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Just now, TT-SEA said:

Wasn't that a quick hitter in an otherwise warm month?    This seems more persistent.

The second shortwave is pretty similar as progged by the international camp. A lot weaker, but seems to evolve rapidly and skips the whole persistent southerly flow hangups we routinely get down here. 

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1 minute ago, BLI snowman said:

Would be funny to have our first legit major upper level event in January in decades come in the waning hours of the 31st. 

Should it happen, I fully expect us to switch to Arctic conditions just after midnight on the 1. There's actually a contract that has somehow been signed to prevent January snowfall or Arctic conditions in this location per the terms of the 2-25-19 deal.

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Springfield, Oregon regular season 22-23 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 31F (Dec 22, 2022)
  • Coldest low: 16F (Jan 30, 2023)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 60 (Most recent: Mar 27, 2023)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 5 (Most recent: Jan 30, 2023)
  • Total snowfall: Enough to give the winter an A
  • Last accumulating snowfall: Mar 5, 2023
  • Last sub-freezing high: Dec 22, 2022 (31F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall: Mar 5, 2023
  • Last sub-freezing high: Dec 22, 2022 (31F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 1

 

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Just now, BLI snowman said:

Would be funny to have our first legit major upper level event in January in decades come in the waning hours of the 31st. 

1989 has been the best strat analog since late December. Big W1 breakdown late January 1989, QBO full westerly, healthy La Niña, heading into solar maximum.

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It doesn't even deserve to be dignified with a response. Such a garbage post. Beneath than the lint in my dryer. About as valuable as an invasive species of tick.

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50" 🥳

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"*

-Most recent snowfall: 1”; February 26th, 2023

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

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2 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

It doesn't even deserve to be dignified with a response. Such a garbage post. Beneath than the lint in my dryer. About as valuable as an invasive species of tick.

Where is this post? I wanna read it. 🤠

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2 minutes ago, TigerWoodsLibido said:

Should it happen, I fully expect us to switch to Arctic conditions just after midnight on the 1. There's actually a contract that has somehow been signed to prevent January snowfall or Arctic conditions in this location per the terms of the 2-25-19 deal.

Even seeing a modeled blast at this point makes this January a major win by 21st century standards! Beats probably 75% of them.

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6 minutes ago, Phil said:

Anything’s possible lol.

Best vibes are coming from the Hadley Cell/ML low pass. Now *much* improved over 2020-22. Looks like the 4CH could be quite a bit weaker this year.

The implications of a weaker 4CH could mean some SAD TEARS this summer from some, though they might get lost in sheets of rain ;)

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50" 🥳

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"*

-Most recent snowfall: 1”; February 26th, 2023

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

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1 minute ago, Meatyorologist said:

It doesn't even deserve to be dignified with a response. Such a garbage post. Beneath than the lint in my dryer. About as valuable as an invasive species of tick.

Wow.    It was an honest question though... the last wet summer we had was during a Nino.    A shake up might be good.

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1 minute ago, Meatyorologist said:

The implications of a weaker 4CH could mean some SAD TEARS this summer from some, though they might get lost in sheets of rain ;)

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Springfield, Oregon regular season 22-23 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 31F (Dec 22, 2022)
  • Coldest low: 16F (Jan 30, 2023)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 60 (Most recent: Mar 27, 2023)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 5 (Most recent: Jan 30, 2023)
  • Total snowfall: Enough to give the winter an A
  • Last accumulating snowfall: Mar 5, 2023
  • Last sub-freezing high: Dec 22, 2022 (31F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall: Mar 5, 2023
  • Last sub-freezing high: Dec 22, 2022 (31F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 1

 

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Just now, Meatyorologist said:

The implications of a weaker 4CH could mean some SAD TEARS this summer from some, though they might get lost in sheets of rain ;)

Lol. It helps but doesn’t preclude a warm/hot summer. Still doable. :( 

But at least the entire west won’t be on fire this year (hopefully).

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2 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

The implications of a weaker 4CH could mean some SAD TEARS this summer from some, though they might get lost in sheets of rain ;)

I would gladly take a 2019 summer over another summer/fall like 2022.  

