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3 hours ago, Deweydog said:

Yeah, it’s just been a rough few weeks for the ol’ spinner and getting rougher. Bruised and battered but still alive.

Yep, it’s just going to sit there and rot away with the W1 structure present. 1989 was did it much quicker with a huge swing from record +U to record -U at 10mb.

2023 is timed similarity, but it’s a weak sauce version of it. And the good cold is still over in Asia.

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2 hours ago, SouthHillFrosty said:

If Mossman can’t have snow, nobody can😂

Lol I think I’m turning into mossman. Following in his footsteps, I’ve been browsing over all my past weather pics/videos back to 2013, looking for a snow fix and a hit of sweet nostalgia.

2 hours ago, Deweydog said:

You guys are completely screwed up there.

Welcome to the club. 🍻 

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6 minutes ago, Phil said:

Yep, it’s just going to sit there and rot away with the W1 structure present. 1989 was did it much quicker with a huge swing from record +U to record -U at 10mb.

2023 is timed similarity, but it’s a weak sauce version of it. And the good cold is still over in Asia.

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Lol I think I’m turning into mossman. Following in his footsteps, I’ve been browsing over all my past weather pics/videos back to 2013, looking for a snow fix and a hit of sweet nostalgia.

Welcome to the club. 🍻 

How many pics do you have between the 2012/13-2022/23 seasons? I am at 4,116. Funny that my phone thinks my plow attachment for my mower is a “snowmobile” though technically it’s not wrong…

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24 minutes ago, MossMan said:

Not enough. Was hoping for a major grand finale! 

Still time for something later on in February…but I’m not too bullish on that yet. I get the disappointment no matter how much you get in a winter it sucks to miss out especially in this climate where it’s hard to get snow in the first place. I’m just glad that this won’t be a complete dud of a winter as it stands now. We’ve had an amazing run since 2016-2017 this winter was no exception. 

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22-23 cold season stats

Coldest max-25

Coldest min-19

Sub 40 highs-14

Sub 32 highs-2

Sub 32 lows-42

Total snowfall-7.6”

Monthly rainfall-2.40”

Wet season rainfall-20.79”

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31 minutes ago, TacomaWx said:

We did! Many are still upset tho…we had a high of 25 here and 6” of snow so far this winter. I’d understand being upset if none of that had happened prior to this but c’mon we had a good run earlier. 

The cold was legit. But that 6" was like 6 days of .5" each that melted in 12 hours and 1" going into the cold. Not exactly a real snowy picture for most of the Sound. Obviously better than .25" and ice, but I don't think anyone is contesting that.

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2022-23 Winter:

11/29: .25" + 1" = 1.25" | 11/30: .25"

12/2: .2" + .5" = .7" | 12/3: .2" | 12/4: trace

12/18: .4" | 12/19: .2" + .8" = 1.0" | 12/20: .2 + 1.5" = 1.7

1/31: trace | 2/14: trace | 2/22: .2 | 2/26: 1.0"

Total: 6.7"

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Can't be this difficult to get a bit of snow-- at least the Arctic front still has a distinct snow signature. 

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4 minutes ago, Seattle said:

The cold was legit. But that 6" was like 6 days of .5" each that melted in 12 hours and 1" going into the cold. Not exactly a real snowy picture for most of the Sound. Obviously better than .25" and ice, but I don't think anyone is contesting that.

True…we did never get more than 2” snow depth at one time. But it was pretty decent still and far from a bust. 

22-23 cold season stats

Coldest max-25

Coldest min-19

Sub 40 highs-14

Sub 32 highs-2

Sub 32 lows-42

Total snowfall-7.6”

Monthly rainfall-2.40”

Wet season rainfall-20.79”

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40 minutes ago, TacomaWx said:

We did! Many are still upset tho…we had a high of 25 here and 6” of snow so far this winter. I’d understand being upset if none of that had happened prior to this but c’mon we had a good run earlier. 

I’m not that bummed this is turning into a dry blast especially since I’m already at 14” of snow for the winter with a 23/11 day as well so it’s definitely been a good one IMBY. Can’t complain if I don’t get snow out of this. At least there’s the cold temperatures to look forward to if you are into that.

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2022-2023 Winter Stats

Total Snowfall - 16.5”

Max Snow Depth - 6”

Coldest High Temp - 23F

Coldest Low Temp - 11F

Number of Freezes - 71

Sub-40 highs - 21

Highs 32 or lower - 3

 

 

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26 minutes ago, SnowWillarrive said:

Further east trumps everything. 

Very true. There are inland and mountain climates well to the south of us and within the western US that clobber even Pretentius Knowitallus’s backyard.

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45 minutes ago, Phil said:

Yeah I’m still not 100% sure why things work this way. Probably has something to do with seasonal lag in arctic cooling (bottoms out late febryary/early march) and seasonality in wavelengths.

h/t to Brian B.

