hawkstwelve 7241 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 God. I can only imagine how much Tim is trying to be "realistic" over, and over, and over, and over again. He can't just accept the fact that people have hope, even if there is none. He MUST prove how there is no possible way we can get snow because his BFF (GFS MOS guidance) has adamently said so. And he must not only prove it once, he must prove it 23897 times in 73826 ways so that HE can be right. I have him on ignore but just seeing all his posts (it shows him but not what it says) makes me annoyed already. Let us enjoy or believe whatever the **** we want to! Hopefully he can jump back on the mod preview train soon! 3 Quote Weather station: https://maplevalleywx.com Link to post Share on other sites
TT-SEA 3720 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 What will happen tonight will not roll in from the coast it will develop over us. Watch the visible loop and you can see it happen already. Not seeing it. I am just being honest about the situation. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to post Share on other sites
hawkstwelve 7241 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 I mean for god sake, he posted 5 times just in the time it took me to post that! And I can guarantee every single one of those posts involve proving how it won't snow tonight. Ok. I'm done. Had to get it out. He infuriates me even on ignore. At any rate, I'm hoping for a wonderful surprise because that's the thing about surprises, no model or forecasting tool shows them! Mother Nature can do what she wants and we can cheer her on as much as we want! Clumpy rain/snow here in Redmond area. Cross the fingers everyone! Quote Weather station: https://maplevalleywx.com Link to post Share on other sites
BLI snowman 6797 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Probably will get 1-2" tonight up here before a quick melt tomorrow evening. I'll take it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TT-SEA 3720 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Probably will get 1-2" tonight up here before a quick melt tomorrow evening. I'll take it. I agree with that forecast for Bellingham. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to post Share on other sites
GHweatherChris 3496 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Probably will get 1-2" tonight up here before a quick melt tomorrow evening. I'll take it.No you won't, ask Tim. LOL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MR.SNOWMIZER 6946 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Not seeing it. I am just being honest about the situation.I see it. Not arguing just different views. I respect you so we will see what happens. Quote We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to post Share on other sites
GHweatherChris 3496 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Not seeing it. I am just being honest about the situation.Well considering that 925 temps were above 0 where the light snow did occur this morning, I would say that was surprising. Mesoscale analysis showed 925's at +1 almost everywhere during that time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TT-SEA 3720 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 No you won't, ask Tim. LOL Yes... he will get that. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to post Share on other sites
SilverFallsAndrew 14862 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 DJF departures: EUG -2.8PDX -2.5SLE -1.5 Broke down like this PDX:Dec: -4.0Jan: 0Feb: -3.5 Snow: 8" SLE:Dec: -3.9Jan: +0.1Feb: -0.8 Snow: 10-12" EUG:Dec: -6.3Jan: -1.0Feb: -1.1 Snow: 15.7" Quote Snowfall Precip 2020-21: 10.5" 2020-21: 52.02" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Link to post Share on other sites
TT-SEA 3720 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Well considering that 925 temps were above 0 where the light snow did occur this morning, I would say that was surprising. Mesoscale analysis showed 925's at +1 almost everywhere during that time. Initial benefit of the dry air that moved in yesterday. We have used that up now south of Bellingham. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to post Share on other sites
GHweatherChris 3496 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Initial benefit of the dry air that moved in yesterday. We have used that up now south of Bellingham. As Snowmizer said, different opinions. I already know I will not see anything. It is just funny seeing you shoot down everything anyone says that doesn't jive with what the models show. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TT-SEA 3720 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 As Snowmizer said, different opinions. I already know I will not see anything. It is just funny seeing you shoot down everything anyone says that doesn't jive with what the models show. Because its already happening. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to post Share on other sites
