jaster220 Posted November 19, 2022 Report Share Posted November 19, 2022 Legit January event! UPDATE... Issued at 135 PM EST Sat Nov 19 2022 Leading edge of initial snow burst was located along a Paw Paw to Ionia line around 120 PM. The GRR airport continues to experience visibility at or below a quarter mile as well as blowing/drifting snow. The leading edge of this snow burst will continue to move southeastward, reaching a Kalamazoo to Portland line shortly after 2 PM with similar conditions. 3 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted November 20, 2022 Report Share Posted November 20, 2022 77 inches of snow in Orchard Park, NY! This is a record for New York! 4 2 Quote Never say Never with Weather, because anything is possible! All observations are in Tecumseh, OK unless otherwise noted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcwxguy Posted November 20, 2022 Report Share Posted November 20, 2022 9 minutes ago, Iceresistance said: 77 inches of snow in Orchard Park, NY! This is a record for New York! they can send some this way, to get it out of the way lol 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted November 20, 2022 Report Share Posted November 20, 2022 What ever happened to the new Squall Warning. Lol, this reads a lot like a TOR warning with the highway mile marker break-down. 1st winter headline of the season for Wayne that I'm aware of. Special Weather Statement Special Weather Statement National Weather Service Detroit/Pontiac MI 743 PM EST Sat Nov 19 2022 MIZ068>070-075-076-200230- Livingston MI-Macomb MI-Oakland MI-Washtenaw MI-Wayne MI- 743 PM EST Sat Nov 19 2022 ...A BAND OF HEAVY SNOW WILL AFFECT LIVINGSTON...OAKLAND...MACOMB... WASHTENAW...AND WAYNE COUNTIES... HAZARDS...A band of heavy snow accompanied by winds of up to 30 MPH which can rapidly reduce visibility to near a quarter of a mile. Quick snow accumulation around 1 inch with localized totals near 2 inches by 1000 PM. LOCATION AND MOVEMENT...At 740 PM EST, a narrow band of heavy snow was along a line from Rochester to near Brighton to near Gregory and moving east at 35 MPH. THIS BAND OF HEAVY SNOW WILL BE NEAR... Troy around 740 PM EST. Sterling Heights around 745 PM EST. Mount Clemens and Dexter around 755 PM EST. Novi around 800 PM EST. Hamburg around 805 PM EST. Whitmore Lake around 810 PM EST. Birmingham and Dixboro around 820 PM EST. This includes the following highways... I-75 between mile markers 27 and 71. I-275 between mile markers 8 and 29. I-94 between mile markers 154 and 238. I-96 between mile markers 154 and 192. I-696 between mile markers 1 and 28. US-23 between mile markers 26 and 58. Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted November 20, 2022 Report Share Posted November 20, 2022 11 minutes ago, jaster220 said: What ever happened to the new Squall Warning. Lol, this reads a lot like a TOR warning with the highway mile marker break-down. 1st winter headline of the season for Wayne that I'm aware of. Special Weather Statement Special Weather Statement National Weather Service Detroit/Pontiac MI 743 PM EST Sat Nov 19 2022 MIZ068>070-075-076-200230- Livingston MI-Macomb MI-Oakland MI-Washtenaw MI-Wayne MI- 743 PM EST Sat Nov 19 2022 ...A BAND OF HEAVY SNOW WILL AFFECT LIVINGSTON...OAKLAND...MACOMB... WASHTENAW...AND WAYNE COUNTIES... HAZARDS...A band of heavy snow accompanied by winds of up to 30 MPH which can rapidly reduce visibility to near a quarter of a mile. Quick snow accumulation around 1 inch with localized totals near 2 inches by 1000 PM. LOCATION AND MOVEMENT...At 740 PM EST, a narrow band of heavy snow was along a line from Rochester to near Brighton to near Gregory and moving east at 35 MPH. THIS BAND OF HEAVY SNOW WILL BE NEAR... Troy around 740 PM EST. Sterling Heights around 745 PM EST. Mount Clemens and Dexter around 755 PM EST. Novi around 800 PM EST. Hamburg around 805 PM EST. Whitmore Lake around 810 PM EST. Birmingham and Dixboro around 820 PM EST. This includes the following highways... I-75 between mile markers 27 and 71. I-275 between mile markers 8 and 29. I-94 between mile markers 154 and 238. I-96 between mile markers 154 and 192. I-696 between mile markers 1 and 28. US-23 between mile markers 26 and 58. This Snow Band is dangerous as well! 1 Quote Never say Never with Weather, because anything is possible! All observations are in Tecumseh, OK unless otherwise noted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted November 20, 2022 Report Share Posted November 20, 2022 31 minutes ago, jcwxguy said: they can send some this way, to get it out of the way lol Not to me! The state would be absolutely paralyzed! February 1986 completely crippled Oklahoma City with 4-6 feet of snow (includes snow drifts)! 