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4 minutes ago, Phil said:

1989 has been the best strat analog since late December. Big W1 breakdown late January 1989, QBO full westerly, healthy La Niña, heading into solar maximum.

Unfortunately we don't have a big reservoir of -50 to -70F temps in AK to tap into this go around :( Probably due to the lack of Aqua Net. 

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Just now, Phil said:

Lol. It helps but doesn’t preclude a warm/hot summer. Still doable. :( 

But at least the entire west won’t be on fire this year (hopefully).

Fully expect to reach to at least Von Miller's jersey number of 90Fs.

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Springfield, Oregon regular season 22-23 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 31F (Dec 22, 2022)
  • Coldest low: 16F (Jan 30, 2023)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 60 (Most recent: Mar 27, 2023)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 5 (Most recent: Jan 30, 2023)
  • Total snowfall: Enough to give the winter an A
  • Last accumulating snowfall: Mar 5, 2023
  • Last sub-freezing high: Dec 22, 2022 (31F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall: Mar 5, 2023
  • Last sub-freezing high: Dec 22, 2022 (31F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 1

 

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Just now, BLI snowman said:

Unfortunately we don't have a big reservoir of -50 to -70F temps in AK to tap into this go around :( Probably due to the lack of Aqua Net. 

Haha. Yeah that cold is over in Putin territory this year.

Goes to show how complicated analogs can be. Rarely can you take a year and just run with it.

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5 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Wow.    It was an honest question though... the last wet summer we had was during a Nino.    A shake up might be good.

I think you and I both know we will all roast and there is just about nothing we can do about it. Who knows though. Summer 2022 marked the tenth summer of the 2013-22 hot stretch. Maybe we'll call it an even ten and be done with it.

But after last summer, with how irredeemably hot it became despite the intense -ENSO and cold Spring preceding it, I have doubts it's possible anymore.

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50" 🥳

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"*

-Most recent snowfall: 1”; February 26th, 2023

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

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Very obvious something has really changed tonight.

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Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 9.2"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.4"

Coldest Low = 17

Lows 32 or below = 72

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 4

Highs 40 or below = 22

 

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Euro is looking amazing! This could really be something!

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2022-2023 Winter Stats

Total Snowfall - 16.5”

Max Snow Depth - 6”

Coldest High Temp - 23F

Coldest Low Temp - 11F

Number of Freezes - 74

Sub-40 highs - 21

Highs 32 or lower - 3

 

 

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1 minute ago, snow_wizard said:

Very obvious something has really changed tonight.

Lemme guess!

Models are showing cold and snow when earlier this month they were not? 

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41 minutes ago, RentonHill said:

Tonga

Speaking of Tonga, the stratosphere is still loaded with H2O. Crazy stuff. At least we’ll get to test whether the climate catastrophists are correct with their doomsday H2O feedback loop. :lol: 

Well…technically this is stratospheric H2O, where as the apocalyptic climate scenarios arise through H2O/lapse rate feedback in the upper troposphere. So it’s not actually testing that theory in its entirety.

But there still should be a statistically significant radiative forcing from the added H2O. We’ll see!

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Not sure if this was posted already, but it's worth noting that tonight's 00z GFS ensemble has a pretty significant amount of extremely snowy members for both Portland and Seattle. This is a dramatic increase from last nights 00z and today's 12z. I suspect there will finally be some solid GFS runs tomorrow.

 

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JMA, ICON, CFS ensemble, and CFS control are all cold.  The GFS is the only outlier.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 9.2"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.4"

Coldest Low = 17

Lows 32 or below = 72

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 4

Highs 40 or below = 22

 

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Managed to clock in a freeze for the day yesterday right before midnight. Warmed back up to 33.4 now.

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2022-2023 Winter Stats

Total Snowfall - 16.5”

Max Snow Depth - 6”

Coldest High Temp - 23F

Coldest Low Temp - 11F

Number of Freezes - 74

Sub-40 highs - 21

Highs 32 or lower - 3

 

 

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