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January 2023 Observations and Discussions


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1 hour ago, jaster220 said:

30th and 31st only days BN here at DTW. Cut the monthly departure to "only" +7.7 LOL. Now we have true winter temps brrr. At least it is not brown cold ground! Been two sunny days as well finally. Just taking the edge off of single digit mornings.

We’ve had about 12 days of winter so far this year.  Snow looks to vanish by next Thursday.   Will it come back is the question.   But staying power is out the window as we head to mid-February.  

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11 minutes ago, Stacsh said:

We’ve had about 12 days of winter so far this year.  Snow looks to vanish by next Thursday.   Will it come back is the question.   But staying power is out the window as we head to mid-February.  

For here anyways, it has been showing up in one form or another the final 1/3 of each month. So I'll see ya in about 3 wks for what hopefully will be winter's last hurrah" for this region at least. GR can get winter well into April whereas it is much less common after mid-March for Detroit. Ofc there was April of 1886 that delivered Detroit's biggest storm, but that was an infamously harsh and snowy winter for the US in general. Peeps keep referring to "horrible 11-12" but lol I had 44" that winter in Marshall. I'm miles away from that right now. 

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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12 minutes ago, Stacsh said:

We’ve had about 12 days of winter so far this year.  Snow looks to vanish by next Thursday.   Will it come back is the question.   But staying power is out the window as we head to mid-February.  

Tbh, since I no longer have the following to do during winter (snowmobiles, skiing, taking the kids sledding and ice skating, snow removal for my property) I am not sure if I will "like" a truly long and harsh winter again if and when it decides to show up. Three lame ones in a row has me kinda softened-up. I still enjoyed tracking that decent storm we got a week ago, but yikes at weeks of CAD & zzz's in between. 

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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9 hours ago, jaster220 said:

Tbh, since I no longer have the following to do during winter (snowmobiles, skiing, taking the kids sledding and ice skating, snow removal for my property) I am not sure if I will "like" a truly long and harsh winter again if and when it decides to show up. Three lame ones in a row has me kinda softened-up. I still enjoyed tracking that decent storm we got a week ago, but yikes at weeks of CAD & zzz's in between. 

You said it right there my friend....I feel the same way...at least this holiday season, we were tracking a winter storm and had snow OTG for Christmas along with the cold, but that was short-live and disappeared the following week.  Sadly, I think the Nina's are no bueno for our region due to the lack of any sustained -NAO/-AO that can block things up during the heart of Winter.  I'm really considering getting an AirBnB next winter up in the mountains somewhere and enjoy winter that way.  Back loaded winters don't really have the same "feel" for me like they did when I was younger.

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14 hours ago, Stacsh said:

We’ve had about 12 days of winter so far this year.  Snow looks to vanish by next Thursday.   Will it come back is the question.   But staying power is out the window as we head to mid-February.  

12 days only? Aren't you near Grand Rapids? It has recorded a trace or more of snow on 34 different days since Dec. 1st. This includes 10 straight days of some snow to end Jan. Come next Thursday when you suggest the snow will be gone, will that be like 2-3 weeks you have had had snow on the ground in a row? 

Here down in KC, we would give anything for 5 straight days of snow cover let alone 2+ weeks of snow cover. 

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1 hour ago, MIKEKC said:

12 days only? Aren't you near Grand Rapids? It has recorded a trace or more of snow on 34 different days since Dec. 1st. This includes 10 straight days of some snow to end Jan. Come next Thursday when you suggest the snow will be gone, will that be like 2-3 weeks you have had had snow on the ground in a row? 

Here down in KC, we would give anything for 5 straight days of snow cover let alone 2+ weeks of snow cover. 

yeah, but lake effect flurries are boring lol.  For the most part, we had plowable snow right before Thanksgiving, which melted fairly quickly.   Than right before Christmas. (the blizzard that could have been).  Then it disappeared by New Years.  Then we had .6" through January 20th.  Now the last 2 weeks we've had the two storms and a little Lake effect snow.  So basically we've had winter conditions for about 4 days in November, 6 days in December and from January 22nd to now.   

Now we are above normal in snowfall for the WHOLE season already.  But it sure doesn't feel that way.  The lake giveth and the lake taketh away.  

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19 minutes ago, tStacsh said:

Now we are above normal in snowfall for the WHOLE season already.  But it sure doesn't feel that way.  The lake giveth and the lake taketh away.  

The official snow fall amount so far this winter season at Grand Rapids is now at 81.1" but there has only been 32 days with 1" or more on the ground.  So there have been 3 big snow events but not much snow staying on the ground. 

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