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2 minutes ago, Everleigh said:

That is just INSANE to see!! I've not experience snow like that before. I sure would like to, but seeing as I don't enjoy travel and plan on staying in Washington state till I am dust....I most likely won't get to experience it. 

It can potentially happen for us… all we need is a potent arctic airmass meeting an AR. Would love to see that sometimes. 

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12 minutes ago, Everleigh said:

That is just INSANE to see!! I've not experience snow like that before. I sure would like to, but seeing as I don't enjoy travel and plan on staying in Washington state till I am dust....I most likely won't get to experience it. 

The Washington Cascades can get some massive snowstorms.

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10 minutes ago, Cloud said:

It can potentially happen for us… all we need is a potent arctic airmass meeting an AR. Would love to see that sometimes. 

What about the rest of the time? 🤔 

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22 minutes ago, Cloud said:

Here’s bit of both for you for something that actually did came to fruition. It’s like projectile vomit from the lakes. 
 

 

More like a firehose!

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5 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Big January that year.

The rivers overflowed with the tears of weather weenies. 

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22-23 cold season stats

Coldest max-34

Coldest min-24

Sub 40 highs-2

Sub 32 highs-0

Sub 32 lows-10

Total snowfall-2.7”

Monthly rainfall-0.02”

Wet season rainfall-7.22”

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3rd consecutive record lows for the south valley. Really nice stretch of brilliant cold nights under the stars.

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Springfield, Oregon regular season 22-23 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 4F (Dec 1, 2022)
  • Coldest low: 20F (Nov 19, 2022)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 13 (Most recent: Dec 2, 2022)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 0 (Most recent: Jan 17, 2022)
  • Total snowfall: 0.5"
  • Last accumulating snowfall: December 1, 2022
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31F) *Longest streak without a sub-freezing high on record*
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall: December 1, 2022
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 40.2"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 0

 

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6 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Big January that year.

Actually it was quite mild and wet. Most wouldn’t consider that a “big” January when compared to those like 1950 or 1969 which both featured a considerable amount of cold/snow in the lowlands.

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3 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

Actually it was quite mild and wet. Most wouldn’t consider that a “big” January when compared to those like 1950 or 1969 which both featured a considerable amount of cold/snow in the lowlands.

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22-23 cold season stats

Coldest max-34

Coldest min-24

Sub 40 highs-2

Sub 32 highs-0

Sub 32 lows-10

Total snowfall-2.7”

Monthly rainfall-0.02”

Wet season rainfall-7.22”

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ECMWF is on board for a nice trough.

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Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 4.3"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 4

Total Hail = 0.0

Coldest Low = 24

Lows 32 or below = 23

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 5

 

 

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Frigid in BC again.

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Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 4.3"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 4

Total Hail = 0.0

Coldest Low = 24

Lows 32 or below = 23

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 5

 

 

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32 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

The Washington Cascades can get some massive snowstorms.

Snowiest mountains in the world.

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Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 4.3"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 4

Total Hail = 0.0

Coldest Low = 24

Lows 32 or below = 23

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 5

 

 

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Looks like a relatively rare consistently cold winter is on the table this year. Something like 1978-79, 1948-49, 1916-17, 1984-85 or some kind of a variation on those themes.  Looking at record lows in WA this month most if not all of these seasons have popped up.  They were all very blocky seasons obviously.

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Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 4.3"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 4

Total Hail = 0.0

Coldest Low = 24

Lows 32 or below = 23

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 5

 

 

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35 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

Progression kinda reminds me of 2005.

The recent clear windstorm was certainly like Dec 2005.  What we have already had is like December 2005, but what is apparently coming takes a different path than we did that season.

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Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 4.3"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 4

Total Hail = 0.0

Coldest Low = 24

Lows 32 or below = 23

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 5

 

 

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Wow!  The lowest pressure anywhere over the NE Pacific on the ECMWF at day 10 is 1008mb.

#pacificshutdown

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Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 4.3"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 4

Total Hail = 0.0

Coldest Low = 24

Lows 32 or below = 23

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 5

 

 

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6 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

Looks like a relatively rare consistently cold winter is on the table this year. Something like 1978-79, 1948-49, 1916-17, 1984-85 or some kind of a variation on those themes.  Looking at record lows in WA this month most if not all of these seasons have popped up.  They were all very blocky seasons obviously.

All of these winters had something!

 

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9 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

Looks like a relatively rare consistently cold winter is on the table this year. Something like 1978-79, 1948-49, 1916-17, 1984-85 or some kind of a variation on those themes.  Looking at record lows in WA this month most if not all of these seasons have popped up.  They were all very blocky seasons obviously.

It’s November. 

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3 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

The recent clear windstorm was certainly like Dec 2005.  What we have already had is like December 2005, but what is apparently coming takes a different path than we did that season.

Big, persistent ridge during the heart of November 2005 followed by a period of cool/cold troughing. 

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2 minutes ago, FroYoBro said:

It’s November. 

I know, but the signs have been stacking up for a while now.  Just sayin don't be surprised if it happens.

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Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 4.3"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 4

Total Hail = 0.0

Coldest Low = 24

Lows 32 or below = 23

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 5

 

 

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1 minute ago, Deweydog said:

Big, persistent ridge during the heart of November 2005 followed by a period of cool/cold troughing. 

I'll have to look at that part of it again.

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Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 4.3"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 4

Total Hail = 0.0

Coldest Low = 24

Lows 32 or below = 23

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 5

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Doinko said:
All of these winters had something!

 

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Not a loser on the list.

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Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 4.3"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 4

Total Hail = 0.0

Coldest Low = 24

Lows 32 or below = 23

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 5

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

Big, persistent ridge during the heart of November 2005 followed by a period of cool/cold troughing. 

