Niko Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 You can actually see that surge of "HP" pushing south over S MI providing that fresh cold air. 2 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabel23 Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 Seems like the models are starting to come to an agreement in terms of track. Thermo's is gonna be the battle. Northern Nebraska, South Dakota, and Northern Iowa sitting in a good spot for moderate snow. Ice/rain will fall south of there. I would gladly take any form of precip. Dry air to the south will also be a problem. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 CMC slightly north of 12z. This might be a Minnesota special yet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 It's about punt time for this one for central/southern Iowa. 1 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Hawkeye said: It's about punt time for this one for central/southern Iowa. Yep. Thread should be titled "I-90" instead of I-80. Trend is N and I don't see it stopping either. Probably going to go visit my mother in the Twin Cities before the event early Thursday and do snow removal for her. If you can't beat them- join them!!! 2 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 06Z NAM and RDPS give Twin Cities accumulating snowfall. NWS DMX just went all in on COLD rain in C.IA to 100% Thursday night. Good time to get out of dodge. 1 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 MPX notices the big trend N-- - Thursday night/Friday storm system is trending north. Headline-worthy accumulating snow is now likely across southern MN. Attention then turns to the system for late week. There has been a rather significant shift northward since yesterday and that is mainly driven by a more amplified ridge across the southeastern U.S. With the mid level wave now tracking across central IA as opposed to MO-IL-IN, the shield of precipitation has advanced deeper into MN and WI and PoP/QPF have begun to increase. There has been little consistency with this system for the past 48 hours or so, aside from most ensemble members shifting farther north and west in unison and the spread beginning to cluster better. Since we are now about 72 hours out from this potential system, better consistency trends and confidence should increase markedly later today or tonight. This progressive, but potent system should have a swath of heavy precipitation on it`s northern half. 00Z EPS mean QPF is on the order of 0.5-0.6 inches where this precip shield tracks, including over southern MN, while the GEFS is heavier (0.75-1.0 inches) but remains the southernmost solution with the band across the southern half of IA. Forecast profiles indicate a mild boundary layer that could be capable of a cornucopia of precip types and only a degree or two will make a big difference. This system has quickly become the biggest headache in the forecast with lots of uncertainty and a potential higher impact event. 1 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 6, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 0z EPS...don't throw the towel in yet...big uptick for some in the SN dept...This would be a great scenario for the ski resorts in S Wisco...Cascade and Devil's Head among others would welcome this... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttumwaSnomow Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 6 minutes ago, Tom said: 0z EPS...don't throw the towel in yet...big uptick for some in the SN dept...This would be a great scenario for the ski resorts in S Wisco...Cascade and Devil's Head among others would welcome this... I gave up on this 2 days ago. Im just just gonna give up on any pre xmas snow in my area any longer. Between recurring drought for 13 straight summers and maybe only 3 or 5 weeks of real winter each year Im about to throw in the towel on this business! Which is totally absurd, since we have almost 60 commercial snow accounts and 200 lawn accounts. Too much down time all year in this place!!!!! The past 4 years we have had maybe 3 plowable snows in December and march. How pathetic is that! Id do better in North Carolina or Arkansas! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacsh Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 GFS for the track win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 13 minutes ago, Stacsh said: GFS for the track win. Sadly, once again, it looks to be the case: COLD FAIL. Tbh, it is not that surprising via Climo. When I lived in NMI, I always considered systems b4 Christmas as "my storms" (haha). And almost without fail they'd find their way to that outcome. Now, 2nd half of winter suppression was the rule and the opposite would happen. Storms would look promising and stay south. Despite the Euro's stubbornness (which can be it's bad bias with early season events) I think it will be wrong. Saw the GFS's warmth call win out with the 11-26-18 early season storm as well. This will just be the latest case of modelling rubbish as the Brits say. 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tStacsh Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 33 minutes ago, jaster220 said: Sadly, once again, it looks to be the case: COLD FAIL. Tbh, it is not that surprising via Climo. When I lived in NMI, I always considered systems b4 Christmas as "my storms" (haha). And almost without fail they'd find their way to that outcome. Now, 2nd half of winter suppression was the rule and the opposite would happen. Storms would look promising and stay south. Despite the Euro's stubbornness (which can be it's bad bias with early season events) I think it will be wrong. Saw the GFS's warmth call win out with the 11-26-18 early season storm as well. This will just be the latest case of modelling rubbish as the Brits say. GR is still bullish on snow potential (For my area at least) though. So we shall see. Really a battle of R/S line as there will be moisture. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 1 hour ago, tStacsh said: GR is still bullish on snow potential (For my area at least) though. So we shall see. Really a battle of R/S line as there will be moisture. You may be fine since you are on the N side of GR. I was mostly speaking for here. And by Cold Fail, it was more in regards to the system not being an I-80 special, which leaves those at that LAT upset be it in Iowa or others. 