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1 minute ago, TT-SEA said:

Not sure... here is what the ECMWF shows for current 925 temps.

 

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It does have that cold blob where Chris is.  Probably pretty accurate.

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Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 7.5"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 10

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.4"

Coldest Low = 17

Lows 32 or below = 43

Highs 32 or below = 2

Lows 20 or below = 2

Highs 40 or below = 17

 

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1 minute ago, snow_wizard said:

Kold!  Very impressive they are minus for this month.  That will give them an incredibly cold winter overall.

Second coldest November to January 20th on record there behind 1985-1986

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4 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Not sure... here is what the ECMWF shows for current 925 temps.

There is some cold air between your area and the coast.  

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Is shows 2 here and it has been on and off snow showers.

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3 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

My mother in law grew up in a shack near Ravendale, CA… I couldn’t believe how cold that area is when I looked a few years ago. 

Insane diurnal spreads that far south though.

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Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 7.5"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 10

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.4"

Coldest Low = 17

Lows 32 or below = 43

Highs 32 or below = 2

Lows 20 or below = 2

Highs 40 or below = 17

 

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1 minute ago, snow_wizard said:

Kold!  Very impressive they are minus for this month.  That will give them an incredibly cold winter overall.

A couple things are working for their benefit this year. Overall not a lot of strong storms to mix them out, and they have had snow cover since early November. What I’ve noticed for them is when they get a decent snow pack the Harney basin generates a ton of low level cold air. I couldn’t tell you how big the Harney Basin is, but probably not smaller than King County. Check out January 2013 over there. Absolutely bonkers. On the other hand February 2019 and January 1969 were about average there. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 13.9"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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GEFS not quite as cold on this run, but still decent.

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Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 7.5"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 10

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.4"

Coldest Low = 17

Lows 32 or below = 43

Highs 32 or below = 2

Lows 20 or below = 2

Highs 40 or below = 17

 

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1 minute ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

Is shows 2 here and it has been on and off snow showers.

Shows 4C here, and it looks like precip starting as sleet right now. Thickness drops to 528 here this afternoon, so upper levels cooling from the west. 925s are fairly irrelevant imo. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 13.9"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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2 minutes ago, Doinko said:

Second coldest November to January 20th on record there behind 1985-1986

Crazy. They never really mixed out fully the first half of January when most of the region was having a milder spell. High of just 44 on the 7th. One of only three days above 40 there this month so far.

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32 here, 42 on the ridge at the park so there is a solid warm layer at the moment. Very light grapuel now. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 13.9"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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13 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

Grapple!

Isn’t graupel usually convective? I’m not sure what to call some of what’s been falling this morning. A mix between flurries and sleet. Seems to be closer to straight snow for the time being.

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Surface dewpoints also important in this set up... per the new 12Z ECMWF dewpoints shown this morning, at 4 p.m. and at 1 a.m. tomorrow morning.

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Just now, SouthHillFrosty said:

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Easy rule of thumb... no snow for Randy then throw it out.   That is nonsensical.  😀

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Medford hit 23 this morning 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 13.9"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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38 minutes ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

I've learned this year that the 925 temp isn't always the final say so. Me and Chris have had snow a couple times with the 925 above zero. But then I think maybe the observation of the current 925 isn't accurate?

Thank you wet bulb cooling. 

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3 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Surface dewpoints also important in this set up... per the new 12Z ECMWF dewpoints shown this morning, at 4 p.m. and at 1 a.m. tomorrow morning.

ecmwf-deterministic-washington-dew2m_c-4316800.png

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Surface conditions currently suck for snow up this way. YVR’s most recent report was temperature 38.5°F, dew point 36.9°F. Normally I would say “no way!” at this point. But the stuff coming in on the radar looks heavy. So we shall see.

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The 12z GEFS actually gets really nice.  Just takes a bit longer than the 0z and 6z to get the coldest.

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Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 7.5"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 10

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.4"

Coldest Low = 17

Lows 32 or below = 43

Highs 32 or below = 2

Lows 20 or below = 2

Highs 40 or below = 17

 

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Currently 34.5. Got down to 27 this morning. Coldest January temp so far.

