

[snow_wizard]

6 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

We had quite a run down here between 2013 and 2018 when compared to the sound. Away from the gorge, that kind of imbalance couldn’t be sustained when compared to the PS area. We’re still paying on that debt. 

That was a weird run for sure.  The Feb 2017 and Dec 2017 snows kind of saved me from losing it during that period.  We also had the little surprise in Nov 2014 come to think of it.

[Cloud]

The 40 observed this morning after midnight destroyed a sub-40 day today. Can we not count that? Pretty chilly daytime maximum!🫣

[Brennan]

Temps were steady between 30-32 all day here, with a brisk ENE breeze along Lake Whatcom. We drove around the south end of the lake to go to Alpine Meadows Xmas tree farm in Acme, and there was a stiff NE wind blowing down even at the southern end of the lake. Not common! Great day to get our tree!! Fam pics are on wife’s phone. This is one I took near Wickersham facing east.

[MossMan]

1 minute ago, TT-SEA said:

@bainbridgekid I love that Whats My Elevation link you posted on Facebook.    It's seems to be pretty accurate... it actually changes when I walk up and down the stairs.   

Ohhh, can you sent that link to my FB messenger? 

[snow_wizard]

1 minute ago, SnowWillarrive said:

I’m not too Far East from you. I’m out towards ravensdale. Im worried the precip will just be eaten to shreds by any easterlies.

The more east you go the better the chances to score something in these cases.  Still not great for you either.  I'm sure glad the models changed so much for later in the week.

[TT-SEA]

2 minutes ago, MossMan said:

Ohhh, can you sent that link to my FB messenger? 

https://whatismyelevation.com/

I think phone is best since it has a GPS built in.   

 

[Terreboner]

1 minute ago, MossMan said:

Ohhh, can you sent that link to my FB messenger? 

Or go on your Google play or Apple store and get the "my elevation" app.  I have it and use it all the time.  Really cool when you are driving around the mountains and wonder what your elevation is, as long as you have service :).

[Winterdog]

5 minutes ago, MossMan said:

I agree! This morning was our warning shot, tomorrow is the real deal! 

I think the real real deal will be a few days later, 30 here

[snow_wizard]

2 minutes ago, Brennan said:

Temps were steady between 30-32 all day here, with a brisk ENE breeze along Lake Whatcom. We drove around the south end of the lake to go to Alpine Meadows Xmas tree farm in Acme, and there was a stiff NE wind blowing down even at the southern end of the lake. Not common! Great day to get our tree!! Fam pics are on wife’s phone. This is one I took near Wickersham facing east.

Gorgeous area!  Nice way to top off the cold November!

[snow_wizard]

2 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

https://whatismyelevation.com/

I think phone is best since it has a GPS built in.   

 

Or looking at an actual topographical map of where your house is.  The phone thing is awesome for knowing your elevation wherever you are though.

[Cloud]

2 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

https://whatismyelevation.com/

 

 

How accurate is it if it doesn’t have a GPS indicator when putting in location? I use the “My Altitude” app on my iPhone and it appears to be fairly accurate. 

[SnowWillarrive]

Just now, snow_wizard said:

Or looking at an actual topographical map of where your house is.  The phone thing is awesome for knowing your elevation wherever you are though.

GPS apps like GAIA gps are much more accurate. Mine shows a 50 foot difference. 

[Dave]

2 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

https://whatismyelevation.com/

I think phone is best since it has a GPS built in.   

 

It's not completely accurate. It's showing me about 120 feet off. I've verified this on other apps and on google earth.

[Cloud]

“My Altitude” app. 

[Skagit Weather]

6 minutes ago, Brennan said:

Temps were steady between 30-32 all day here, with a brisk ENE breeze along Lake Whatcom. We drove around the south end of the lake to go to Alpine Meadows Xmas tree farm in Acme, and there was a stiff NE wind blowing down even at the southern end of the lake. Not common! Great day to get our tree!! Fam pics are on wife’s phone. This is one I took near Wickersham facing east.

The foothills to the east of Mt Vernon were gorgeous this evening. I didn’t take a photo, but they were plastered with snow from last night down to about 1,000’.

[RentonHill]

1 minute ago, SnowWillarrive said:

GPS apps like GAIA gps are much more accurate. Mine shows a 50 foot difference. 

+1 for GAIA

[TT-SEA]

2 minutes ago, Dave said:

It's not completely accurate. It's showing me about 120 feet off. I've verified this on other apps and on google earth.

Interesting.   Mine is perfectly accurate based on topography maps and our house plans from 20 years ago.    And it follows me closely... it shows 996 feet on the main level of the house and then drops to 980 feet when I go downstairs.   

[Meatyorologist]

DP's around 17-23F in the city, most other models had them around 24-30F.

[Terreboner]

1 minute ago, Dave said:

It's not completely accurate. It's showing me about 120 feet off. I've verified this on other apps and on google earth.

The "my elevation" app is right on the money.  

My Elevation - Apps on Google Play

I don't have Apple and looks like it isn't available.  I have heard good things about the Altimer App from my Iphone peeps.

[Cloud]

Also with the “my altitude” app is that there is a +/- 20ft error so you will occasionally see some fluctuations. 
 

if anyone is interested in using it

[Meatyorologist]

South sound they are in the low 20s. GFS, which is usually too aggressive had them around freezing.

[Nov1985]

19 minutes ago, gusky said:

00z HRRR, still substantially higher DPs than what are being observed RN.

 

Edit: I am LEAVING NOW. I HAVE to get this homework done. Please yell at me if I come back.

How about ECMWF?