Grizzcoat Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 models are saying 3-4" here in C.IA just W of DSM. We will see. Flake size is going to have to improve if that is going to happen. Probably 3/4" on grassy areas as I drove into work. But this is over performing HRRR and RAP thus far.... Not big expectations for the first snow of the season... but take what nature throws down that's for sure!!! 3 1 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted November 15, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 Light snow is still falling this morning but it's melting faster than its falling now with a temp of 32. I don't think I ever had more than a 1 inch on the ground at any given time. It was good to see snow fall again and it has left a nice coating on the grass and trees. NWS office may have gotten a little more. NWS Kansas City 1.3" of snow here at the office in Pleasant Hill, MO so far. Still snowing as of midnight. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 Tucked in the NE corner of the Arrowhead of MN, the LES hit the shores on a S/SE wind producing some heft totals! 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westMJim Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 That is a rather unusual wind defection for Lake effect. I wonder how often over the years that has happened. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 14 minutes ago, westMJim said: That is a rather unusual wind defection for Lake effect. I wonder how often over the years that has happened. Having spent a lot of time up there over years ice fishing/ winter camping etc. - about 3-4 times a winter. More than you think. The great storm of early JAN 1994 was mainly lake effect- The folllowing are MN records - and occurred at Finland,MN (more specific than just Lake County)-- Most snow, 24 hours 36 inches (91 cm) January 7, 1994 Lake County Most snow, one storm 47 inches (119 cm) January 6–8, 1994 Lake County 2 1 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 Officially 2" at KDSM for the event- -- 1.6" since midnight. Slowly starting to stick on concrete but one tell the latent heat remaining (69F just 5 days ago) . 4" soil depths are still just slightly above 0C so slow melting is occurring even on grassy areas. 1.6" was .19 of liquid . So about 8.5:1 ratio. 5 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 @jaster220, even though the closed low that tracked into the S Plains yesterday is beginning to weaken, I don't mind to see the Double Barrel Low that is forming and will ultimately lead into a long duration event over the GL's/OHV. The blocking south of Hudson Bay is a prime location to slow down systems and "seed the cold" as we move into the heart of winter. The 2 separate low's (Gulf States and MW) is something I've seen a couple times already since OCT over our region and it's showing me that this will create long duration events more often than not this season. I'm diggin' it my man! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayhawker85 Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 Well it snowed 2 inches overnight but only about .25 inches of it stuck on the ground due to warm ground temps. Oh well it was good to see flakes to get into the season! 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westMJim Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 37 minutes ago, Grizzcoat said: Having spent a lot of time up there over years ice fishing/ winter camping etc. - about 3-4 times a winter. More than you think Thanks, that is more than I would have thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madtown Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 Just now, westMJim said: Thanks, that is more than I would have thought. Maybe not as heavy as this event, but lake enhancement happens with almost every clipper up that way as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakjen Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 Got 3.25” here already this morning. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttumwaSnomow Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 Surprisingly I have 2.5" on elevated surfaces like the patio chairs. Very little stuck on pavement surfaces. But northern part of Wapello county maybe a inch on some parking lots. Otherwise we got zero work from this. Temp hovered at 30 to 32 so far. 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FV-Mike Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 Glad to be back in the snow game this early. little over an inch so far 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 4.5" report in far SE Iowa. Wow. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 Looks like we have some overachievers from this system. Nice storm to kick off the season and many have their first 1” of snow pretty darn early this year! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tStacsh Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 Persistent Light snow here. Should see an inch or 2 out of this on elevated surfaces. Day time will limit accumulation. Roads should stay just wet all day. Decent start. Funny enough, Nov 15th is the average the last 30 years of first trace of snow. And here we are. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 @jaster220Radar shows all snow for Detroit, currently under a dry slot, but a nice batch from the south is making a b-line north towards us. 1 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 Currently at 34F w very light snow, but should pick up soon, especially tanite. Couple of inches looking very likely. 2 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FV-Mike Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 Some bigger numbers coming out of the south suburbs Downers Grove 3.1 Bolingbrook 3.5 Clarendon Hills 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabel23 Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 Light snow leading to pixy dust blowing around. Gives me a nice winter feel at least! The ground temp is plenty cold as there is no melting what so ever. It's almost tundra like with how cold we have been. Nov. might go down as one of the coldest in recent memory. Now hopefully we can get something good moving forward this year! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 MPX only going with 1-2" for this second round. Snow has slowly increased. Temp has risen to 31. Not expecting much out of this but we'll see. Roads should stay mainly wet unless we get some high rates going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westMJim Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 3 hours ago, Madtown said: Maybe not as heavy as this event, but lake enhancement happens with almost every clipper up that way as well. In east Michigan there is a lot of lake enhancement with a east and northeast wind off Lake Huron. And true lake effect with a east and north east wind. In the thumb with a north wind but seldom in November more so in late December and January. Anyway it is good to know that in the arrow head area a south and southeast wind can also produce a good lake effect. Here in my area the best lake effect happens with a W or WSW and WNW wind and almost no lake effect with a NW wind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Niko said: @jaster220Radar shows all snow for Detroit, currently under a dry slot, but a nice batch from the south is making a b-line north towards us. Stepped out at 7:15 to -SN and roofs cars and grass coated so technically I'm "on the board" with 0.1" for the season. Over-acheiver in mby for sure! At least we're lowering soil temps. 