GHweatherChris 3496 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Because its already happening. So what if it is allegedly happening, do you really have to comment on everyone's posts about it, geez LOL. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SilverFallsAndrew 14862 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Great winter recap for the Willamette Valley from Chris Callais. * Low of -10 at Eugene back in December, coldest since Dec 1972* Low of 12 at Portland back in December, 19 in February* High of 18 at Eugene in December, coldest since Dec 1990* High of 23 at Portland on Feb 6th, coldest since 1996 in any month and coldest that late in the winter season since 1933! Latest so cold in PDX (airport) records.* High of 25 at Eugene on Feb 6th, coldest ever so late in the winter season, records back to 1892.* High of 27 at Salem on Feb 6th, coldest so late in the winter season since Feb 1936 and second-coldest ever so late.* 8-16" of snow in most valley locations Portland to Eugene in early February* 5-10" of snow around Albany/Corvallis and Eugene in early December making this winter one of the snowiest in recent memory in the central and south valley.* Sub-freezing highs: 5 in December, 4 in February at Portland (PDX). Average is 3.4 days with highs below freezing in the 1940-2013 period at PDX.* Sub-freezing lows: 14 in December, 12 in January, 10 in February so far. Considering December and January 26 nights below freezing. Average for December-January is 22.6 (1940-2013)* Eugene saw 7" of snow in December and 8.7" in February for a season total of 15.7" so far. Snowiest since the 18.2" in 1992-93.* Portland saw 0.7" of snow in December and 7.3" in February for a season total of 8.0", snowiest since 2008-09." 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2020-21: 10.5" 2020-21: 52.02" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Link to post Share on other sites
MR.SNOWMIZER 6946 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Mix of rain and snow here in port orchard wIth a falling temp. Car says 37 down from 39. Quote We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to post Share on other sites
SilverFallsAndrew 14862 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Also would like to note that it warms my heart that Eugene actually recorded official snowfall data this winter. Quote Snowfall Precip 2020-21: 10.5" 2020-21: 52.02" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Link to post Share on other sites
GHweatherChris 3496 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Mix of rain and snow here in port orchard wIth a falling temp. Car says 37 down from 39.Liar, that is impossible. Pics or it didn't happen. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MossMan 10587 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Still spitting snowflakes here with a current temp of 40 degrees. DP is 28. What a dramatic change from yesterday's upper 50's and wall to wall sunshine. The breeze outside is biting cold! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HighlandExperience 1458 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Great winter recap for the Willamette Valley from Chris Callais. * Low of -10 at Eugene back in December, coldest since Dec 1972* Low of 12 at Portland back in December, 19 in February* High of 18 at Eugene in December, coldest since Dec 1990* High of 23 at Portland on Feb 6th, coldest since 1996 in any month and coldest that late in the winter season since 1933! Latest so cold in PDX (airport) records.* High of 25 at Eugene on Feb 6th, coldest ever so late in the winter season, records back to 1892.* High of 27 at Salem on Feb 6th, coldest so late in the winter season since Feb 1936 and second-coldest ever so late.* 8-16" of snow in most valley locations Portland to Eugene in early February* 5-10" of snow around Albany/Corvallis and Eugene in early December making this winter one of the snowiest in recent memory in the central and south valley.* Sub-freezing highs: 5 in December, 4 in February at Portland (PDX). Average is 3.4 days with highs below freezing in the 1940-2013 period at PDX.* Sub-freezing lows: 14 in December, 12 in January, 10 in February so far. Considering December and January 26 nights below freezing. Average for December-January is 22.6 (1940-2013)* Eugene saw 7" of snow in December and 8.7" in February for a season total of 15.7" so far. Snowiest since the 18.2" in 1992-93.* Portland saw 0.7" of snow in December and 7.3" in February for a season total of 8.0", snowiest since 2008-09."Reading those snow totals remind me how pathetic the lowland climate is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TT-SEA 3720 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Liar, that is impossible. Pics or it didn't happen. Of course its possible. A given actually with the dry air influx yesterday. Still measures zero snowfall though! Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to post Share on other sites
GHweatherChris 3496 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Of course its possible. A given actually with the dry air influx yesterday. Still measures zero snowfall though!Some of us actually enjoy seeing snow falling even if it doesn't stick. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TT-SEA 3720 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Some of us actually enjoy seeing snow falling even if it doesn't stick. Me too! Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to post Share on other sites
