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Dan the Weatherman, on 12 Feb 2017 - 4:45 PM, said:

In CA, it has definitely been "A" material for the vast majority of the state with much-needed rain and snow for drought relief. However, Ventura and Santa Barbara Counties and vicinity have still been a bit drier, so I will give that area a "B" so far. The reservoirs in that area, especially Lake Cachuma are still quite low as of right now. Hopefully that changes later this month and into March with that area getting some heavier storms.

 

If the forecast holds for Santa Barbara/ Ventura counties than Lake Cachuma will fill up unless there is extreme rain shadowing.

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Eujunga, on 14 Feb 2017 - 7:07 PM, said:

Really, I can only give the SoCal winter a B-minus so far, but maybe I'm just a tough grader.

 

First of all, although area rainfall has been OK overall, my particular location is only a little above average at around 13 inches total so far this season.

 

More importantly, for a winter to get an A grade from me, there must be multiple bouts of cold weather and low-level snowfall.  Overall temperatures this winter have run a bit above average.  My lowest temperature has been 35, which is pretty mediocre.  There has been only one storm that dropped snow as low as 4000 feet.

 

Winters such as 1972-1973, 1978-1979, and 1997-1998 set the bar much higher.

 

On the report card, I might say "shows some improvement but performance could be better yet."

 

You are right that our rain totals aren't necessarily spectacular but after 6 years of drought it is a big improvement. Temps haven't been very cold at night due to cloud cover. 

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C-

 

Too cold, not enough snow to show for it. Cold anomalies are a complete waste of time.

 

Honestly, it's pretty despicable to cheer for cold weather. Far more people are killed from exposure in the cold than those who die from heat related injuries. Have some ******* empathy for your fellow human beings, perhaps.

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B+ for temps

C for total snowfall. 8" on the winter so far but the problem each time we got several inches half of it would melt for 24hrs before we could freeze for a day or two. Very frustrating. Plus I am used to easy double digit snow totals during a good winter here, it was quite pathetic how my area got missed as areas to my north, south, east, and even west got much more.

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Best winter of the 6 I've been up here. Easily best winter for Salem since 92-93

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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Best winter of the 6 I've been up here. Easily best winter for Salem since 92-93.

 

How much do you think most of the area got?

 

Regardless of exact totals, 2016-17, 2013-14, and 2008-09 were all better winters for the Salem area than anything else since 1992-93. Real bad stretch from 1993-2007.

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This would easily be an A+ for Klamath Falls.

 

This winter has surprised locals who have been here for decades.

We saw our most 1 day snow since Jan 1993, and one of the 5 coldest temperatures ever at KLMT all within the first week of January 2017.

Another strong point was diversity. This season kicked off right after an incredibly warm November. After my huge January storm and arctic temps, the depth of 21.00" I had built up quickly went down to a mere handful of inches after a few rainy days. February then goes to be another warmer than normal month while still providing lots of snow.

 

Another thing too I noticed is that I am 4 consecutive months over average snowfall in a row. It has been more than a decade since that last happened.

 

Lastly... WIND! It was extremely windy, not just this winter alone but even since October, Klamath Basin has been battered by numerous wind events. For now lately it has sort of quieted down but it seemed like for a while, there was never going to be an end to it. 

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Ashland, KY Weather

'23-'24 Winter

Snowfall - 5.50"
First freeze: 11/1 (32)
Minimum: 2 on 1/17

Measurable snows: 4
Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19)

Thunders: 11
1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15
3/26, 

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I'll rate it A-

 

The cons are mostly minor things though but a real Arctic blast with single digit temps would have been excellent.

 

Pros:

-Hardly any foggy days

-Lots of sun

-Some good heavy rain events but not endless stretches

-Lots of snow. I stopped counting... 

