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Current 30F here in Victoria with outflow modest outflow winds and a 19F dewpoint. That's actually pretty remarkable for early evening with a mixed atmosphere when most of the outflow zones were barely at freezing yesterday evening, even as far as Lytton. This setup isn't as nice, but it reminds me a bit of last Jan 5th earlier this year when the outflow arrived just as the system was coming ashore. Many models showed a changeover to rain, but it never quite happened and we ended up with 8" of snow. Could easily stay as snow to the north of here, I just hope we don't get shadowed.

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00z GFS Day 3:

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4 Run Trend:

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"

-2023-24*: 0.25"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

-Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31

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00z GFS Day 4:

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4 Run Trend:

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"

-2023-24*: 0.25"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

-Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31

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1 hour ago, Nov1985 said:

00Z NAM actually looks like fun. Weeeee!

 

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I love that little low that hooks around the south end of the Olympics.  With any bit of luck OLM to SW King County could do well with the event later in the week.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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1 minute ago, Hawksfan2008 said:

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Ground zero again. That is not going to change at all I think!

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"

-2023-24*: 0.25"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

-Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31

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1 minute ago, lowlandsnow said:

If there isn't at least 40 inches it's a bad GFS run

True.  We need a lot of extra cushion with that model.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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2 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

Ground zero again. That is not going to change at all I think!

GFS went from about 24 inches in Seattle through Friday on the 12Z run down to 15 inches on the 00Z run.   😀

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00z GFS doesn't have as good of a track with the Friday-Saturday system compared to the 18z but it is still a good improvement over the 12z. Approaches us further north than the 18z but it is still acceptable for PDX at least. Rain to snow situation as the low sinks south and offshore flow increases. 

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00z GFS Day 5:

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4 Run Trend

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"

-2023-24*: 0.25"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

-Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31

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Just now, Perturbed Member said:

00z GFS doesn't have as good of a track with the Friday-Saturday system compared to the 18z but it is still a good improvement over the 12z. Approaches us further north than the 18z but it is still acceptable for PDX at least. Rain to snow situation as the low sinks south and offshore flow increases. 

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Keeps temps pretty cool throughout the day as well

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Just now, Snownerd3000 said:

Good sign, he's sobered up and gave is our real totals 

If this pattern delivers almost a foot and half of snow to downtown Seattle in 4 days it will still be truly amazing.    It doesn't look wet enough overall.    I imagine a massive overrunning AR event to achieve that kind of snow to Seattle.

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Just now, SnowWillarrive said:

What time do you good folks think it will start snowing on Tuesday? 

Seems earlier with every run.    Late morning now.

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1 minute ago, TT-SEA said:

If this pattern delivers almost a foot and half of snow to downtown Seattle in 4 days it will still be truly amazing.    It doesn't look wet enough overall.    I imagine a massive overrunning AR event to achieve that kind of snow to Seattle.

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Each flake is as big as a snowman’s head of course. 

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00z GFS Day 6:

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4 Run Trend:

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"

-2023-24*: 0.25"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

-Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31

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6 minutes ago, Hawksfan2008 said:

GFS keeps offshore flow much longer than the mesoscale models. EURO in between. That will make all the difference. 

I truly have no idea what will happen with that detail out here.    I have noticed that the models are showing more of a SE flow tomorrow night rather than straight easterly.   I remember some our biggest snowstorms (when it never really scours out) is when the flow is straight easterly through the pass.    Really tough to forecast... not sure how it will play out.

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3 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

00z GFS Day 6:

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4 Run Trend:

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I am very interested to see how that plays out.  Our best shot for some real cold out of this.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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2 minutes ago, SnowPlz said:

What time would it switch back to snow? 

Late evening Wednesday night it appears.  That's when 925mb temps get to the no doubt about it stage.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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