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19 minutes ago, Dave said:

2009 was a very cold blast. No moisture at all though so it was such a waste. Ice hockey was being played on some ponds in west Eugene.

That one was I believe a totally dry blast pretty much everywhere. It happened during an El Niño winter so came as a surprise to many.

The nice thing about it was that I was living in Portland at the time, and it was the only blast during my time there that did not involve a big snow or ice storm in the Gorge, and it was still going strong when the weekend hit, so I was at long last able to drive into the Gorge and see the iced-up waterfalls.

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It's called clown range for a reason.

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4 minutes ago, SouthHillFrosty said:

The GEM delivered. Model wars 2022 brewing???

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No good. Dump that one and let’s stick to the GFS! 

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Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! 

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8 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

I remember that one very well. First temps in the single digits I’ve witnessed when I was old enough to know what was going on. Lots of icing on local rivers. Plus cold is just fun on its own. There are a lot of people here who like heat along with nothing else.

As has been mentioned, we had a very nice overachieving snow event in the Portland area later on that month as well.

Just depends on what you’re interested in. Me personally I’d prefer a 30/20 day with a few inches of snow over a 25/15 day with none. Either is pretty dope though! 

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22-23 cold season stats

Coldest max-25

Coldest min-19

Sub 40 highs-11

Sub 32 highs-2

Sub 32 lows-24

Total snowfall-6.0” 

Monthly rainfall-0.89”

Wet season rainfall-17.30”

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A lot going on next 10 days with so many chances. 00Z GFS is showing 4° to 6° F next Saturday morning SE of Everrett. Monroe, Snohomish, Lake Stevens. Reminds me of one of the recent (2019 or 2020) events when both GFS and ECMWF way over did the cold to similar single digits, then warmed up to upper 20's in later model runs. Yet it still got just cold enough for multiple good snows. Hoping for the modified arctic front + multiple precipitation events.

 

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1 minute ago, Nov1985 said:

A lot going on next 10 days with so many chances. 00Z GFS is showing 4° to 6° F next Saturday morning SE of Everrett. Monroe, Snohomish, Lake Stevens. Reminds me of one of the recent (2019 or 2020) events when both GFS and ECMWF way over did the cold to similar single digits, then warmed up to upper 20's in later model runs. Yet it still got just cold enough for multiple good snows. Hoping for the modified arctic front + multiple precipitation events.

 

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Great take 

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1 minute ago, Gradient Keeper said:
It is nice to see the GEFS and EPS are BOTH trending colder and the GFS isn't on its own like usual.

Yeah it’s definitely nice to be seeing that. The more I see them trend colder the more confidence I have in this happening. I feel like this could be as good as last December snow wise but maybe not temp wise.

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2022-2023 Winter Stats

Total Snowfall - 14.25”

Max Snow Depth - 6”

Coldest High Temp - 23F

Coldest Low Temp - 11F

Number of Freezes - 49

Sub-40 highs - 18

Highs 32 or lower - 3

 

 

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38 minutes ago, Dave said:

Eugene didn't get screwed at all in 2008. It just wasn't the epic once in 30 years type system that it was for Portland and other areas. We got about 4-5 inches of nice dry snow and 3-4 days of subfreezing temps. A very good event.

Yeah you're right, I guess they just didn't do as well as the rest of the region but still pretty great then!

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32 minutes ago, TacomaWx said:

Just depends on what you’re interested in. Me personally I’d prefer a 30/20 day with a few inches of snow over a 25/15 day with none. Either is pretty dope though! 

The first type of day followed by the second would be ideal!

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Summer ☀️ grows while Winter ❄️  goes

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40 minutes ago, MossMan said:

No good. Dump that one and let’s stick to the GFS! 

Sorry Moss. Let's pretend we're playing my son's favorite game, Minecraft and go with the many GEMs. I like the Gem better for my location and run to run changes too.

Currently I'm in Spokane and we have the freezing fog and there's still snow in the parking lots from yesterday. Not looking forward to waking up in five hours to catch a flight but model riding is fun.

Currently debating whether or not to cancel our return stay at this airport hotel on Saturday night or drive back through snow showers on Sunday.

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Garfield County/Pomeroy, WA:

2022-2023 snowfall totals: 9.3 inches

Highest snow total (per event): 2.20 inches (12/19/22 & 12/20/22)

Most recent accumulating (non Trace) snowfall: 2.0 on 12/23/22

Days with trace or more snow: 11/1/22 (1 inch), 11/28/22 (.80), 12/01/22 (T), 12/02/22 (T), 12/4/22 (.20), 12/5/22 (1.5), 12/14/22 (1.6), 12/18/22 (T), 12/19/22 (2.10), 12/20/22 (.10), 12/23/22 (2.0), 01/03/2023 (T), 1/22/23 (T)

First freeze: 11/3/22 (yes, after the first snowfall)

Coldest low: 0F (12/21/2022)

Last sub freezing high: 1/30/23

Last White Christmas: 2022 at my location  (I've also had a White Christmas in 2017 when I lived in Stanwood and a White Christmas at a hotel in Moscow, ID in 2020). 

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One thing to note is that any precipitation or any details to look at is a BONUS. The key ingredient is getting the Arctic airmass in place first, the details will then iron itself out. By looking at the overall trend (for now) and the ensembles, I feel a lot more confident this time around than what we saw last month in the intermediate range. 

But knock on wood, @GHweatherChrisracoons are always lurking. 

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1 minute ago, Brian_in_Leavenworth said:

I wouldn't say BC is torching.   Maybe Northern BC but not the South.

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Maybe just a Yukon torch. Btw I saw your post to NWS Spokane and way to go on the snow you got. Was there any significant melt today?

Garfield County/Pomeroy, WA:

2022-2023 snowfall totals: 9.3 inches

Highest snow total (per event): 2.20 inches (12/19/22 & 12/20/22)

Most recent accumulating (non Trace) snowfall: 2.0 on 12/23/22

Days with trace or more snow: 11/1/22 (1 inch), 11/28/22 (.80), 12/01/22 (T), 12/02/22 (T), 12/4/22 (.20), 12/5/22 (1.5), 12/14/22 (1.6), 12/18/22 (T), 12/19/22 (2.10), 12/20/22 (.10), 12/23/22 (2.0), 01/03/2023 (T), 1/22/23 (T)

First freeze: 11/3/22 (yes, after the first snowfall)

Coldest low: 0F (12/21/2022)

Last sub freezing high: 1/30/23

Last White Christmas: 2022 at my location  (I've also had a White Christmas in 2017 when I lived in Stanwood and a White Christmas at a hotel in Moscow, ID in 2020). 

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1 hour ago, TacomaWx said:

I don’t think most people even remember the December 2009 arctic blast. Pretty decent on the temps but no snowfall in an overall garbage winter. 09-10 and 15-16 are the only winters I’ve seen here not even manage to have snowflakes in the air. 

Dec 2009 was really cool here. I have memories of playing with my dad on the ice that never melted. Very dry but very, very cold.

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50" 🥳

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 4.75"*

-Most recent snowfall: 2”; December 20th, 2022

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

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