1 Quote Never say Never with Weather, because anything is possible! All observations are in Tecumseh, OK unless otherwise noted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted November 20, 2022 Report Share Posted November 20, 2022 18 minutes ago, Iceresistance said: This Snow Band is dangerous as well! It's here. Just peeked outside and it's pure rippage. I was in Saginaw earlier and heading back between 5 and 6 I had a light snow and it was causing big traffic congestions. Would not want to be out there in grid-lock during this. Vis likely under a 1/4 attm 1 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 20, 2022 Report Share Posted November 20, 2022 On 11/18/2022 at 5:16 PM, jaster220 said: So, apparently I had to leave for this to happen - sigh! Seriously tho, we had a few good LES events in my nearly 2 decades there but the BIGGIE LES events always failed. It looks like this one is going to be the one to deliver on the Warning headline (if not totally be the surprise over-achiever). GRR's pm AFD brings back fond memories of my winters of yore in NWMI. One event barely has time to end and the next is upon you. I-94 magnet seems to be a theme, not to mention they've not added 40 mph winds to the WSWarning. After a brief intermission, we will see a very rapid onset of a new round of snow across the northwest forecast area shortly after sunrise Saturday. This event will feature substantial synoptic lift thanks to a deepening and sharpening trough upstream and an associated cold front over Wisconsin that is already producing snow. Meanwhile, farther east over Lake Michigan, the boundary layer will quickly deepen with convective instability exceeding a depth of 10000 ft. This deep lake instability plume is expected to rapidly penetrate far inland, bringing with it an extremely fast onset of heavy snow and poor visibility that should extend northwest of a Muskegon to Clare line by the 9 AM time frame. This area of lake enhanced snow will expand very quickly so that by 1 PM its leading edge will extend approximately from the southwest tip of Lower Michigan to Lansing. Snowfall will be quite intense at this point across far southwest Lower MI. In fact, latest WPC guidance gives Grand Rapids 3-4 inches of snow between 1 PM and 7 PM Saturday. This is the kind of daytime snowfall rate one would expect in mid January instead of mid November. The contributing lake-induced fgen region mentioned previously now looks to be a bit more progressive than earlier thought thanks to the cold font moving in with more authority. Even so, it appears we should see a dominant and more purely lake effect band developing in its wake and persisting through much of Saturday night with heavy snowfall. Unfortunately, this band looks to be closely aligned with I-94, as is often the case in these scenarios. In contrast, areas farther north closer to US-10 we should see a gradual cessation of lake effect snow Saturday night around the same time things are staying interesting around I-94 as described above. In addition to accumulating snow through Saturday night, we are concerned about strong winds increasing the hazards of exposure to cold, poor visibility, and possibly drifting. Saturday`s daytime wind chills may actually be lowest over the southeast forecast area as this is where winds will be the strongest. Drifting of snow remains a concern, especially since we`ve already seen a hint of this here at the office. Woah! Kalamazoo got 19" from this event... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 14 hours ago, Tom said: Woah! Kalamazoo got 19" from this event... The US-131 corridor was ground zero - perfect distance inland to rake the best amounts. I've been mulling over comparisons to other Pre-Thanksgiving winter blasts since I came back to SMI circa 2002. This is the counter-balance to 11-22-15 which dumped 12-18" of concrete-mixer synoptic snow focused on SEMI. SWMI was barely touched by that. I was downtown Kalamazoo that Saturday evening after the storm and was quite surprised they only had like 4-5" while I had over a foot in Marshall. Most of The Mitt is covered in a blanket of snow today, even here! One solid winter day w/snow OTG courtesy of that weenie band yesterday late evening: The bigger picture: 2 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 10 hours ago, jaster220 said: The US-131 corridor was ground zero - perfect distance inland to rake the best amounts. I've been mulling over comparisons to other Pre-Thanksgiving winter blasts since I came back to SMI circa 2002. This is the counter-balance to 11-22-15 which dumped 12-18" of concrete-mixer synoptic snow focused on SEMI. SWMI was barely touched by that. I was downtown Kalamazoo that Saturday evening after the storm and was quite surprised they only had like 4-5" while I had over a foot in Marshall. Most of The Mitt is covered in a blanket of snow today, even here! One solid winter day w/snow OTG courtesy of that weenie band yesterday late evening: The bigger picture: It's been a long time since I've seen this much snow inundate Lower MI this early in the season. Hopefully the warmth this week won't eat away at all of the snow that's OTG in the harder hit areas. It's been a while to see GRR and KZOO ground zero for a heavy LES event. I'm sure there will be plenty more this season! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tStacsh Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 52 minutes ago, Tom said: It's been a long time since I've seen this much snow inundate Lower MI this early in the season. Hopefully the warmth this week won't eat away at all of the snow that's OTG in the harder hit areas. It's been a while to see GRR and KZOO ground zero for a heavy LES event. I'm sure there will be plenty more this season! It was a fun event indeed. Too bad it wasn't colder. The snow didn't accumulate as much on my driveway(maybe 5 inches) and sidewalks. The grass did ok but is already down to 9". ( I totaled 22.5" in the 4 days) Local Met expects most of the snow to be gone by the weekend. No snow in sight through the rest of Nov. (that could change obviously but not looking good). But an early taste of winter. WIsh it would last or get reinforced. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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