PNW December 2022, winter might be coming; but mostly canceled.

[Requiem]

6 minutes ago, Iceresistance said:

I may get the DEEP FEEEZE at the end of this month! The GFS has gone insane with below zero temperatures before Christmas!

Wow hoping for a deep feeeze here as well

[MossMan]

2 minutes ago, LowerGarfield said:

Not to mention the Friday before Christmas.

I remember the pandemonium on 12/20/08 when the snow started flying, roads and parking lots were already the equivalent to a frozen rutted cow pasture, then new snow started falling on that compact snow and ice add in the mix of Christmas shopping and it was insane! Took me 2 hours to go 10 miles just to get to the Smokey Point Lowe’s. 

[Deweydog]

6 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

Oh yeah.

In fact, their coldest high since 2014 is 28. A streak of 3225 days (soon to be 3226 ) .

Next longest 28+ streak was 2193 days from January 1943 to January 1949. Obvious analog.

At this point it’d kinda suck not to at least make it to 5,715 and break Nolan Ryan’s record.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

18 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

Portland's 8 consecutive highs in the 10s in January 1909 still blows my mind.

This month it will have been 32 years since their last one.

I think if I had to pick my top 3 blasts to experience it would be 1) December 1919 2) January 1909 3) January 1930. 

[Terreboner]

6 minutes ago, Brian_in_Leavenworth said:

Hes been tweeting photos from Hawaii.  He didn't outright say he was there, but he's there. 

Oh ya, forgot he was going there.  Makes sense now.

[Winterdog]

34 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

My water pipes can think?    Amazing.

Sure.  Haven't you ever heard of a pipe dream?

[SilverFallsAndrew]

16 minutes ago, Iceresistance said:

I may get the DEEP FEEEZE at the end of this month! The GFS has gone insane with below zero temperatures before Christmas!

I'll be in BARTLESVILLE next week!

[Front Ranger]

1 hour ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

I just want to mention the CFS is NOT on board. 

Best news all day!

[Cloud]

Fun times ahead!

[SilverFallsAndrew]

McMinnville, OR allegedly hit -24 during the December 1919 BLAST. 

[BLI snowman]

13 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

At this point it’d kinda suck not to at least make it to 5,715 and break Nolan Ryan’s record.

Wonder if the vaunted <32 at EUG will happen first.

[thickhog]

8 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

McMinnville, OR allegedly hit -24 during the December 1919 BLAST. 

They probably thought it was a sign of the 2nd coming

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

Snow melt today here was obvious. Still 9 inches and hit 40 degrees for the first time since the 26th. Impressive cold spell.

[Iceresistance]

13 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

I'll be in BARTLESVILLE next week!

That is north of Tulsa on US-75!

[Terreboner]

10 minutes ago, Cloud said:

Fun times ahead!

Looks like some pacific sliders heading into California.  You know how they always trend north :).  I will sacrifice some temperature for some snow.

[Deweydog]

5 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

Wonder if the vaunted <32 at EUG will happen first.

23/-7 nine years ago TODAY! Take that, Pearl Harbor!

[MossMan]

1 minute ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

Snow melt today here was obvious. Still 9 inches and hit 40 degrees for the first time since the 26th. Impressive cold spell.

My little snowpack took a major hit today. 

[Iceresistance]

2 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

23/-7 nine years ago TODAY! Take that, Pearl Harbor!

December 7th, 1941. The day that will live in infamy. 

[BLI snowman]

14 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

I think if I had to pick my top 3 blasts to experience it would be 1) December 1919 2) January 1909 3) January 1930. 

1919 would be #1 for me as well due to the combination of the massive blizzard followed by the crazy PV soaked cold. -15 to -20F temps were pretty common in the favored outlying spots.

January 1888 would be #2 due to the fact that it very likely was the absolute single coldest arctic airmass on record in our region. Like December 1968 but shifted a few hundred miles further SW. Not the snowiest but we did have a foot here on the overrunning end of it.

 

[Meatyorologist]

5 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

1919 would be #1 for me as well due to the combination of the massive blizzard followed by the crazy PV soaked cold. -15 to -20F temps were pretty common in the favored outlying spots.

January 1888 would be #2 due to the fact that it very likely was the absolute single coldest arctic airmass on record in our region. Like December 1968 but shifted a few hundred miles further SW. Not the snowiest but we did have a foot here on the overrunning end of it.

 

What were the numbers spat out by Jan 1888?

[T-Town]

1 hour ago, TT-SEA said:

My water pipes can think?    Amazing.

Smart Pipes. 

[MossMan]

KOMO has revised their top story. 

[VancouverIslandSouth]

Quite the snowstorm just west of Port Alberni tonight:

[Chewbacca Defense]

44 minutes ago, Brian_in_Leavenworth said:

Hes been tweeting photos from Hawaii.  He didn't outright say he was there, but he's there. 

Actually in yesterday's video he said he was most likely going to check out the lava flows and see family.

[BLI snowman]

5 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

What were the numbers spat out by Jan 1888?