2022-2023 Winter Stats

Total Snowfall - 14.25”

Max Snow Depth - 6”

Coldest High Temp - 23F

Coldest Low Temp - 11F

Number of Freezes - 43

Sub-40 highs - 16

Highs 32 or lower - 3

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Surface conditions currently suck for snow up this way. YVR’s most recent report was temperature 38.5°F, dew point 36.9°F. Normally I would say “no way!” at this point. But the stuff coming in on the radar looks heavy. So we shall see.

Mostly dry and 41F here in Duncan ATM.  There was a dusting of snow early this morning on the hills above about 2000ft. 

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8 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Surface conditions currently suck for snow up this way. YVR’s most recent report was temperature 38.5°F, dew point 36.9°F. Normally I would say “no way!” at this point. But the stuff coming in on the radar looks heavy. So we shall see.

Yeah...the low level cold seeped in from the ESE with this.  Bad for Whatcom County.  Still only 32 here.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 7.5"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 10

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.4"

Coldest Low = 17

Lows 32 or below = 43

Highs 32 or below = 2

Lows 20 or below = 2

Highs 40 or below = 17

 

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31 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Isn’t graupel usually convective? I’m not sure what to call some of what’s been falling this morning. A mix between flurries and sleet. Seems to be closer to straight snow for the time being.

I assume the fact it’s kind of a dynamic system helps. The radar returns definitely has a bit of a convective look to them.

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4 minutes ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

One of my chickens died yesterday and it was my fault. We always give them treats like smashed up chips in the bottom of the bag, I shake the bag and they come running up to the house or out of the woods. Yesterday I gave them a bunch of smashed up tortilla chips like I always do. I was doing yard work and I kept hearing a weird sound like weezing and found that one of the smaller hens was struggling to breath. Long story short she ate the ships to fast and didn't drink water and she choked to death. I tried everything I could in a panic trying to fix her, held her upside down tapping her back, rubbed her neck and throat area, stuck a small clear tube down her throat gently blowing air into her lungs to try and clear the blockage.  Kept her alive for 45 minutes pumping air into her lungs. Never have I experienced anything like this. When I was holding her upside down I got a massive amount of small smashed up chips out of her . I know it's just a chicken and I might sound dumb but they are pets to us not live stock.  10 years ago I would of just killed it and not blinked but I've become very sensitive to death the last few years and this was my fault 💔.  Sorry for long post but I had to tell someone the story.

Wow.  Very touching I think.  I know what you mean about being more sensitive to death.  A lot of extended family members and two friends have died in the last few years.  Also just found out my father in law has pancreatic cancer.  Life is precious!

Posting this might also keep somebody from making the same mistake.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 7.5"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 10

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.4"

Coldest Low = 17

Lows 32 or below = 43

Highs 32 or below = 2

Lows 20 or below = 2

Highs 40 or below = 17

 

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1 minute ago, Doinko said:

Euro day 5
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Has the classic look of the 0z.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 7.5"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 10

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.4"

Coldest Low = 17

Lows 32 or below = 43

Highs 32 or below = 2

Lows 20 or below = 2

Highs 40 or below = 17

 

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8 minutes ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

One of my chickens died yesterday and it was my fault. We always give them treats like smashed up chips in the bottom of the bag, I shake the bag and they come running up to the house or out of the woods. Yesterday I gave them a bunch of smashed up tortilla chips like I always do. I was doing yard work and I kept hearing a weird sound like weezing and found that one of the smaller hens was struggling to breath. Long story short she ate the ships to fast and didn't drink water and she choked to death. I tried everything I could in a panic trying to fix her, held her upside down tapping her back, rubbed her neck and throat area, stuck a small clear tube down her throat gently blowing air into her lungs to try and clear the blockage.  Kept her alive for 45 minutes pumping air into her lungs. Never have I experienced anything like this. When I was holding her upside down I got a massive amount of small smashed up chips out of her . I know it's just a chicken and I might sound dumb but they are pets to us not live stock.  10 years ago I would of just killed it and not blinked but I've become very sensitive to death the last few years and this was my fault 💔.  Sorry for long post but I had to tell someone the story.

I really respect and relate with this level of value for life.

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