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Some early signs of a jet retraction by the end of week two in the ensembles but that's about it. Pretty clear that we'll be waiting until at least the last week of January before NPAC blocking returns.

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Total snowfall: 26"

Highest daily snowfall: 5"

Deepest snow depth: 12"

Coldest daily high: -20ºF

Coldest daily low: -42ºF

Number of subzero days: 5

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6 minutes ago, Kayla said:

Some early signs of a jet retraction by the end of week two in the ensembles but that's about it. Pretty clear that we'll be waiting until at least the last week of January before NPAC blocking returns.

This is all going according to PLAN!

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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5 minutes ago, TacomaWx said:

Matt’s getting worried about January. 

He already wrote January off this morning. Possibly the rest of the winter. All because his snoopy got destroyed due to the ice. 😞 🤣 

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And boom! Another 50F burger.

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Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25”
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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1 minute ago, TigerWoodsLibido said:

And boom! Another 50F burger.

50 burger? Seems like some low hanging fruit. ;)

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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Five people were killed by falling trees on Oregon highways yesterday. :( RIP

https://www.oregonlive.com/commuting/2022/12/falling-trees-kill-4-in-car-crashes-along-us-26.html

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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3 hours ago, MossMan said:

As long as we don’t hit the split flow hell stage I am happy. Hopefully we will still see something big in late January/February. The forecasted SSW will certainly help that timeframe if it comes to be. 

How did you guys do in 1955-1956? This pattern coming up looks eerily similar for California

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3 hours ago, MossMan said:

As long as we don’t hit the split flow hell stage I am happy. Hopefully we will still see something big in late January/February. The forecasted SSW will certainly help that timeframe if it comes to be. 

Looks like a Siberian one too. Those statistically favor the PNW... but with -ENSO any appropriate blocking will take advantage.

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Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"

-2023-24*: 0.25"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

-Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31

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3 minutes ago, AlTahoe said:

How did you guys do in 1955-1956? This pattern coming up looks eerily similar for California

Pretty good. Obviously the big November arctic blast. But a good shot of cold and low elevation snow in late January (After a very benign first 25 days) and then a very cold February. One of the coldest on record regionally. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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Really good snow event in late January 1956. PDX had 9.5", SLE had 5.5", EUG.... 1". 

Didn't seem like much snow in February, just 1-2" at all three locations, but all 3 locations had sub-freezing highs in early and mid-February. At SLE only February 1989, 1936, and 1929 were colder. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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1 hour ago, TacomaWx said:

Matt’s getting worried about January. 

Second half is still totally fertile ground, but EPAC Cyclonefest will need a Louisville Slugger between the eyes.

On a related note, there was a discussion on Christmas Day about my daughter’s first Christmas when I had strep throat. It was disturbing that this was 2005. As a part of the discussion, it was realized that Christmas Day 2005 also fell on a Sunday…….

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12 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Pretty good. Obviously the big November arctic blast. But a good shot of cold and low elevation snow in late January (After a very benign first 25 days) and then a very cold February. One of the coldest on record regionally. 

Just checked here and it was a top 5 coldest Feb. 

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2 hours ago, TacomaWx said:

If I had to rate this winter so far..it would probably get a B. That’s if it ended today and we had warm split flow until March. I’ve really enjoyed the fact we’ve hit average snowfall and had a really nice cold blast already. Not super wet…and no real signature windstorm just a couple modest ones but since early November it’s been great. If we can manage another round of snow and some sub freezing highs this would definitely be an A+ winter IMO…and I think it’ll happen. 

The fact we're not even into January and the PS has at least had 2 bouts with snow is a huge plus.  Feel like we have at least 1 really good week of snow chances to come but could see a sneaker event or 2 based on how this winter has played out so far.

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41 minutes ago, MossMan said:

He already wrote January off this morning. Possibly the rest of the winter. All because his snoopy got destroyed due to the ice. 😞 🤣 

He got COMPLETELY wiped out by the wind yesterday. Snoopy clearly thinks Christmas ends on Christmas.

And I’m not writing anything off, but some of the numbers put up last week will be very tough to beat. Chances of PDX having another day with an average in the low 20’s is pretty low.

