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33 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

You have a somewhat realistic chance of scoring with this.   Most places not so much.  Too bad the trough is going to dig so far west.  Starting next week though the cold really settles in here.

Honestly Jim the rain to snow events don't excite me like they used too. I'd take quality over quantity.  A couple inches of power for everone and 18 degrees is all we need  

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BTW we could make up for June 2021 with a long duration / extreme cold event also.  We have had much longer sustained bouts of cold than extreme heat in the past.  Something like 10 days of highs in the 20s and lows of 5 to 20.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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1 minute ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

Honestly Jim the rain to snow events don't excite me like they used too. I'd take quality over quantity.  A couple inches of power for everone and 18 degrees is all we need  

No doubt the dry snow events are much more enjoyable.  The stuff you currently have makes a great base though.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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27 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

Oh my god... The absolute pandemonium that would ensue on this forum if we even approached the equal and opposite equivalent of June 2021. It would be staggering. The sheer levels of ween would be intoxicating.

And given the cold bias on the GFS, its runs would be frighteningly even colder. -20s in the central Willamette. -15F at KSEA.

I think Tim’s pipes burst just at the thought of that one 12z Euro verifying last December. 

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10 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

BTW we could make up for June 2021 with a long duration / extreme cold event also.  We have had much longer sustained bouts of cold than extreme heat in the past.  Something like 10 days of highs in the 20s and lows of 5 to 20.

If we could get an Alaska block to lock in the sweet spot for that long I could definitely see that happening. I always wonder how Feb 2019 would have gone had that set up happened during early Jan. I feel like I would have had some single digit lows during that. I had two 10 degree mins during that.

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2023 - 2024 Cold Season Stats

Total Snowfall - 0.75”

Max Snow Depth - 0.5”

Coldest High Temp - 21 (Jan 13)

Coldest Low Temp - 9 (Jan 13)

Number of Freezes - 48

Sub-40 highs - 12

Highs 32 or lower - 3

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16 minutes ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

Honestly Jim the rain to snow events don't excite me like they used too. I'd take quality over quantity.  A couple inches of power for everone and 18 degrees is all we need  

It’s been almost nineteen years since we’ve had snow falling at that temperature here. Came close in 2008 and 2014.

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1 minute ago, Deweydog said:

I think Tim’s pipes burst just at the thought of that one 12z Euro verifying last December. 

My water pipes can think?    Amazing.

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28 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

BTW we could make up for June 2021 with a long duration / extreme cold event also.  We have had much longer sustained bouts of cold than extreme heat in the past.  Something like 10 days of highs in the 20s and lows of 5 to 20.

Portland's 8 consecutive highs in the 10s in January 1909 still blows my mind.

This month it will have been 32 years since their last one.

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1 minute ago, BLI snowman said:

Portland's 8 consecutive highs in the 10s in January 1909 still blows my mind.

This month it will have been 32 years since their last one.

Only six sub 25 degree highs sprinkled in there, and of course none since 2014 which I imagine is an unprecedented stretch.  

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2 hours ago, Snownerd3000 said:

This would cripple the region

Not to mention the Friday before Christmas.

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Garfield County/Pomeroy, WA:

2023-2024 Snowfall totals: 14.3 inches

HIghest snow total (per event): 5.8 inches total 1/11/24 - 1/12/24.

Most recent accumulation (non trace): 0.20 inches on 2/26/24

Days with  trace or more snowfall: 12/01/23 (0.60), 1/8/24 (1.0), 1/10/24 (3.5), 1/11/23 (3.5 inches with Thundersnow; separate event from prior day), 1/12/24 (2.30). 1/14/24 (T), 1/17/24 (1.20 inches), 1/18/24 (1.5 inches), 1/19/24 (0.20), 2/09/24 (0.30), 2/26/24 (0.20-mainly graupel)

First Freeze: 10/27/2023

Last Sub freezing Day: 1/20/24 (12th) (8 days in a row from 1/12/24-1/20/24)

Coldest low: -12F (!!!!!!!!) (1/12/24)

Last White Christmas: 2022 at my location (on ground)

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2 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

Only six sub 25 degree highs sprinkled in there, and of course none since 2014 which I imagine is an unprecedented stretch.  

Oh yeah.

In fact, their coldest high since 2014 is 28. A streak of 3225 days (soon to be 3226 😧) .

Next longest 28+ streak was 2193 days from January 1943 to January 1949. Obvious analog.

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6 minutes ago, Iceresistance said:

I may get the DEEP FEEEZE at the end of this month! The GFS has gone insane with below zero temperatures before Christmas!

Wow hoping for a deep feeeze here as well 🤧🙏

"Let's mosey!"

 

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Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014):

 

(1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.

(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches

(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches

(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches

(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches

 

Honourable Mentions: December 7th, 2018, February 9th, 2019.

 

Total since joining the Weather Forums: 3"

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2 minutes ago, LowerGarfield said:

Not to mention the Friday before Christmas.

I remember the pandemonium on 12/20/08 when the snow started flying, roads and parking lots were already the equivalent to a frozen rutted cow pasture, then new snow started falling on that compact snow and ice add in the mix of Christmas shopping and it was insane! Took me 2 hours to go 10 miles just to get to the Smokey Point Lowe’s. 

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6 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

Oh yeah.

In fact, their coldest high since 2014 is 28. A streak of 3225 days (soon to be 3226 😧) .

Next longest 28+ streak was 2193 days from January 1943 to January 1949. Obvious analog.

At this point it’d kinda suck not to at least make it to 5,715 and break Nolan Ryan’s record.

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18 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

Portland's 8 consecutive highs in the 10s in January 1909 still blows my mind.

This month it will have been 32 years since their last one.

I think if I had to pick my top 3 blasts to experience it would be 1) December 1919 2) January 1909 3) January 1930. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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16 minutes ago, Iceresistance said:

I may get the DEEP FEEEZE at the end of this month! The GFS has gone insane with below zero temperatures before Christmas!

I'll be in BARTLESVILLE next week!

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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McMinnville, OR allegedly hit -24 during the December 1919 BLAST. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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1 minute ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

Snow melt today here was obvious. Still 9 inches and hit 40 degrees for the first time since the 26th. Impressive cold spell.

My little snowpack took a major hit today. 

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14 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

I think if I had to pick my top 3 blasts to experience it would be 1) December 1919 2) January 1909 3) January 1930. 

1919 would be #1 for me as well due to the combination of the massive blizzard followed by the crazy PV soaked cold. -15 to -20F temps were pretty common in the favored outlying spots.

January 1888 would be #2 due to the fact that it very likely was the absolute single coldest arctic airmass on record in our region. Like December 1968 but shifted a few hundred miles further SW. Not the snowiest but we did have a foot here on the overrunning end of it.

 

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5 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

1919 would be #1 for me as well due to the combination of the massive blizzard followed by the crazy PV soaked cold. -15 to -20F temps were pretty common in the favored outlying spots.

January 1888 would be #2 due to the fact that it very likely was the absolute single coldest arctic airmass on record in our region. Like December 1968 but shifted a few hundred miles further SW. Not the snowiest but we did have a foot here on the overrunning end of it.

 

What were the numbers spat out by Jan 1888?

Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"

-2023-24*: 0.25"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

-Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31

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