SilverFallsAndrew 14862 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Quite a bit of rain at my location today. Quote Snowfall Precip 2020-21: 10.5" 2020-21: 52.02" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Link to post Share on other sites
BLI snowman 6797 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 See ya Don! Have a good month! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IbrChris 956 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Great winter recap for the Willamette Valley from Chris Callais. * Low of -10 at Eugene back in December, coldest since Dec 1972* Low of 12 at Portland back in December, 19 in February* High of 18 at Eugene in December, coldest since Dec 1990* High of 23 at Portland on Feb 6th, coldest since 1996 in any month and coldest that late in the winter season since 1933! Latest so cold in PDX (airport) records.* High of 25 at Eugene on Feb 6th, coldest ever so late in the winter season, records back to 1892.* High of 27 at Salem on Feb 6th, coldest so late in the winter season since Feb 1936 and second-coldest ever so late.* 8-16" of snow in most valley locations Portland to Eugene in early February* 5-10" of snow around Albany/Corvallis and Eugene in early December making this winter one of the snowiest in recent memory in the central and south valley.* Sub-freezing highs: 5 in December, 4 in February at Portland (PDX). Average is 3.4 days with highs below freezing in the 1940-2013 period at PDX.* Sub-freezing lows: 14 in December, 12 in January, 10 in February so far. Considering December and January 26 nights below freezing. Average for December-January is 22.6 (1940-2013)* Eugene saw 7" of snow in December and 8.7" in February for a season total of 15.7" so far. Snowiest since the 18.2" in 1992-93.* Portland saw 0.7" of snow in December and 7.3" in February for a season total of 8.0", snowiest since 2008-09." We can tally up sub-freezing nights now for Dec-Feb. Looks like we had 37 freezing nights this winter compared to an average of 31.2 (1940-2013) Quote The Pacific Northwest: Where storms go to die. Link to post Share on other sites
Deweydog 14098 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Have fun storming the castle! Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to post Share on other sites
HighlandExperience 1458 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Just had a heavy snowshower here in Issaquah. Nice to see snow this winter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MossMan 10587 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Snow really coming down again here! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil 11763 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Of course its possible. A given actually with the dry air influx yesterday. Still measures zero snowfall though!TROLLOLOLOL Quote Personal Weather Station: NOAA: https://www.wrh.noaa.gov/mesowest/timeseries.php?sid=F3819&num=168&banner=NONE Wunderground: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62/graph/2019-08-23/2019-08-23/daily Link to post Share on other sites
Deweydog 14098 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Me too! My god. You're seriously gonna pull something soon. Hopefully you're stretching properly and getting plenty of potassium and electrolytes. 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to post Share on other sites
hawkstwelve 7241 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Co-worker just informed he drove in from down in the South Sound and it was snowing from Federal Way all the way up 405 til you reached about I-90. Not sticking of course, but fun nonetheless. Although, the GFS MOS guidance says it wasn't supposed to be cold enough for snow! And we've used up all our dry air south of Bellingham! What are we to do? How is this possibly happening? 1 Quote Weather station: https://maplevalleywx.com Link to post Share on other sites
seattleweatherguy 480 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 snow here not stickimg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TT-SEA 3720 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 My god. You're seriously gonna pull something soon. Hopefully you're stretching properly and getting plenty of potassium and electrolytes. 2 bananas a day. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to post Share on other sites
TT-SEA 3720 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Co-worker just informed he drove in from down in the South Sound and it was snowing from Federal Way all the way up 405 til you reached about I-90. Not sticking of course, but fun nonetheless. Although, the GFS MOS guidance says it wasn't supposed to be cold enough for snow! And we've used up all our dry air south of Bellingham! What are we to do? How is this possibly happening? Nobody said there would not be some snow in the air. I believe I have said about 10 times that was a given with the dry air intrusion yesterday. But there is not likely going to be accumulating snow in the Seattle area. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to post Share on other sites
TT-SEA 3720 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Hmmmm... south winds gusting to 23 mph at Chehalis with 50 degrees. Possible surprise? Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to post Share on other sites
