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2 minutes ago, CliffMassYelledAtMe said:

I thought it was 2 lows. Something about a scorpion tail with the occluded front from the two lows.

 

It's coming.

I believe that feature is moving onshore soon-- that'll tighten the pressure gradient inland 

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(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches

(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches

(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches

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Heavy snow now at Tombstone Pass (Hwy 20 4200') and Santiam Junction (3700'). Both spots had rain about 45 minutes ago. Still just rain at Government Camp, because of the low placement the colder air aloft is punching in quicker, further south. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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9 minutes ago, luterra said:

All of the damage and power outages in Corvallis happened in a very short period at 4 am.  Winds are now much lighter by comparison.  SSE winds can surface here much more easily than SW.

Peak gust at my sheltered station of 33 mph is the highest so far in this location (since 2016).

Peak winds corresponded with a brief but rapid pressure rise from the lowest point (29.03") and a sudden temperature drop albeit only slightly more than a degree.  Not much rain happening at the time.

What sort of phenomenon would this be?  Passage of occluded front mixing winds briefly to the surface?

Sounds like a satellite front which maximized mixing. 

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27 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Chris is not in the eye of the storm! 

How is that storm moving in that direction going to bring wind to Seattle?

Just a surface low. The disturbance is not vertically stacked, the upper level low is what is driving the sharp pressure rises this evening as it ejects this current offshore lobe to the NNE.

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"

-2023-24*: 0.25"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

-Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31

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2 minutes ago, luterra said:

All of the damage and power outages in Corvallis happened in a very short period at 4 am.  Winds are now much lighter by comparison.  SSE winds can surface here much more easily than SW.

Peak gust at my sheltered station of 33 mph is the highest so far in this location (since 2016).

Peak winds corresponded with a brief but rapid pressure rise from the lowest point (29.03") and a sudden temperature drop albeit only slightly more than a degree.  Not much rain happening at the time.

What sort of phenomenon would this be?  Passage of occluded front mixing winds briefly to the surface?

It also appears that the strongest winds were WSW amidst southerly gusts on either side.

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Probably some of the worst (if not the worst) tidal flooding on record in La Conner. Looks like storm surge was 2-3’ based on the tidal stations.

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Home Wx Station Stats (Since January 2008):

Max Temp: 96.3F (2009)   Min Temp: 2.0F (2008)   Max Wind Gust: 45 mph (2018, 2021)   Wettest Day: 2.34 (11/4/22)   Avg Yearly Precip: 37"   10yr Avg Snow: 8.0"

Snowfall Totals

'08-09: 30" | '09-10: 0.5" | '10-11: 21" | '11-12: 9.5" | '12-13: 0.2" | '13-14: 6.2" | '14-15: 0.0" | '15-16: 0.25"| '16-17: 8.0" | '17-18: 0.9"| '18-19: 11.5" | '19-20: 11" | '20-21: 10.5" | '21-22: 21.75" | '22-23: 10.0" 

2023-24: 7.0" (1/17: 3", 1/18: 1.5", 2/26: 0.5", 3/4: 2.0", Flakes: 1/11, 1/16)

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 Currently 51.7 and at 0.43” of rain so far today. With how far south this low is going it is making me question if the Seattle area is going to see strong winds at all.

2023 - 2024 Cold Season Stats

Total Snowfall - 0.75”

Max Snow Depth - 0.5”

Coldest High Temp - 21 (Jan 13)

Coldest Low Temp - 9 (Jan 13)

Number of Freezes - 48

Sub-40 highs - 12

Highs 32 or lower - 3

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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PGE currently has 81,000 customers in the dark. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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It's really breezy here. Probly was the windiest it has been just a few mins ago.

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Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25”
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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These big old fir trees in the Washburne district are really swaying.

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Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25”
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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2 minutes ago, Cloud said:

This is by far the lowest pressure reading of the season and the year for the area. 

Current pressure at SEA is sitting at 28.52Hg, which is equivalent to 965.80mb. 

That’s actually the station pressure which bias adjusted for elevation. Their altimeter setting is about 981mb currently. 965 would probably be close to an all time record.