2 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 My total is 1.4". It's still snowing very lightly, but it's being countered by compaction/melt. 1 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 Our snow is melting. Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 Not much to talk about up in the TC. Light snow all day but not really accumulating. 32-33° has ruined that. In fact, we've lost a bit from what fell yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tStacsh Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 Probably received 2-2.5" so far. But some has melted. Still snowing decent and nearing sundown. So it should accumulate a little easier throughout the evening. They expect it to snow (lightly) through most of the night. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted November 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 Snowfall totals from last nights snow. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 It did a lot drizzling today in the city. Had a briefly decent flip to sizeable flakes, but it stopped about as quickly as it started. Was nice to look at while it lasted. Some more almost snow has been falling this evening at 34F. Had a little "wiper pile" on my windshield and pinging of the face. Will be forced to ditch the shoulder season jacket by Friday with temps going solid winter on us. Glad for all that measured snow outta this. 3 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 Aviation update says I will have to be on the lookout to increase my event total: Intervals of higher intensity snow post nightfall could result in accumulation of 1 inch or less on unpaved surfaces and elevated surfaces during the evening peak as temperature struggles to remain above freezing. IFR conditions gradually transition into MVFR as snow ends and westerly wind increases toward sunrise. DTW THRESHOLD PROBABILITIES... * High for ceiling 5000 ft or less tonight and Wednesday. * High for snow precipitation type tonight. 3 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 Light snow atm. Grass surfaces have a light coating. Temp at 33F and the radar looks good w a decent amount of moisture. 2 1 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madtown Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 Light snow all day, around 3" on the ground...looks like winter thats for sure! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 Going to squeeze another inch out of this-! maybe more if radar trends continue. 3.3" for the event and it looks like the dead of winter out there right now with a fluffier snow falling and blowing around!! 5 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 And there is this- a warm up no doubt is coming and I think lasts longer than many think, but i don't think a DEC like 2014 is coming when DEC laid a an egg after a memorable Nov. I think after the 10th it's more like Dec of 2008 / 2010. 000 SXUS73 KDMX 160811 RERDSM RECORD EVENT REPORT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DES MOINES IA 1256 AM CST WED NOV 16 2022 ...RECORD DAILY MAXIMUM SNOWFALL SET AT DES MOINES IA... A RECORD SNOWFALL OF 2.7 INCHES WAS SET AT DES MOINES IA YESTERDAY. THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 2.0 INCHES SET IN 2014. THIS IS A CORRECTION TO THE PREVIOUS RECORD STATEMENT SENT EARLIER WHICH WAS THE 24HR SNOWFALL, NOT THE DAILY TOTAL. THE DAILY SNOWFALL YESTERDAY, NOVEMBER 15TH, 2022 WAS 2.7 INCHES WHICH STILL SETS A NEW DAILY SNOWFALL RECORD AT DES MOINES. 4 1 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 A nice snow band has setup right along the I-80 corridor from around Iowa City to Davenport. Looking outside it looks like we got about an inch of snow on grassy surfaces and it’s still snowing decent. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 Posted this Yesterday 5 Quote Never say Never with Weather, because anything is possible! All observations are in Tecumseh, OK unless otherwise noted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKEKC Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 The first snow of the season in KC was a minor one. Most of the city saw less than a half inch and most of it was gone by 10am yesterday morning. I think it snowed 2 inches, just too warm as temps stayed around 33-34. I had just enough to make it look wintry outside. Cold the next few days and it appears that we will start the warm-up this weekend and head right into a warmer pattern all of next week. Storm? GFS had one, but, its gone on the current data. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 It is STILL snowing lightly. This has to be at least 3 days in a row that it is snowing. Temp dropped a couple degrees overnight and it looks like we have more accumulation. I'll have to go measure in a while. Trees are all covered. Looks like a winter wonderland! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted November 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 20 minutes ago, MIKEKC said: The first snow of the season in KC was a minor one. Most of the city saw less than a half inch and most of it was gone by 10am yesterday morning. I think it snowed 2 inches, just too warm as temps stayed around 33-34. I had just enough to make it look wintry outside. Cold the next few days and it appears that we will start the warm-up this weekend and head right into a warmer pattern all of next week. Storm? GFS had one, but, its gone on the current data. I heard Lezak say they will be doing their winter forecast on the 30th. Sign of cycle 2 have been showing up in the long range just after Thanksgiving. It would be nice to get another storm or 2 into the pattern. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayhawker85 Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 16 minutes ago, Clinton said: I heard Lezak say they will be doing their winter forecast on the 30th. Sign of cycle 2 have been showing up in the long range just after Thanksgiving. It would be nice to get another storm or 2 into the pattern. This is what i was referring to the other day. I would love for another good storm or 2 in the pattern through the Midwest with this pattern. I’m not overly encouraged with this weather pattern for winter in the kc region with this LRC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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