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1 minute ago, Terreboner2 said:

Ya, but I don't hang my hat on a couple of bad runs, more about the trends.  Some of the dudes on here see a bad 12z run and they run for the exits.

I suggested they take a nap earlier.  might help

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Just now, TT-SEA said:

What is the GFS doing?   Wow is that different.  Randy wins again!

playing whack a mole with those cutoffs. popping back and forth on either side of the ridge run to run and Canadian has them all out in the pacific at hr 90

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You have got to be kidding.  The GFS found a way to drop the ball again.  It appeared this run was going places early on.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 9.2"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.4"

Coldest Low = 17

Lows 32 or below = 72

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 4

Highs 40 or below = 22

 

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Major changes so far on the 00z that trough next weekend could end up being something if it doesn’t dig too far offshore.

2022-2023 Winter Stats

Total Snowfall - 16.5”

Max Snow Depth - 6”

Coldest High Temp - 23F

Coldest Low Temp - 11F

Number of Freezes - 74

Sub-40 highs - 21

Highs 32 or lower - 3

 

 

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Oh look massive north south gradient. I’ll take the icon. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 70.5"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Just now, snow_wizard said:

You have got to be kidding.  The GFS found a way to drop the ball again.  It appeared this run was going places early on.

Yeah, not even sure how it's showing this while everything else is showing something massively different.

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Uhhhh yeah nevermind about that gradient. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 70.5"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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I guess it pulls it out of the fire eventually, but the pattern looks tortured and unlikely to happen.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 9.2"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.4"

Coldest Low = 17

Lows 32 or below = 72

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 4

Highs 40 or below = 22

 

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4 minutes ago, Terreboner2 said:

Goofus is good for 72, great for 48, orgasmic for 24, unstable at 12.

It's a joke.  Somebody just needs to shoot it and put it out of its misery.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 9.2"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.4"

Coldest Low = 17

Lows 32 or below = 72

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 4

Highs 40 or below = 22

 

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Just now, SpaceRace22 said:

That is absolutely bizarre. That's an hour 300+ level of run to run change.

Terrible model.  It was terrible with the last cold event too.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 9.2"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.4"

Coldest Low = 17

Lows 32 or below = 72

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 4

Highs 40 or below = 22

 

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I *adore* this run but it's definitely one of those weird GFS one and done quirks. But I'm enjoying the eye candy while it lasts 😅

 

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56 minutes ago, SouthHillFrosty said:

Can I get a refund? I thought we were having a 2019 redux 

 

Two feet in Austin, TX. Seems legit.

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Everett Snowfall (510 feet elevation)

Snow since February 2019: 85"

2022-23: 17.5"

2021-22: 17.75"

2020-21: 14.5”

2019-20: 10.5"

2018-19: 24.75"

 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

You have got to be kidding.  The GFS found a way to drop the ball again.  It appeared this run was going places early on.

The foot of snow it drops here this weekend would be an egregious missed opportunity for sure.

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The 500mb pattern just looks so bizarre on this one I just don't know what to think. But that said, one thing I am really liking about this run is that the bitterly cold air is way closer with -30 850mb temps hanging out just over the border in BC. Previous runs have had anything colder than -25 sliding way off to the east into Montana.

 

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5 minutes ago, Gradient Keeper said:

Day 6 (4-run trend)

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The block tries to pinch off way too fast on this run.  Not buying it.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 9.2"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.4"

Coldest Low = 17

Lows 32 or below = 72

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 4

Highs 40 or below = 22

 

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