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1 minute ago, ShawniganLake said:

It’s been forecast to begin with warming over Siberia around January 5th. Been pretty consistent 

At first in November it was forecast mid December. Then it was forecast for the end of December. Now the 5th of January. The next update it will probably start mid January. So we will see if it has impact this winter or not. 

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First time this season seeing water in my usual wet areas around the property. Definitely have reached the saturation point. Both main and backup drainage systems working well though. Way way better than when we first bought the place nearly 5yrs ago with zero drainage. I don’t know how the previous owners put up with all of the water that would flow right up around the house. (Before and after pic at the bottom) During the December 2018 AR I used a trenching shovel to try and divert some of the water away from the house as I just couldn’t take seeing that much water going under the house. The property line drainage now takes care of most of the water but this secondary drainage area was critical last year when there was a breach with the main one. 
 

Does look like I will need to do some drainage beside my new RV parking area however. I forgot that area likes to get soggy. 

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Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! 

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3 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

That’s actually the station pressure which bias adjusted for elevation. Their altimeter setting is about 981mb currently. 965 would probably be close to an all time record.

You're correct. I was quite curious to know which pressure reading to look at. The altimeter makes a lot more sense than the station pressure. 

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5 minutes ago, High Desert Mat? said:

At first in November it was forecast mid December. Then it was forecast for the end of December. Now the 5th of January. The next update it will probably start mid January. So we will see if it has impact this winter or not. 

It updates every run of the GFS or which ever model you are checking.  The PV has been pretty weak and stretched out so far this season. 

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Just thinking about the Oregon Ducks playing in the Holiday Bowl down in San Diego tomorrow night. I was a much younger man, and my brother and I drove down, enjoyed the game (A 17-14 loss to Oklahoma), and then drove back. We got stopped at Lake Shasta as I-5 was closed due to a ferocious storm. Just happened to be late December 2005. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
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3 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

Tragic: Buffalo woman, 22, dies in blizzard after sending chilling final video to family on way home from work (msn.com)

Apparently the death toll has surpassed the legendary 1977 blizzard...despite how much technology has advanced since then, there's only so much you can do to rescue people when a historic blizzard hits.

Just crazy on so many levels. Sounds like some people died in their cars a mere block from their destination. 

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Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! 

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1 minute ago, MossMan said:

Just crazy on so many levels. Sounds like some people died in their cars a mere block from their destination. 

Their FINAL DESTINATION. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Just now, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Just thinking about the Oregon Ducks playing in the Holiday Bowl down in San Diego tomorrow night. I was a much younger man, and my brother and I drove down, enjoyed the game (A 17-14 loss to Oklahoma), and then drove back. We got stopped at Lake Shasta as I-5 was closed due to a ferocious storm. Just happened to be late December 2005. 

I was also at that game, and I was surprised Oregon kept the game close with the silly QB rotation scheme.

Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25”
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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2 minutes ago, TigerWoodsLibido said:

I was also at that game, and I was surprised Oregon kept the game close with the silly QB rotation scheme.

The great part was Brady Leaf having a receiver wide open for a game winning touchdown, but instead of lofting it over the linebacker he threw it on a line right to the Oklahoma defender. Ballgame. 

I also remember mocking people from Oklahoma, and then moving there less than a year later. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

The great part was Brady Leaf having a receiver wide open for a game winning touchdown, but instead of lofting it over the linebacker he threw it on a line right to the Oklahoma defender. Ballgame. 

I also remember mocking people from Oklahoma, and then moving there less than a year later. 

Pretty sure Toby Keith got to be on the sidelines with Bob Stoops.

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Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25”
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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1 minute ago, TigerWoodsLibido said:

Pretty sure Toby Keith got to be on the sidelines with Bob Stoops.

Prayerz up for TK, he's battling stomach cancer!

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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11 minutes ago, MossMan said:

Just crazy on so many levels. Sounds like some people died in their cars a mere block from their destination. 

Sounds like the family assumed this young lady died from carbon monoxide poisoning after the snow blocked her exhaust. Also at the same time blamed first responders for not being able to get to her... I understand the frustration here and feel sad for everyone but can't see how the responders are to blame here when it's a blizzard. I'd heed the advice and stay the heck indoors. 

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"

-2023-24*: 0.25"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

-Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31

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