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Upper Michigan and Buffalo are pretty interesting. I guess the Great Lakes have a seasonal lag with the temps but they still get blasted by snow yearly. 

All those moments will be lost in time. . .
like tears in snow.
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2 minutes ago, Bueryan said:

I know this is a weather forum and so I keep my mouth shut, but snow maps at 250hrs+ are for people who go to strip clubs with hope. 

I always think it’s fun to imagine how your handle is pronounced 

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3 minutes ago, HuskyMaestro said:

Upper Michigan and Buffalo are pretty interesting. I guess the Great Lakes have a seasonal lag with the temps but they still get blasted by snow yearly. 

its more about when the lakes come close to freezing over (in years they do).  the moderating effects of the lake diminish with the more the ice cover becomes

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4 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

I always think it’s fun to imagine how your handle is pronounced 

Some day when we all put on chains and trudge through the snow to meet at a bar, and Frosty buys us the first round, (I think it was him who said he'd do that?) I'd love to hear your attempts.

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5 minutes ago, Bueryan said:

Some day when we all put on chains and trudge through the snow to meet at a bar, and Frosty buys us the first round, (I think it was him who said he'd do that?) I'd love to hear your attempts.

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22 minutes ago, Bueryan said:

I know this is a weather forum and so I keep my mouth shut, but snow maps at 250hrs+ are for people who go to strip clubs with hope. 

Hope only works on Saturday’s at the club 

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11 minutes ago, Bueryan said:

Some day when we all put on chains and trudge through the snow to meet at a bar, and Frosty buys us the first round, (I think it was him who said he'd do that?) I'd love to hear your attempts.

First round is on me. No matter if we get 5 ppl or 50 ppl 

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6 minutes ago, ShawniganLake said:

Should be a few record highs in central BC today. Clinton is 45F currently. Record high is 41F from 2006

Had a nice dry blast a few weeks later that year!

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53 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Very true. There are inland and mountain climates well to the south of us and within the western US that clobber even Pretentius Knowitallus’s backyard.

I guess I have a reputation to live up to now. I will strive not to disappoint.

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It's called clown range for a reason.

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9 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

Hey hey the NAM’s in play!!!

Time for some NAM snow maps then!  

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2 minutes ago, Gradient Keeper said:

18z ICON digging southwest bit better too.

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That is trending faster... not the trend direction people in western WA would want.

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1 hour ago, Cold Snap said:

I’m really not that surprised this is turning out to be a dry blast because I feel like it’s been a while since one. It sucks for the Portland folks though because when they finally get a decent arctic blast it comes with little to no snow. 

This weekend's setup just isn't a big snowstorm setup for PDX. We very rarely get a sharp arctic front let alone one with enough juice for any significant snow accumulation after the front passes. IMO the top end outcome for this weekend would be 1-3 inches in PDX. More realistically it will be some snow in the air or a dusting since it will probably go dry once it is cold enough, a very familiar situation for us...

Most of the big snowstorms here come from overrunning once the cold air is already in place paired with offshore flow through the gorge. A nice BC slider can also produce good results. The late December sleet event here was very close to a significant snow storm, we had every ingredient but the top of the column was just a bit too warm. 

A good overrunning event sometime next week still seems possible at least. 

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38 minutes ago, Bueryan said:

Some day when we all put on chains and trudge through the snow to meet at a bar, and Frosty buys us the first round, (I think it was him who said he'd do that?) I'd love to hear your attempts.

Idk why but this reminded me of this 

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1 hour ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

I for one am very happy to see a shot of arctic air at the tail end of January, even if it’s mostly dry. This stretch of calendar has been way overdue and in this rapidly warming climate we take what we can get.

Case in point, my lowest highs in the last 12 years for the last week of January:

39.3 25th
40.3 26th
39.5 27th
42.2 28th
44.5 29th
44.6 30th
42.3 31st
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18Z GFS... we can always count on the GFS to assume accumulating snow with temps in the mid to upper 30s.  

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For reference... this is where its above freezing and below freezing at 4 p.m. on Saturday per the 18Z GFS.     Precip is already done at this point from King County northward.

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41F and cloudy. Have I missed anything entertaining?

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Springfield, Oregon regular season 22-23 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 31F (Dec 22, 2022)
  • Coldest low: 16F (Jan 30, 2023)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 58 (Most recent: Mar 17, 2023)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 5 (Most recent: Jan 30, 2023)
  • Total snowfall: Enough to give the winter an A
  • Last accumulating snowfall: Mar 5, 2023
  • Last sub-freezing high: Dec 22, 2022 (31F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall: Mar 5, 2023
  • Last sub-freezing high: Dec 22, 2022 (31F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 1

 

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