Downtown Portland had 9/-2 with a virtually bare ground on 1/15/1888. That same day Newport, OR had a 20/1 spread, Astoria had a 16/10, Downtown Olympia was 20/-2, and Downtown Spokane was -10/-30.

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

1 hour ago, Deweydog said:

It’s been almost nineteen years since we’ve had snow falling at that temperature here. Came close in 2008 and 2014.

I believe we had a little snow around 20 degrees in Feb 2019 and November 2010.

[Meatyorologist]

1 minute ago, BLI snowman said:

Downtown Portland had 9/-2 with a virtually bare ground on 1/15/1888. That same day Newport, OR had a 20/1 spread, Astoria had a 16/10, Downtown Olympia was 20/-2, and Downtown Spokane was -10/-30.

dear christ.

[Cascadia_Wx]

55 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

Oh yeah.

In fact, their coldest high since 2014 is 28. A streak of 3225 days (soon to be 3226 ) .

Next longest 28+ streak was 2193 days from January 1943 to January 1949. Obvious analog.

Pretty surprising for this extreme era of scorching summers and frigid winters. 

[Deweydog]

9 minutes ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

I believe we had a little snow around 20 degrees in Feb 2019 and November 2010.

We snuck down to 22 during the 2/21 event, which was really impressive all things considered.

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

3 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Pretty surprising for this extreme era of scorching summers and frigid winters. 

Scorch and summer should be against the law to say. I still have nightmares about that heatwave.  The dry hot summers have sure taken a toll on our hemlocks in Washington and Oregon. 

[joelgombiner]

The bitter cold has retreated back north for the time being. 

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

1 minute ago, Deweydog said:

We snuck down to 22 during the 2/21 event, which was really impressive all things considered.

Definitely magical to see it snow west of the cascades in the teens. Just something special about the snow blowing around.

[joelgombiner]

Incredible warm up at Cut Bank, Montana this morning. Temperature went from -9 to 25 in an hour. 

 

[Cascadia_Wx]

2 minutes ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

Scorch and summer should be against the law to say. I still have nightmares about that heatwave.  The dry hot summers have sure taken a toll on our hemlocks in Washington and Oregon. 

Western redcedar as well. It’s been really sad to watch.

[Meatyorologist]

9 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Pretty surprising for this extreme era of scorching summers and frigid winters. 

"Our seasons have become more defined!!"

Well, yeah, because one of them has gone completely off the rails.

[BLI snowman]

13 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Pretty surprising for this extreme era of scorching summers and frigid winters. 

Spokane has a similar streak going with 3226 days since their last high below 13 (2/5/14). Next longest streak was 1839 days from December 1998 to January 2004.

Not shockingly, the two are majorly linked (). A pretty direct reflection of the lack of major upper level airmasses recently and more pointedly, a major lack of low level cold air advection into Eastern WA and the Basin, which in turn supplies Portland.

 

Edited December 8, 2022 by BLI snowman

[Gradient Keeper]

Let's keep this going! Jet suppression, cold pool, retrogression.

Colder Runs Ahead! C'MON!!!

[BLI snowman]

7 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Western redcedar as well. It’s been really sad to watch.

https://www.klcc.org/environment/2022-12-06/survey-shows-unprecedented-fir-tree-die-off-in-the-pacific-northwest

[joelgombiner]

Just now, Gradient Keeper said:

Let's keep this going! Jet suppression, cold pool, retrogression.

Colder Runs Ahead! C'MON!!!

Let's go!!! 

[snow_wizard]

36 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

What were the numbers spat out by Jan 1888?

Very luckily I have the numbers for both Seattle and Tacoma.  In Tacoma the heart of the long cold wave was.

13. 16/5

14. 18/3

15. 15/0

16. 19/5

[snow_wizard]

8 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

"Our seasons have become more defined!!"

Well, yeah, because one of them has gone completely off the rails.

To be fair winter has gotten better too.  We hit rock bottom earlier in the century and have been bouncing back since.  If this one goes like it appears it might it could be the coldest in a long time.

[SouthHillFrosty]

@MR.SNOWMIZER

[Kolk1604]

2 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

Very luckily I have the numbers for both Seattle and Tacoma.  In Tacoma the heart of the long cold wave was.

13. 16/5

14. 18/3

15. 15/0

16. 19/5

Wait are those highs and lows? I was 15 months old so I don't remember it lol 

[snow_wizard]

13 minutes ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

Definitely magical to see it snow west of the cascades in the teens. Just something special about the snow blowing around.

Snow at anything 25 or lower is incredible.

[SouthHillFrosty]

[snow_wizard]

Just now, Kolk1604 said:

Wait are those highs and lows? I was 15 months old so I don't remember it lol 

It was 1888.  Yes...highs and lows.

[MossMan]

Just now, SouthHillFrosty said:

Slightly better. Pretty colors just need to slip a tad more south! Better than the 18z however! 

[Gradient Keeper]

00z GFS Day 1 (4-run trend)

[Kolk1604]

2 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

It was 1888.  Yes...highs and lows.

Omg I read it as 1988 lol 

Like I said. I would make my arrival is 98 years 

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

6 minutes ago, SouthHillFrosty said:

@MR.SNOWMIZER

Wtf! Wow