Parksvillewx Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Bring on spring! Discuss... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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whitechristmas Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 I guess we know where the true weather geeks are. Right here! The Great Lakes Feb. discussion had 1,232 posts. Ours had 8,380! Now we just need to get their weather and we'd be all set! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westiztehbest Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 I guess we know where the true weather geeks are. Right here! The Great Lakes Feb. discussion had 1,232 posts. Ours had 8,380! Now we just need to get their weather and we'd be all set!Well that would most definitely occur in a -ENSO winter. This next winter looks to be warm...so perhaps the following winter will be cold...and therefore favorable. Not that El Nino winters can't produce coastal snowfall or cold intrusions...they just don't happen as much as La Nina winters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seattleweatherguy Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 we can get snow in an el nino year. happend in 1996 i believe. or somewhere in the 90s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 I think the odds are pretty high we get some kind of torch next winter. Doesn't mean we can't throw a January 1998 like event into the mix though. I really think 2015-16 could be big. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow maniac Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 just had a quick snow/hail shower pass through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don asta weather Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Our lowland snow chances decrease after February so March is entering like a beast meteorological spring starts March 1 will it end the same way it started I doubt it but with this winter anything's possible see y'all next month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epiceast Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Start tracking those showers! Some of them could have snowflakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Been posting in Feb thread, was wondering were everyone was. Having a newborn and being off from work makes the days blend in! Snowing here! Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighlandExperience Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Start tracking those showers! Some of them could have snowflakes.Some reports of snow even in king county. Wish I was in hood canal though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.SNOWMIZER Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 I have a feeling most of us will see snow before the weekend is over. Like I said last night the models have a terrible time working out a solution with all this dry offshore flow. I see they have a winter storm watch for the canal. 1 Quote We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epiceast Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 So it looks like Pendleton NWS morning shift worked extra hard and issued 10 advisories... one for each county. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Not a bad NWS discussion this morning! Been snowing off and on since 8am, temp is 39 but dp is at 27 so it is all snow. Not sticking of course, though. Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pscz1140 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Wow, light rain/snow mix at SEA. 44 degrees with a DP of 30. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.SNOWMIZER Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Wow, light rain/snow mix at SEA. 44 degrees with a DP of 30.The power of evaporative cooling. Quote We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.SNOWMIZER Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Going to be interesting this evening. I can feel it. I would not be surprised to see 1-3 inches common from Olympia north. Quote We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Going to be interesting this evening. I can feel it. I would not be surprised to see 1-3 inches common from Olympia north.It will be close. I have not even seen a sprinkle here at all this morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pscz1140 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Wow, this has suddenly gotten much more interesting! From the SEA NWS discussion this morning:.SHORT TERM... AREAS OF LIGHT SNOW DEVELOPED OVER PARTS OF THE LOWLAND INTERIOR THIS MORNING. A WET BULB COOLING PROCESS WAS OCCURRING. THIS WAS CONFIRMED BY A SPOTTER IN NORTH BEND WHO STATED THAT THE TEMPERATURE DROPPED FROM 47 DEGREES TO 37 DEGREES IN ABOUT 15 MINUTES. THIS MEANS THAT WHERE IT IS RAINING...EXPECT TEMPS TO PLUMMET 10-15 DEGREES AS PRECIP RATES INCREASE...LEADING TO A CHANGE-OVER TO SNOW. THE GRIDDED FORECAST WAS UPDATED TO LOWER THE SNOW LEVELS DUE TO WET BULB OR EVAPORATIONAL COOLING. NOW...THIS MEANS THAT MANY LOWLAND SITES ACROSS THE INTERIOR IN PARTICULAR COULD SEE SOME LIGHT SNOW TODAY BUT MORE LIKELY TONIGHT THRU SUNDAY MORNING. AMOUNTS ARE EXPECTED TO BE GENERALLY LESS THAN AN INCH TODAY. TONIGHT...PRECIP RATES WILL INCREASE LEADING TO MORE SIGNIFICANT SNOWFALL ACCUMULATIONS ESPECIALLY ACROSS THE