17 inches of snow here in one night in early December 2005.     Then a couple weeks of relentless wind and then it turned just a wee bit wet for 6 weeks.

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6 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

I know, but the signs have been stacking up for a while now.  Just sayin don't be surprised if it happens.

I have a trip to VN mid-January. Should I be worried?!!?!? Will my international flight be canceled? 

#TheNeedToKnow. 

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1 hour ago, Cloud said:

It can potentially happen for us… all we need is a potent arctic airmass meeting an AR. Would love to see that sometimes. 

That's what happened in January 1880 and it was pandemonium.  Widespread 4 to 6 foot totals.  I have really examined that event and it's obvious between the first and second intense low pressure systems we were in a baroclinic zone.  Remarkably there was enough of an Arctic air tap to turn all of that water into lowland snow.  I can't even imagine what the totals may have been a bit inland when totals were 4 to 6 feet at sea level.

That was one of the greatest lowland snowstorms in the history of the United States.  This statement applies to what they call system snow back East.  Lake effect is a different animal.

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Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 4.3"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 4

Total Hail = 0.0

Coldest Low = 24

Lows 32 or below = 23

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 5

 

 

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4 minutes ago, TacomaWx said:

We did get some snow here in February 2006 tho

Some wicked CAA also.  It was blowing 50mph here with a temp of 23.  That was nuts.

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Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 4.3"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 4

Total Hail = 0.0

Coldest Low = 24

Lows 32 or below = 23

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 5

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Cloud said:

I have a trip to VN mid-January. Should I be worried?!!?!? Will my international flight be canceled? 

#TheNeedToKnow. 

Where is VN?

No way to know yet.  A lot of it may be dry cold if the persistent cold winter happens.  Most of those do have a couple of periods of snow though.

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Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 4.3"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 4

Total Hail = 0.0

Coldest Low = 24

Lows 32 or below = 23

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 5

 

 

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3 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

Where is VN?

No way to know yet.  A lot of it may be dry cold if the persistent cold winter happens.  Most of those do have a couple of periods of snow though.


Viet Nam. Visiting the wife’s family for lunar new year. 

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8 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

That's what happened in January 1880 and it was pandemonium.  Widespread 4 to 6 foot totals.  I have really examined that event and it's obvious between the first and second intense low pressure systems we were in a baroclinic zone.  Remarkably there was enough of an Arctic air tap to turn all of that water into lowland snow.  I can't even imagine what the totals may have been a bit inland when totals were 4 to 6 feet at sea level.

That was one of the greatest lowland snowstorms in the history of the United States.  This statement applies to what they call system snow back East.  Lake effect is a different animal.

1996 was a poor man’s version of this. 

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11 minutes ago, TacomaWx said:

We did get some snow here in February 2006 tho

Pretty interesting winter with a very meridional start followed by an epically consistent period of onshore flow (55 consecutive + anomalies at PDX) followed by another period of strong meridional stuff.

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EPS is a go on a late month chilly / cold period.

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Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 4.3"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 4

Total Hail = 0.0

Coldest Low = 24

Lows 32 or below = 23

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 5

 

 

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Fwiw, the low DPs and sunny skies as of late has been great in terms of harvesting. Harvested 3 sunflowers the other day and air drying them. Made a patch of roasted/salt sunflower seeds yesterday and they taste fantastic! 

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This stretch of sunny days and cold nights have been perfect.  I love the cold morning and the sunny days, especially in the winter when things can get a bit depressing.

I hope we get another stretch like this but with a few inches of snow on the ground.  Wouldn't that be great?

In a year of weird extremes and ridging it just feels right that we are going to get nailed.

Hammer time anyone?

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2 minutes ago, Hour364Please said:

This stretch of sunny days and cold nights have been perfect.  I love the cold morning and the sunny days, especially in the winter when things can get a bit depressing.

I hope we get another stretch like this but with a few inches of snow on the ground.  Wouldn't that be great?

In a year of weird extremes and ridging it just feels right that we are going to get nailed.

Hammer time anyone?

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28 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

I'll have to look at that part of it again.

I'll tell you about it, I was a Senior in High School. You know, that one time in your life you don't make up snow days. So I'm like bring them all on. 

Yeah, big disappointment. We had chances of snow, but fell apart the last second. Like one time this low came down the coast and was suppose to swing inland, but it was like duces and went down the coast and warmed us up!

2004 and 2006 were good though.

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2 minutes ago, Winterdog said:

I hope you all are sitting down for this!  This morning ties my November record for freezes at 16!  Also, the 13th sub 30 low in a row!  Currently 40 after a low of 23.

Normally you’d figure a pattern like this would deliver a lot of fog but there’s been almost none here. Has allowed for some very cold mins across the region. 

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22-23 cold season stats

Coldest max-34

Coldest min-24

Sub 40 highs-2

Sub 32 highs-0

Sub 32 lows-10

Total snowfall-2.7”

Monthly rainfall-0.02”

Wet season rainfall-7.22”

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49 after a low of 30. The weather the last 2 weeks has been nice with the cold frosty mornings and mild days but I’ll be ready for the rain to return in a couple days. 

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22-23 cold season stats

Coldest max-34

Coldest min-24

Sub 40 highs-2

Sub 32 highs-0

Sub 32 lows-10

Total snowfall-2.7”

Monthly rainfall-0.02”

Wet season rainfall-7.22”

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4 minutes ago, TacomaWx said:

Normally you’d figure a pattern like this would deliver a lot of fog but there’s been almost none here. Has allowed for some very cold mins across the region. 

I was thinking about that too. Not too often we get cool, calm and clear. 

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