Jesse Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Take a deep breath. Some of us like cold and dark weather, and would like to somehow magically have the climate of the Faeroes transplanted over our homes. I looked up their climo and we are pretty close November-March. The rest of the year is way warmer here on average, though, which I'm ok with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VancouverIslandSouth Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Feeling some deja vu on this one, looks very similar to the setup that was predicted last Sunday. That one turned out to be a dud, this will probably be even more marginal so we'll see. Otherwise, things look pretty unremarkable on the 0z GFS; incredible how different this is from the ECMWF. http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2017030200/gfs_mslp_pcpn_frzn_nwus_14.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 You can sure why the ECMWF took the path it did. Not the most likely outcome, but still possible. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 About the best pattern you could ask for for widespread lowland snow in March. Especially later on in the run. Very 1951-esque. One thing Tim didn't mention about April 1951 is the abnormally cold nights. There are places near Seattle that dropped to 20 well into the month. Bothell had 20 mins of freezing or below. It would be interesting to follow that year. 1951-52 was a cold weak Nino winter. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Feeling some deja vu on this one, looks very similar to the setup that was predicted last Sunday. That one turned out to be a dud, this will probably be even more marginal so we'll see. Otherwise, things look pretty unremarkable on the 0z GFS; incredible how different this is from the ECMWF. http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2017030200/gfs_mslp_pcpn_frzn_nwus_14.png Probably a shot of a few inches of snow up here, and not a ton more...Depends on moisture. About a 48 hour window for accumulating snow. Definitely not looking like anything more significant than last weekend, though maybe slightly cooler. So could put up and impressively cold 35/30 type day here Sunday. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 One thing Tim didn't mention about April 1951 is the abnormally cold nights. There are places near Seattle that dropped to 20 well into the month. Bothell had 20 mins of freezing or below. It would be interesting to follow that year. 1951-52 was a cold weak Nino winter. I did say the month featured many warm days and cool nights. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Maybe the Euro will stay on the historic train but I wouldn't hold my breath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 The WRF shows it certainly cold enough for snow Sunday morning with moisture moving through. Looks like a pretty good setup. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 The WRF shows it certainly cold enough for snow Sunday morning with moisture moving through. Looks like a pretty good setup. Pretty wide swath of snow shown for southern BC that morning. A lot of uncertainty in the GFS ensembles but they definitely leave the door open for a mid month cold snap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Lots of ensemble spread. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 WRF showing some light snow Salem/South early Sunday morning http://www.atmos.washington.edu/wrfrt/data/current_gfs/images_d3/or_snow24.84.0000.gif 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epiceast Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 WRF showing some light snow Salem/South early Sunday morning http://www.atmos.washington.edu/wrfrt/data/current_gfs/images_d3/or_snow24.84.0000.gifAccumulating snow in March in PNW is by definition heavy snow. At least the rates are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SilverFallsAndrew Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Accumulating snow in March in PNW is by definition heavy snow. At least the rates are.Where is our friend Heavy Snow to weigh in when we need him. 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Accumulating snow in March in PNW is by definition heavy snow. At least the rates are. Accumulating March snow is extremely common in the PNW. Just not in the lowlands below 1000'. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epiceast Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Accumulating March snow is extremely common in the PNW. Just not in the lowlands below 1000'.Yea, the semantics always get me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VancouverIslandSouth Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 The 0z ECMWF seems to be heading in a cold direction again: http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/ecmwf/2017030200/ecmwf_z500_mslp_namer_5.png 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Those euro snow maps wow Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Yea, the semantics always get me.Have you had a chance to see tech9 in concert lately? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sounder Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 With any luck, I think there wont be any more accumulating snow in most lowland locations this season. We can only hope!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epiceast Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Have you had a chance to see tech9 in concert lately?I've stopped listening to tech9 years ago(well except maybe I'll listen to a new song here and there cause my friends still listen to it). It's probably ironic to you but i primarily listen to EDM now, and a little bit of rock as my second favorite genre(which probably was true most of my life actually). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Notably more cold ensembles on the 0z GFS. A number of them have an incredibly long cold snap. Could happen. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epiceast Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 King EURO Alert!!! He takes what he gives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighlandExperience Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Those euro snow maps wowPost wxbell maps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 I've stopped listening to tech9 years ago(well except maybe I'll listen to a new song here and there cause my friends still listen to it). It's probably ironic to you but i primarily listen to EDM now, and a little bit of rock as my second favorite genre(which probably was true most of my life actually).That doesn't seem ironic to me. I like some EDM too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Post wxbell mapsThey aren't super exciting. Trace to 2 or 3" thru day 7 for the Sound. Then another inch or 2 at days 9-10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbrChris Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Praying to Snow Jebus for your blizzard.More 70 degree weather in Philly! I'd take that over 40 degree rain. 1 Quote The Pacific Northwest: Where storms go to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 12km NAM give the south sound some snow Sunday morning. Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Some snow trying to sneak down into the lowland on Friday night per the 4km NAM. And 3km Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 With any luck, I think there wont be any more accumulating snow in most lowland locations this season. We can only hope!!Speak for yourself, troll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FroYoBro Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 GFS alert I think I'm missing the big alert. Looks pretty similar to other runs, doesn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 I think I'm missing the big alert. Looks pretty similar to other runs, doesn't it? Much colder for the end of next week compared to its 00Z run. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 I think I'm missing the big alert. Looks pretty similar to other runs, doesn't it?I don't know if everyone has picked up on it yet...but Andrew lies here for fun. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Much colder for the end of next week compared to its 00Z run.Generally cooler overall for next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroYoBro Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Much colder for the end of next week compared to its 00Z run. Ah. I wasn't looking that far out. Still doesn't look too exciting to me. I think March should be the end of GFS alerts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Gfs shows 6" over pdx in the next 100 hours 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Gfs shows 6" over pdx in the next 100 hours Bingo! Thank you for actually looking at the models and not saying something absolutely inane like "Andrew lies here just for fun." Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 I don't know if everyone has picked up on it yet...but Andrew lies here for fun. Wow, seriously. Maybe you should actually look at the models like Timmy did before you mouth off like an idiot. I have no idea why you have to make comments like that. 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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