MossMan 10587 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Temp is really starting to drop now, was up to 41 just about 45min ago, down to 37 now! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MR.SNOWMIZER 6946 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Hmmmm... south winds gusting to 23 mph at Chehalis with 50 degrees. Possible surprise?You only have 2 bananas a day?? You wimp. Lol Quote We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to post Share on other sites
TT-SEA 3720 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Temp is really starting to drop now, was up to 41 just about 45min ago, down to 37 now! Should be in the teens by midnight at that rate. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to post Share on other sites
MR.SNOWMIZER 6946 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 In Tim's defense. The problem we might have is there is a window of opportunity to use the power of the dry air. Imagine a dry sponge that can only handle so much water, thats the air mass. What we dont want is a slow saturation of the air mass if we want snow. It would be better if it was dry today for the better onset of precipitation later tonight or tomorrow. I am not seeing that much offshore wind over here. I am a realist when it comes to this and will admit when the obvious is happening. Quote We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to post Share on other sites
GHweatherChris 3496 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Tim, your act is not cute anymore. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MR.SNOWMIZER 6946 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 I have been watching that low for monday and tuesday. It is a little further south then yesterday. Just something to watch. Whenever there is cold air to the north to tap you just never know for sure what will and could happen. Quote We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to post Share on other sites
TT-SEA 3720 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 In Tim's defense. The problem we might have is there is a window of opportunity to use the power of the dry air. Imagine a dry sponge that can only handle so much water, thats the air mass. What we dont want is a slow saturation of the air mass if we want snow. It would be better if it was dry today for the better onset of precipitation later tonight or tomorrow. I am not seeing that much offshore wind over here. I am a realist when it comes to this and will admit when the obvious is happening. In my defense?? For stating the obvious and being realistic on a weather forum? Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to post Share on other sites
MR.SNOWMIZER 6946 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 In my defense?? For stating the obvious and being realistic on a weather forum? Honestly I am sticking up for you. All you have done is go by what the mm5 and mos guidance is showing. And you are taking heat for it. Lol. Quote We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to post Share on other sites
TT-SEA 3720 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Honestly I am sticking up for you. All you have done is go by what the mm5 and mos guidance is showing. And you are taking heat to it. Lol.j Plus you can clearly see a low moving up the coast right now on the satellite. Southerly flow usually follows a low moving up the coast. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to post Share on other sites
MR.SNOWMIZER 6946 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Plus you can clearly see a low moving up the coast right now on the satellite. Southerly flow usually follows a low moving up the coast.On this forum a arctic blizzard. In reality some sw wind. Quote We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to post Share on other sites
GHweatherChris 3496 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 The Winter Storm Watch in Shelton is now upgraded to a warning. So, the NWS sees something that could make this a decent event in areas well south of Bellingham. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MossMan 10587 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 NE wind has really picked up here, it's going to snow tonight and stick. Just has that feel about it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MR.SNOWMIZER 6946 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 The Winter Storm Watch in Shelton is now upgraded to a warning. So, the NWS sees something that could make this a decent event in areas well south of Bellingham.This is going to be interesting. The cold air is making its way south. There is a south wind south of Olympia. There could be some good lift and dynamics somewhere in between. 1 Quote We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to post Share on other sites
GHweatherChris 3496 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 This is going to be interesting. The cold air is making its way south. There is a south wind south of Olympia. There could be some good lift and dynamics somewhere in between.Yeah, bummer that I stand zero chance at all, but oh well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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