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4 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

This forum during the 1999-2005 period would have been fun.

Late December 2003 into the New Year would have been fun. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
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3 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

He got COMPLETELY wiped out by the wind yesterday. Snoopy clearly thinks Christmas ends on Christmas.

And I’m not writing anything off, but some of the numbers put up last week will be very tough to beat. Chances of PDX having another day with an average in the low 20’s is pretty low.

Yeah we had a high of 25 which is very rare. Would need something pretty top tier to knock that from the coldest max of the winter. 

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Silver Falls stats were posted on the Utah State Climate site. Looks like their last 50+ high was November 5th (Before last Saturday.). 

I mentioned before it came in as their 2nd coldest November (1938-present), behind 1985. 23 sub-freezing lows, 12 sub-40 highs. 3 daily record min max's on the 7-9th. 

34/31 on the 7th

35/23 on the 19th

35/32 on the 29th. 

 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
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6 minutes ago, CliffMassYelledAtMe said:

Next month's title is going to be "February 2023 Preseason", right? Since we all know there's no point in a January thread?

February is the new clutch month.

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Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25”
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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Currently 45.9. I will say it’s been kind of nice the last few days when I go away for a few hours not to have to catch up on 5+ new pages 😂. I do have a feeling the next time we get an arctic blast this winter if it happens it will be warmer temps but more snow. For me I will gladly take more moisture for warmer temps as long as they are still cold enough to support snow!

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2023 - 2024 Cold Season Stats

Total Snowfall - 0.75”

Max Snow Depth - 0.5”

Coldest High Temp - 21 (Jan 13)

Coldest Low Temp - 9 (Jan 13)

Number of Freezes - 48

Sub-40 highs - 12

Highs 32 or lower - 3

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1 hour ago, Deweydog said:

He got COMPLETELY wiped out by the wind yesterday. Snoopy clearly thinks Christmas ends on Christmas.

And I’m not writing anything off, but some of the numbers put up last week will be very tough to beat. Chances of PDX having another day with an average in the low 20’s is pretty low.

Yep. I never wrote anything off either.  I’m sure there could be some snow chances and even some arctic air.  But a lot of places in the PNW already saw some pretty high end stuff.  Just not a lot of snow in the higher population centers down south. 

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Phew, power back after 30 hours or so-- definitely the most I've spent without power from a wind event since 2014. 

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5 hours ago, MossMan said:

As long as we don’t hit the split flow hell stage I am happy. Hopefully we will still see something big in late January/February. The forecasted SSW will certainly help that timeframe if it comes to be. 

Be careful what you wish for.  I think most SSW events get the East cold, not the west.  February 2019 an obvious exception.  Besides, the PNW got pretty darn cold without one recently.  

And it may depend on if it's a Siberian event or North Atlantic event (do you know where it is forecasted to be?).

I get the potential though.  Nina years often have North Pacific ridging late January and into February, which would be a nice setup if there is a SSW event 

Good article about it here.  It's an older article, but relevant for the PNW.

https://theconvergencezone.com/2021/01/05/will-sudden-stratospheric-warming-lead-to-an-arctic-cold-blast-in-late-

 

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The King Tides have been pretty amazing this past week.  I went to go look at some of the aftermath myself and it's shocking how high the tides got.

 

On a different note, we actually still have power outages still.  The most in the country are still in Oregon. The majority is still around Portland with over 15,000 in Multnomah, Washington, and Yamhill Counties without power still.  Tillamook County took the brunt of the wind storm and there hasn't been much progress.  Still over 10,000 without power in the county.  Clatsop who had a ton of outages have pretty much gotten everyone back online.  Strangely in southern Oregon, we still have over 3,000 without power in Josephine County.  Strangely the coastal southern Oregon counties don't seem to have people without power, but this inland county does.  KOBI-TV 5 from Medford is reporting the outages were due to the storm and trees knocking out power.  They also report at one time, there were over 55,000 without power in Southern Oregon. 

 

For Washington, King County is the hotbed because as reported last night, the Snoqualmie area is without power and remains without power, STILL.  We're coming up on 24hrs soon.  Roughly 15,000 effected. 

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