-Sustained cold which is the most surprising thing to me

 

Cons:

-No blizzards

-No extremely heavy snowfall

-Lots of non-accumulating snowfall

-Snow that fell was pretty wet most of the time

-No extreme cold or even temperatures below 15-20F

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Couple detailed things I neglected to mention. While it was snowing Jan 3rd/4th, it started in the single digits in temps and continued in the teens. Altogether was a completely different snow than I ever remember here. The par for the course would be 28-32 degree snow, and almost no wind. I did legitimately also get a couple real blizzards here. (one of them surprisingly occurred in this month so far in March!!).

 

I may not be a big fan of winter but there were definitely things that I consider memorable this season. 

 

Now, may there be pineapples before the warm season kicks in.  :P

Winter did more than it's part this time around. 

 

If March goes and pulls off a 2012.. I'll add another "+" to my A+ rank. 

Ashland, KY Weather

'23-'24 Winter

Snowfall - 5.50"
First freeze: 11/1 (32)
Minimum: 2 on 1/17

Measurable snows: 4
Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19)

Thunders: 11
1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15
3/26, 

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I'd give it an A in Bend so far. Our winter is winding down, but I'll wait out March before a complete breakdown.

 

70" of snow with a max depth of 31". 75 or so consecutive days of snowcover, 92 consecutive now with partial snowcover in my yard. December and January were amazing, but we were just on the warm side in February compared to places up north. Had February been a bit colder and with about 5-10 more inches it would have been an A+.

Bend, OR

Elevation: 3550'

 

Snow History:

Nov: 1"

Dec: .5"

Jan: 1.9"

Feb: 12.7"

Mar: 1.0"

Total: 17.1"

 

2016/2017: 70"

2015/2016: 34"

Average: ~25"

 

2017/2018 Winter Temps

Lowest Min: 1F on 2/23

Lowest Max: 23F on 12/24, 2/22

Lows <32: 87

Highs <32: 13

 

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I'm upgrading my winter to an A-, since it's basically almost set in stone that we will break 5 feet of snow. If it was a tad warmer during January and December and a little colder in February(for consistent snow cover and reaching 2'+ on the ground) this would be an A winter.

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I've been waffling between a B+ and an A-, but I'm keeping it at a B+ for now. If I were a total stat freak, I'd easily give it an A- or maybe even an A, but these days I'm more interested in extreme events. Stuff like mean temperatures or the number of days with snow or sub-freezing highs (although important factors) don't impress me quite as much, but it's been a very good winter by those measures.

 

I've had at least 30 days with snow in the air, and 26 of those with measurable snow (defined as .1" or more). However, the majority of those days featured very wet, slushy snow that often changed over to rain. The number of days with quality snow was far lower (probably fewer than 10).

 

The lack of any top tier arctic air masses is the main reason I'm sticking with a B+. I still managed 21 days with sub-freezing highs, but many of those were just barely below freezing.

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I've been waffling between a B+ and an A-, but I'm keeping it at a B+ for now. If I were a total stat freak, I'd easily give it an A- or maybe even an A, but these days I'm more interested in extreme events. Stuff like mean temperatures or the number of days with snow or sub-freezing highs (although important factors) don't impress me quite as much, but it's been a very good winter by those measures.

 

I've had at least 30 days with snow in the air, and 26 of those with measurable snow (defined as .1" or more). However, the majority of those days featured very wet, slushy snow that often changed over to rain. The number of days with quality snow was far lower (probably fewer than 10).

 

The lack of any top tier arctic air masses is the main reason I'm sticking with a B+. I still managed 21 days with sub-freezing highs, but many of those were just barely below freezing.

Really interesting how you had 30 snow days and 26 of them stuck but most of those were wet. I would guess I had about ~25 snow days, 5 didn't stick, 5 were wet(3 of them in March), 15 were dry to very dry.

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Upping my grade to a D, though I'm probably being generous..

 

Recent storm was interesting simply due to the incredible amount of sleet it dropped here within such a short timeframe, and the incredible snow totals in NY/New England, up to 58". We ended up with a 5" glacier than you could walk/jump on without falling through, and 40-60mph winds to go along with it.

