dairyd Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 00Z ECMWF control brought a low of 0F to Abbotsford within 10 days. I didn't even reach 0F in 2008. I don't know if it's been 0F or lower since I've been alive. Groundhog day storm 1989 we had 1F in Everson with 70-80mph winds. That's close. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuffradio Posted December 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 This is slightly OT, but I found this to be an interesting read about our climate almost 100 years ago. The article mentions a 40 degree drop in temps, I have to imagine they are talking in F. http://www.mapleridgenews.com/community/242450001.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 see my post above also... It all starts about Monday/TuesdayThanks! Also I see moisture has entered WASHINGTON!!!!! 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 This is slightly OT, but I found this to be an interesting read about our climate almost 100 years ago. The article mentions a 40 degree drop in temps, I have to imagine they are talking in F. http://www.mapleridgenews.com/community/242450001.html Throwback Thursday!!! 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 We lost the Euro.Looking better than the 00z to me. But honestly who cares? It's snowing outside!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 We lost the Euro. You messing with our very fragile emotions again? Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaya Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Typical Seattle NWS no passion 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.SNOWMIZER Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Typical Seattle NWS no passion Quote We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaya Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Job is to get it right...not wish cast or root for a solution. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Typical Seattle NWS no passion Could you write your own morning discussion...just for us? And not mention any change over to rain or any of that stuff! Just kidding, you guys do a great job, we are just all weenies. 2 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Looking better than the 00z to me.But honestly who cares? It's snowing outside!! looks pretty good to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Looking better than the 00z to me. But honestly who cares? It's snowing outside!! It's pretty insane. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goducks09 Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Looks like the back end of the moisture is around Corvallis, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Decent returns still having some issues making it too far north of the river. Should change fairly soon... Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dairyd Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 NWS is going to blow their forecast for northern WA. Only thing they have right is the wind advisory. It is howling right now...-16mb cywl-bli diff. Non-urban temps are still in the low 20's. EC's forecast wants up to 6" through Sat but it is just going to drift. If NWS was doing its public duty they would be issuing a blizzard warning for the north county as EC just did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goducks09 Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Woodburn looks to be the big winner so far...who woulda thunk it? Just a few miles north in Wilsonville, not much of anything... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 The 12z ECMWF continues the theme of improvement w/ the overall wavetrain, though it's almost certainly wrong with the extreme positive tilt of that trough axis and the corresponding southwesterly dig. Regardless it's a huge step in the right direction. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayla Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 850s drop to -16c at PDX and -17c at SEA on day 10 on the Euro. 1 Quote Cold Season 2023/24: Total snowfall: 26" Highest daily snowfall: 5" Deepest snow depth: 12" Coldest daily high: -20ºF Coldest daily low: -42ºF Number of subzero days: 5 Personal Weather Station on Wunderground: https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMTBOZEM152#history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroYoBro Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Snow has stopped here for the last 15 minutes. Radar returns have been healthier down south towards Woodburn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayla Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Where are you in relation to my location? I'm about to head home from university of Portland I'm south of you. Just off Skyline above Cornell on the ridge top and exposed big time to the east winds. Basically look right at the Fremont bridge and PDX from above. Quote Cold Season 2023/24: Total snowfall: 26" Highest daily snowfall: 5" Deepest snow depth: 12" Coldest daily high: -20ºF Coldest daily low: -42ºF Number of subzero days: 5 Personal Weather Station on Wunderground: https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMTBOZEM152#history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 I'm south of you. Just off Skyline above Cornell on the ridge top and exposed big time to the east winds. Basically look right at the Fremont bridge and PDX from above. Sounds purty. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jaya Posted December 8, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Could you write your own morning discussion...just for us? And not mention any change over to rain or any of that stuff! Just kidding, you guys do a great job, we are just all weenies. Well, I don't have access to everything that I'd like to look at.With that said, tonight will be tricky with the strong offshore flow. I've seen it go both ways. In one case in 2014 I believe, models showed drying and no precip. We got 2-3 inches from that in Seattle. In other cases, the dry air won. I'll see later. I'm a little concerned that outflow from the Fraser will keep the area NE of Bellingham in the cold for the foreseeable future. I'm not sure about the change to a mix or rain up there Except maybe near the water and south of the hills. Concerning the longer term...Monday is looking potentially interesting - but the moisture leaves before the cold air comes down. Time will tell. But it is looking cold. With the very cold air over western Canada and Alaska and the high latitude block along 150W, combined with some undercutting of the flow along 40N -W Wa will be in the middle of the battle zone. I really don't know the details on how the models are handling tropical moisture and convection at this time (model changes are happening at a fast pace), but very cold air nearby and moisture from the south could make things quite interesting over the next couple of weeks. The end of next week looks interesting. Models in this pattern tend to be quite unstable. Model riding is dangerous. It will be difficult to get things right even in the short term. 