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 NOAA: Bears watching! Medium range models continue to advertise a more significant storm system ejecting into the area late in the week as a southern stream shortwave works from the southwest CONUS through the middle of the country on into the Great Lakes/Ohio Valley. While the spread of solutions (both in the timing and north/south orientation of the storm system) remain somewhat wide, there does appear to be a decent shot at a significant storm system in the area which would have the capability of producing accumulating snow. While the timing, as suggested above, is not certain, trends suggest that the daytime Friday into Friday evening time frame is becoming most likely. Confidence is low still, however, as the interaction with the large high pressure system over/north of the area will be tricky in this scenario as this system lifts into the region. AND: 1 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 18 minutes ago, Niko said: NOAA: Bears watching! Medium range models continue to advertise a more significant storm system ejecting into the area late in the week as a southern stream shortwave works from the southwest CONUS through the middle of the country on into the Great Lakes/Ohio Valley. While the spread of solutions (both in the timing and north/south orientation of the storm system) remain somewhat wide, there does appear to be a decent shot at a significant storm system in the area which would have the capability of producing accumulating snow. While the timing, as suggested above, is not certain, trends suggest that the daytime Friday into Friday evening time frame is becoming most likely. Confidence is low still, however, as the interaction with the large high pressure system over/north of the area will be tricky in this scenario as this system lifts into the region. AND: Too bad that map is not the official Gov map, LOL. My high temp for Friday has been going in the wrong direction for any real snow here. I know this is a "thread the needle" scenario at best for me, so I am remaining pessimistic so as not to get too invested in some white rain. At this point, my feeling is a WWA headline (legit one anyways) would be a huge win for my LAT). Edit: Not a fan of daytime timing either. I swear, annot catch a break here. Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 12 minutes ago, jaster220 said: Too bad that map is not the official Gov map, LOL. My high temp for Friday has been going in the wrong direction for any real snow here. I know this is a "thread the needle" scenario at best for me, so I am remaining pessimistic so as not to get too invested in some white rain. At this point, my feeling is a WWA headline (legit one anyways) would be a huge win for my LAT). Edit: Not a fan of daytime timing either. I swear, annot catch a break here. I hear ya, this to me is looking more like a wet snow event (not-sticking anywhere during the day) and possibly a light accumulation during the evening b4 ending. No cold air amigo. Dont forget, this is now the new December norm. 1 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaSnowFan Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 Definitely been a noticeable north and east trend with the precipitation. I’m going with .2” of cold rain here. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDR Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 Gfs moves a little more north Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 The NAM puts down a lot of snow in northern Iowa. I may have to go visit my parents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 RDPS (short range Canadian) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 I feel like this will be a tough forecast with the cut offs and thermals. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellona Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 I'm not too hopeful for anyone south of 20 in Iowa. Hoping I can score maybe a few inches. Still time to shift back some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 The Canadian is now showing snow up to the Twin Cities Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 UK also a huge shift north. Funny, I see models shift north when showing snow over east central Iowa all the time, but whenever snow is just to the south of us, they rarely shift north. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 Looks like another swing and miss. Hoping we at least get some moisture, but not holding my breath. Just so hard to break a drought. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 I actually hope (if no snow) that DSM area gets dry slotted. Some guidance is starting to show that. Nothing more miserable than mid 30's and moderate/heavy rain. Looking for the dry slot in C.IA but hoping the Twin Cities gets rocked as I will be there. 1 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttumwaSnomow Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Grizzcoat said: I actually hope (if no snow) that DSM area gets dry slotted. Some guidance is starting to show that. Nothing more miserable than mid 30's and moderate/heavy rain. Looking for the dry slot in C.IA but hoping the Twin Cities gets rocked as I will be there. Des has a 6.5 inch deficit, Kirksville 8 inch deficit. Im around 7 inch deficit. Ponds almost dried up. I will take all the rain we can get. Especially since the ground not frozen thick yet. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 6 minutes ago, OttumwaSnomow said: Des has a 6.5 inch deficit, Kirksville 8 inch deficit. Im around 7 inch deficit. Ponds almost dried up. I will take all the rain we can get. Especially since the ground not frozen thick yet. Our region is a 10-20" deficit since Oct. 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 Euro actually shifted south some, but the snow decreased this run, due to warm temps and poor ratios. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 EPS mean continues to look better than the operational model. But this is also 10:1 and it looks like ratios would be worse than that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Snowman Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 I'm making it sort of a personal goal to actually dissect the reasons for local storm whiffs this winter, the hope being that learning from mistakes helps sniff out what will actually happen instead of living & dying by individual model runs. In this situation it seems like the synoptic pattern doesn't favor anything other than northward storm tracks. Featuring most prominently in that reasoning is how our storm system next week will be actively digging south & east from the Gulf of Alaska into the West Coast, creating not only a -PNA set-up but an intensifying -PNA set-up as that trough moves in. It's worth mentioning the 'intensifying' part because it supports intensifying ridging downstream in response to the -PNA, making it an uphill battle for southerly storm tracks to pan out. Likely adding some degree of influence is the ongoing -NAO, which continues to keep the North American jet stream nice and meridional on the whole. Instead of supporting cold chances, though, it amplifies the -PNA pattern. This isn't a big surprise - a regime upstream of any given location will almost always have a more direct impact on that location's pattern than a regime downstream, referring here to the PNA and NAO respectively - but does help to amplify the upper-level flow as a whole. Unfortunately for us folks around I-80, this means a preference for a deeper -PNA and, consequentially, a stronger East U.S. ridge which pumps storm tracks further north. The event hasn't happened yet, so it's not really a postmortem, but clearly the synoptic pattern favors the storm taking that northward track the GFS clung to initially. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 More ice coming with just a little snow. Well I guess it is something. WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM MIDNIGHT WEDNESDAY NIGHT TO 3 PM CST THURSDAY... * WHAT...Mixed precipitation expected. Precipitation beginning as freezing drizzle transitioning to a wintry mix including freezing rain and then snow. Total snow accumulations of up to one inch and ice accumulations of up to one tenth of an inch are possible. * WHERE...Portions of north central Kansas and central, east central and south central Nebraska. * WHEN...From midnight Wednesday night to 3 PM CST Thursday. * IMPACTS...Plan on slippery road conditions. The hazardous conditions could impact the morning and afternoon commute. * ADDITIONAL DETAILS...Precipitation will begin overnight as freezing drizzle transitioning to a wintry mix including freezing rain and then eventually snow during the daytime hours on the back side of the storm system. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 28 minutes ago, CentralNebWeather said: More ice coming with just a little snow. Well I guess it is something. WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM MIDNIGHT WEDNESDAY NIGHT TO 3 PM CST THURSDAY... * WHAT...Mixed precipitation expected. Precipitation beginning as freezing drizzle transitioning to a wintry mix including freezing rain and then snow. Total snow accumulations of up to one inch and ice accumulations of up to one tenth of an inch are possible. * WHERE...Portions of north central Kansas and central, east central and south central Nebraska. * WHEN...From midnight Wednesday night to 3 PM CST Thursday. * IMPACTS...Plan on slippery road conditions. The hazardous conditions could impact the morning and afternoon commute. * ADDITIONAL DETAILS...Precipitation will begin overnight as freezing drizzle transitioning to a wintry mix including freezing rain and then eventually snow during the daytime hours on the back side of the storm system. I guess it's better than stepping off the Hype Train empty-handed Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 NOAA: Medium range projections in today`s 12Z model cycle maintain solutions that bring today`s southern California low pressure system into the Midwest by early Friday. There is reasonable agreement on the track and strength of the short wave as it is kicked eastward by next round of Pacific jet energy with the mid level circulation reaching the south end of Lake Michigan by Friday afternoon. Model variations are greater with the magnitude and placement of the QPF axis which also feeds into precipitation type expectations. The ECMWF is reasonable representation of consensus among the deterministic solutions considering the short wave is forced to shear eastward during the day Friday. Surface temperature guidance is well above freezing during the day while NAM and GFS model soundings are closer to a snow sounding. For now, a high POP rain/snow mix with some light accumulation looks like a good start while keeping a close eye on temperature trends. Strong surface high pressure over northern Ontario and Quebec is poised to have a colder influence on the low level thermal profile likely requiring refinements to the proportions of rain and snow in upcoming forecasts. 1 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 @jaster220Think about this, at least flakes will be flying to get ya in the Christmas mood. Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 18z Euro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 The spotty nature of these maps tells me there's mixing issues. Doesn't give much confidence on snow amounts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 5 hours ago, Niko said: @jaster220Think about this, at least flakes will be flying to get ya in the Christmas mood. Thx for the nice thought amigo! I'm enjoying the holiday season very much so far, despite the short term let-down in the winter wx dept. Tbh, I would have zero issues with this week's wx from a historical standpoint (climo) had we not been engaged in trying to "out guess" Ma Nature and jumping on flawed technology that makes promises it can't deliver without her agreement. Disappointment will linger if I end up with a "dab" after expecting a legit snowstorm, but there's always next month, year, decade, etc. 1 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 38 minutes ago, james1976 said: The spotty nature of these maps tells me there's mixing issues. Doesn't give much confidence on snow amounts. I'd still trade places with yby Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttumwaSnomow Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 8 hours ago, CentralNebWeather said: Our region is a 10-20" deficit since Oct. 2021 Our was 15 inch deficit just in 2022. But we have been getting above avg rain last 90 days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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