 

Also, once again we've observed historic cold in March. After numerous all-time late-season cold records were broken in March of 2014, we've now broken those 2014 records, and some additional records dating back to the early/mid 1800s, just after the Dalton minimum.

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Also, it's interesting to note that over the last 100+ years, the climate system continues to maintain the boreal NH winter circulation later into the spring, by an average of ~ 2 weeks now versus the mid/late 1800s. This has reduced the aggregate poleward transfer of heat and mass, relative to that of momentum, and has slightly delayed the start of the aggregate NH melt season above 75N, by ~ 10 days on average, contrary to popular belief.

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Coldest temperatures of winter

I thought there were several locations across eastern OR that were more than -20 below.

Bend, OR

Elevation: 3550'

 

Snow History:

Nov: 1"

Dec: .5"

Jan: 1.9"

Feb: 12.7"

Mar: 1.0"

Total: 17.1"

 

2016/2017: 70"

2015/2016: 34"

Average: ~25"

 

2017/2018 Winter Temps

Lowest Min: 1F on 2/23

Lowest Max: 23F on 12/24, 2/22

Lows <32: 87

Highs <32: 13

 

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I would give the winter a final overall ranking of A-. For cold and snow it was probably more in the B+ range, but the long duration of snow cover and coveted clear snow covered/sub-freezing days pushed it into A- range for me. Definitely the most complete winter of the 6 I have been up here. 2011-12 had the snow, 2013-14 had intense cold, but this one had both. Snowiest event, that first weekend of March, coldest day 24/13 on January on January 5th. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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I thought there were several locations across eastern OR that were more than -20 below.

 

Not a very accurate map it would seem. Reached -35º here in December.

Cold Season 2023/24:

Total snowfall: 26"

Highest daily snowfall: 5"

Deepest snow depth: 12"

Coldest daily high: -20ºF

Coldest daily low: -42ºF

Number of subzero days: 5

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Kayla, on 20 Mar 2017 - 9:00 PM, said:Kayla, on 20 Mar 2017 - 9:00 PM, said:

Not a very accurate map it would seem. Reached -35º here in December.

 

A broad-brush that doesn't include localized minimums, no doubt. For example, isolated below freezing temps were observed in metro LA not indicated on the map.

 

Astronomical winter ended warm/ dry w/ above normal temps and only one day of rainfall during the first 20 days of March.

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C- , only saw 4 inches total all winter everything went south or east of me.

Same amount Aumsville/Stayton area got.  I think that's a pretty good score.  I might be generous and give it a B- because of the fact nearby hills kept snow cover for so long meaning it wasn't very far to drive to actually see decent accumulations.

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I think my final call will be a B-. December and January were great with frequent heavy snowstorms and below normal temperatures. That section of winter would be a solid A. However, nov as well as both feb and march were blowtorchs and so the winter ended above normal. We haven't had any significant snow since March 5th, which is quite unusual, and both Feb and March were way below normal snow wise. 

 

We also had no significant east winds storms, although we did finally have a very modest one the other day. There were no major lake effect snow events either. Some pluses include the coldest temperature since 1996 I believe, and the wettest March day in history (6th all-time). I think to me that adds up to a B-. 

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Winter 23-24: Total Snow (3.2")    Total Ice (0.2")     Coldest Low: 1F     Coldest High: 5F

Snow Events: 0.1" Jan 5th, 0.2" Jan 9th, 1.6" Jan 14, 0.2" (ice) Jan 22, 1.3" Feb 12

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C-

 

A non event.

Not really worth mentioning.

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Tonight might move this up to an A. Not sure what criteria to use. If we get 7"+ definitely going there snowiest day an April on record would definitely put us there. I think some other scenarios should qualify this winter too, maybe it depends on how I feel after I see snow(if any).

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