FAR NORTH INTERIOR AND THE HOOD CANAL AREA. THE WINTER STORM WATCH WAS EXPANDED TO INCLUDE THE HOOD CANAL ZONE. ELSEWHERE...ACROSS THE INTERIOR LOWLANDS...AMOUNTS THROUGH SUNDAY ARE EXPECTED TO BE ABOUT AN INCH OR LESS. HOWEVER WILL NEED TO MONITOR THE EAST PUGET SOUND LOWLANDS AS ADVISORY AMOUNTS /1 TO 3 INCHES/ WILL BE POSSIBLE OVER THIS AREA. ANOTHER AREA THAT WILL NEED MONITORING IS THE AREA ON THE NORTH AND EAST SIDES OF THE BLACK HILLS WHERE UPSLOPE FLOW COULD ENHANCE PRECIP RATES. http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/total_forecast/getprod.php?prod=XXXAFDSEW&wfo=SEW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Wow, this has suddenly gotten much more interesting! From the SEA NWS discussion this morning:.SHORT TERM... AREAS OF LIGHT SNOW DEVELOPED OVER PARTS OF THE LOWLAND INTERIOR THIS MORNING. A WET BULB COOLING PROCESS WAS OCCURRING. THIS WAS CONFIRMED BY A SPOTTER IN NORTH BEND WHO STATED THAT THE TEMPERATURE DROPPED FROM 47 DEGREES TO 37 DEGREES IN ABOUT 15 MINUTES. THIS MEANS THAT WHERE IT IS RAINING...EXPECT TEMPS TO PLUMMET 10-15 DEGREES AS PRECIP RATES INCREASE...LEADING TO A CHANGE-OVER TO SNOW. THE GRIDDED FORECAST WAS UPDATED TO LOWER THE SNOW LEVELS DUE TO WET BULB OR EVAPORATIONAL COOLING. NOW...THIS MEANS THAT MANY LOWLAND SITES ACROSS THE INTERIOR IN PARTICULAR COULD SEE SOME LIGHT SNOW TODAY BUT MORE LIKELY TONIGHT THRU SUNDAY MORNING. AMOUNTS ARE EXPECTED TO BE GENERALLY LESS THAN AN INCH TODAY. TONIGHT...PRECIP RATES WILL INCREASE LEADING TO MORE SIGNIFICANT SNOWFALL ACCUMULATIONS ESPECIALLY ACROSS THE FAR NORTH INTERIOR AND THE HOOD CANAL AREA. THE WINTER STORM WATCH WAS EXPANDED TO INCLUDE THE HOOD CANAL ZONE. ELSEWHERE...ACROSS THE INTERIOR LOWLANDS...AMOUNTS THROUGH SUNDAY ARE EXPECTED TO BE ABOUT AN INCH OR LESS. HOWEVER WILL NEED TO MONITOR THE EAST PUGET SOUND LOWLANDS AS ADVISORY AMOUNTS /1 TO 3 INCHES/ WILL BE POSSIBLE OVER THIS AREA. ANOTHER AREA THAT WILL NEED MONITORING IS THE AREA ON THE NORTH AND EAST SIDES OF THE BLACK HILLS WHERE UPSLOPE FLOW COULD ENHANCE PRECIP RATES. http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/total_forecast/getprod.php?prod=XXXAFDSEW&wfo=SEW I don't think so. Temperatures are still in the 40s for most places... and the GFS MOS has the coldest temperature at SEA being 37 tonight. There is not going to be any magical cooling from here. 925 temps are already about to start rising. Maybe for Bellingham... but not the Seattle area. This one is dead upon arrival. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 PDX down to 38 now TTD down to 35. Salem is at 47, but their wind just switched from south to north in the past hour. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.SNOWMIZER Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 I don't think so. Temperatures are still in the 40s for most places... and the GFS MOS has the coldest temperature at SEA being 37 tonight. There is not going to be any magical cooling from here. 925 temps are already about to start rising. Maybe for Bellingham... but not the Seattle area. This one is dead upon arrival.I don't think any model showed snow possible this morning like has happened. So at this point it might just be a now cast thing. 2 Quote We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 I don't think so. Temperatures are still in the 40s for most places... and the GFS MOS has the coldest temperature at SEA being 37 tonight. There is not going to be any magical cooling from here. 925 temps are already about to start rising. Maybe for Bellingham... but not the Seattle area. This one is dead upon arrival. A lot of cold air moving through the gorge at this hour. Temps in the Willamette Valley north of Aurora have been steadily dropping throughout the day. Salem's wind just switched to north as well. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 I don't think any model showed snow possible this morning like has happened. So at this point it might just be a now cast thing. The backdoor push of cold air through the gorge seems to be stronger than expected and the mesoanalysis has not yet caught up. Ausburger Mtn. near Hood River at 2100' is at 21 degrees and Biddle Butte at 1500' is down to 27, Corbett is at freezing now too. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 I don't think any model showed snow possible this morning like has happened. So at this point it might just be a now cast thing. What has happened?? A few snowflakes with non-measurable precip? The ECMWF has shown very light precip for today for the last 6 days. Its not like there is measurable snow happening. Temperatures are in the 40s and wet bulb cooling is not going to help much more. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 I have a feeling that places Everett north & also east side will see accumulating snow tonight, with a possibility of places Olympia north also seeing something. Hopefully they will expand the WSW down to my area! Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.SNOWMIZER Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 What has happened?? A few snowflakes with non-measurable precip? The ECMWF has shown very light precip for today for the last 6 days. Its not like there is measurable snow happening. Temperatures are in the 40s and wet bulb cooling is not going to help much more.No model shown snow possible at low elevations this morning. Just thinking that the models don't do well with so much dry and cold air so close. We will see. 1 Quote We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 No model shown snow possible at low elevations this morning. Just thinking that the models don't do well with so much dry and cold air so close. We will see. I am not sure how the models were supposed to be right other than showing nothing. Its not accumulating. The ECMWF showed very light precip... that is what is happening. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 The wet bulb cooling was a surprise, I had heard nothing about that being a possibility until it was happening this morning. I think there will be a lot of suprises this weekend! Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 PDX now down to 37. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvssnow_spokane Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 44 degrees and a nice drizzle here in Bonney Lake... Quote My Weather Station https://tempestwx.com/station/61434 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brody Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 OK, only the second time I have ever seen this type of ( we'll call it precip ) and the last time I saw it was in Dec 1996 but there is currently thsee small slush ball type precip falling here and it's making a noticeable " splat " sound as it hits the ground So F****ing weird EDIT: post #420 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 The wet bulb cooling was a surprise, I had heard nothing about that being a possibility until it was happening this morning. I think there will be a lot of suprises this weekend! How is wet bulb cooling a surprise with a dry air coming in yesterday and then light precip being shown by the GFS and ECMWF today? It was a given actually. But there is no accumulating snow. Here is right now:http://www.atmos.washington.edu/mm5rt/data/current_gfs/images_d2/slp.06.0000.gif Here is tomorrow morning:http://www.atmos.washington.edu/mm5rt/data/current_gfs/images_d2/slp.30.0000.gif There is not going to be all these 'surprises' this weekend. Nothing is happening. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pscz1140 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 I am not sure how the models were supposed to be right other than showing nothing. Its not accumulating. The ECMWF showed very light precip... that is what is happening. It would be nice to just see some snow, even if it doesn't stick. It doesn't take much to make me happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 I'd be happy to just see some snow, even if it doesn't stick. It doesn't take much to make me happy. Obviously not. The sunshine made me happy yesterday. Now we don't even have next weekend to look forward to... the models pretty much show rain off and on for the next 10 days. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 How is wet bulb cooling a surprise with a dry air coming in yesterday and then light precip being shown by the GFS and ECMWF today? It was a given actually. But there is no accumulating snow. Here is right now: Here is tomorrow morning: There is not going to be all these 'surprises' this weekend. Nothing is happening. The NWS thinks there is more potential than what the models are showing. Maybe you should call them and tell them they will be wrong now, well before any event gets started. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 The NWS thinks there is more potential than what the models are showing. Maybe you should call them and tell them they will be wrong now, well before any event gets started. Its pretty obvious what is happening. A little low has spun up as show for the last 5 days... and will begin drawing in warmer air later today. It will rain tomorrow for most places. One guy at the NWS office got a little excited about some initial wet bulb cooling. SEA has light rain and 42 degrees and this is the coldest point of the event. This is a little silly. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brody Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Obviously not. The sunshine made me happy yesterday. Now we don't even have next weekend to look forward to... the models pretty much show rain off and on for the next 10 days. Oh good god Tim, REALLY? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 The NWS thinks there is more potential than what the models are showing. Maybe you should call them and tell them they will be wrong now, well before any event gets started. And this is the 'event'. The next wave of moisture is well offshore and will arrive tomorrow when the entire column is above freezing. This round of moisture is passing through now... with nothing upstream on the coastal radar. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pscz1140 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Obviously not. The sunshine made me happy yesterday. Now we don't even have next weekend to look forward to... the models pretty much show rain off and on for the next 10 days. Not sure what you mean by "obviously not." I like almost any weather. Yesterday was great, and I'm enjoying today too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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