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvssnow_spokane Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 King Euro Delivers eye Candy for Christmas! 1 Quote My Weather Station https://tempestwx.com/station/61434 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Decent returns still having some issues making it too far north of the river. Should change fairly soon... I am north of the river! I can report that its not snowing here. In fact... its sunny and 27. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goducks09 Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 King Euro Delivers eye Candy for Christmas! ecmwf_T850_nwus_11.png Good lord. This is getting silly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 I am north of the river! I can report that its not snowing here. In fact... its sunny and 27. I just love it when a plan comes together! Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayla Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Sounds purty. Yeah we love it. Definitely really fortunate to be up here. Quote Cold Season 2023/24: Total snowfall: 26" Highest daily snowfall: 5" Deepest snow depth: 12" Coldest daily high: -20ºF Coldest daily low: -42ºF Number of subzero days: 5 Personal Weather Station on Wunderground: https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMTBOZEM152#history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.SNOWMIZER Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 King Euro Delivers eye Candy for Christmas! ecmwf_T850_nwus_11.pngPhoto shop. Quote We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perturbed Member Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Hmm, still really light stuff here. Just can't seem to get the good stuff that is happening further south. Need to saturate the airmass a bit more. Should hopefully happen soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvssnow_spokane Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Photo shop.Nope: http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=ecmwf®ion=nwus&pkg=T850&runtime=2016120812&fh=168&xpos=0&ypos=185 Quote My Weather Station https://tempestwx.com/station/61434 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Well, I don't have access to everything that I'd like to look at.With that said, tonight will be tricky with the strong offshore flow. I've seen it go both ways. In one case in 2014 I believe, models showed drying and no precip. We got 2-3 inches from that in Seattle. In other cases, the dry air won. I'll see later. I'm a little concerned that outflow from the Fraser will keep the area NE of Bellingham in the cold for the foreseeable future. I'm not sure about the change to a mix or rain up there Except maybe near the water and south of the hills. Concerning the longer term...Monday is looking potentially interesting - but the moisture leaves before the cold air comes down. Time will tell. But it is looking cold. With the very cold air over western Canada and Alaska and the high latitude block along 150W, combined with some undercutting of the flow along 40N -W Wa will be in the middle of the battle zone. I really don't know the details on how the models are handling tropical moisture and convection at this time (model changes are happening at a fast pace), but very cold air nearby and moisture from the south could make things quite interesting over the next couple of weeks. The end of next week looks interesting. Models in this pattern tend to be quite unstable. Model riding is dangerous. It will be difficult to get things right even in the short term. Awesome post, thanks. 1 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvssnow_spokane Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 18z HRRR has precip starting around 7-8PM tonight. Actually has some nice precip rates at 9PM (second image). Definitely not as shredded as previous runs showed. http://maps2.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/hrrr/2016120818/009/refcmp_ptype.us_nw.png http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/hrrr/2016120818/hrrr_ref_frzn_nwus_11.pngExcellent! the rain at my house looks outstanding. Love this run! Quote My Weather Station https://tempestwx.com/station/61434 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Well, I don't have access to everything that I'd like to look at.With that said, tonight will be tricky with the strong offshore flow. I've seen it go both ways. In one case in 2014 I believe, models showed drying and no precip. We got 2-3 inches from that in Seattle. In other cases, the dry air won. I'll see later. I'm a little concerned that outflow from the Fraser will keep the area NE of Bellingham in the cold for the foreseeable future. I'm not sure about the change to a mix or rain up there Except maybe near the water and south of the hills. Concerning the longer term...Monday is looking potentially interesting - but the moisture leaves before the cold air comes down. Time will tell. But it is looking cold. With the very cold air over western Canada and Alaska and the high latitude block along 150W, combined with some undercutting of the flow along 40N -W Wa will be in the middle of the battle zone. I really don't know the details on how the models are handling tropical moisture and convection at this time (model changes are happening at a fast pace), but very cold air nearby and moisture from the south could make things quite interesting over the next couple of weeks. The end of next week looks interesting. Models in this pattern tend to be quite unstable. Model riding is dangerous. It will be difficult to get things right even in the short term.Thanks so much!! I would have "liked" your post but I used them all up already today. If nothing else just having the possibilities and the setup for possible continued cold and snow is fantastic and something we haven't had much of over the last few years! Thanks for sharing your expertise with us! 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Raining now in south Salem Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvssnow_spokane Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Raining now in south SalemITS COMING!! Quote My Weather Station https://tempestwx.com/station/61434 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goducks09 Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Raining now in south Salem Well, crap. That was quick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Sleet here in N salem Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Raining now in south Salem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSUIQgEVDM4 2 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goducks09 Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Darker clouds looming over the south horizon in Downtown. Heavy stuff almost here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Snow Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/b5CMYo.gif 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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