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Just now, AlTahoe said:

yep a Honda and a craftsman. still took me 2 hours. there was a layer of water on the bottom of all that

Last Friday (12/23) we had 2 inches of sleet which was followed by freezing rain.    It took me 2 hours last Saturday morning to get that off the driveway with the snowblower so my son could leave for work.   And I could only walk where I had cleared because it was insanely slippery and basically impossible to walk on without falling.   Trying to drive a car over that would have been impossible... it would have slid right off the driveway and through the hedges and over our rock wall on the lower part of the driveway.  

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8 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Last Friday (12/23) we had 2 inches of sleet which was followed by freezing rain.    It took me 2 hours last Saturday morning to get that off the driveway with the snowblower so my son could leave for work.   And I could only walk where I had cleared because it was insanely slippery and basically impossible to walk on without falling.   Trying to drive a car over that would have been impossible... it would have slid right off the driveway and through the hedges and over our rock wall on the lower part of the driveway.  

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That's why we all need to become good ice skaters.

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Just now, Mr Marine Layer said:

That's why we all need to become good ice skaters.

If my son didn't have to go to work on Christmas Eve then I would have just let it melt.   It would have taken a chisel to do it manually without the snowblower... a shovel would not break the surface.    Now we don't even have snowbanks left.   

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13 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Last Friday (12/23) we had 2 inches of sleet which was followed by freezing rain.    It took me 2 hours last Saturday morning to get that off the driveway with the snowblower so my son could leave for work.   And I could only walk where I had cleared because it was insanely slippery and basically impossible to walk on without falling.   Trying to drive a car over that would have been impossible... it would have slid right off the driveway and through the hedges and over our rock wall on the lower part of the driveway.  

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How did your son make the drive to work?

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3 minutes ago, Mr Marine Layer said:

How did your son make the drive to work?

Our main road was actually clear by that morning... they had treated it.   All he had to do was get out of the driveway and the rest of the drive was fine.

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Phil has been pretty absent for a while. Rob always drifts in and out. He has his FB groups and mentioned last week during big events he likes to focus on curating those. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 13.9"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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2 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Phil has been pretty absent for a while. Rob always drifts in and out. He has his FB groups and mentioned last week during big events he likes to focus on curating those. 

I get a sense that Phil finally realized he didn't want to waste his life trolling a PNW forum!   But I do miss his content... he posted lots of great stuff.

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37 and sunny. Not a bad New Years Day. Last year we had about 20” of snow on the ground and a 33/19 day. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 13.9"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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Looks like EUG and SLE ended 2022 with small positive temp departures, but both -1.2F off of 2021. PDX had a similar

small positive departure and was -1.4F cooler than 2021. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 13.9"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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3 hours ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

I feel like the hotel I stayed at when I was in Prescott was right on the other side of that highway. 

I’m staying at a friends house near Watson Lake which is really fun to kayak and hike (old pic from summer).   Currently cold rain but snow beginning to mix in.  Should be all snow soon 

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I'll be interested to see if winter really does come roaring back.

Seems like we get into patterns and they last for a couple of months.  The pattern now is an active Pacific with 50 degrees and rain.

Would surprise the heck out of me if we went back to the freezer before mid-February and by then winter is pretty much over.  Lumpy rain and snow pack building in the mountains.

 

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18 minutes ago, Phil said:

East-Asia/Siberia High descent on the LR EPS. Signal growing stronger too.

Winter’s gonna come roaring back 2nd half of Jan, following our multiweek thaw.

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Were your ears burning?  😀

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Looks like December officially finished -1.7 degrees here with 6.29” of rain. The last week of the month really killed the cold avg. but overall it was a very solid month. 

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22-23 cold season stats

Coldest max-25

Coldest min-19

Sub 40 highs-9

Sub 32 highs-2

Sub 32 lows-19

Total snowfall-6.0” 

Monthly rainfall-2.86”

Wet season rainfall-16.35”

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Was a little snowier than I thought it would be up in greenwater this morning. Went up there to do some target shooting…but the 70 road was still kinda iffy a few miles up the road so I decided to turn back. 

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22-23 cold season stats

Coldest max-25

Coldest min-19

Sub 40 highs-9

Sub 32 highs-2

Sub 32 lows-19

Total snowfall-6.0” 

Monthly rainfall-2.86”

Wet season rainfall-16.35”

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SEA came in with a 38.8 monthly average for December.  18th coldest since 1945.

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Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 7.5"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 10

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.4"

Coldest Low = 17

Lows 32 or below = 43

Highs 32 or below = 2

Lows 20 or below = 2

Highs 40 or below = 17

 

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11 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Seen this a few times today on the North Bend facebook page... fitting.

 

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It might be back to trying to kill us again fairly soon.

It finally managed to clear out here today.  I was already getting irritated with the gloom.

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Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 7.5"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 10

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.4"

Coldest Low = 17

Lows 32 or below = 43

Highs 32 or below = 2

Lows 20 or below = 2

Highs 40 or below = 17

 

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7 minutes ago, TacomaWx said:

Looks like December officially finished -1.7 degrees here with 6.29” of rain. The last week of the month really killed the cold avg. but overall it was a very solid month. 

Still managed a pretty nippy 36.9 here.  Yesterday sure ticked me off though.  About the warmest possible outcome with what we had to work with.

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Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 7.5"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 10

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.4"

Coldest Low = 17

Lows 32 or below = 43

Highs 32 or below = 2

Lows 20 or below = 2

Highs 40 or below = 17

 

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2 minutes ago, Mr Marine Layer said:

Will the SSW have taken place by then?

People are so hung up on the SSW.  I guess I kind of understand due to some events in recent years, but I'm afraid people are looking at it as being a magic bullet that we can't do well without.

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Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 7.5"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 10

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.4"

Coldest Low = 17

Lows 32 or below = 43

Highs 32 or below = 2

Lows 20 or below = 2

Highs 40 or below = 17

 

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28 minutes ago, Hour364Please said:

I'll be interested to see if winter really does come roaring back.

Seems like we get into patterns and they last for a couple of months.  The pattern now is an active Pacific with 50 degrees and rain.

Would surprise the heck out of me if we went back to the freezer before mid-February and by then winter is pretty much over.  Lumpy rain and snow pack building in the mountains.

 

Won't be back until the subtropical jet stream and zonal flow leaves the West Coast.

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43 minutes ago, Phil said:

East-Asia/Siberia High descent on the LR EPS. Signal growing stronger too.

Winter’s gonna come roaring back 2nd half of Jan, following our multiweek thaw.

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Scoring in the last half of January would be a huge prize for us.  Hasn't happened yet this century, in spite of that time frame yielding some of our most extreme cold events in the past.  It almost always snows when it gets cold in that period as well.

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Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 7.5"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 10

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.4"

Coldest Low = 17

Lows 32 or below = 43

Highs 32 or below = 2

Lows 20 or below = 2

Highs 40 or below = 17

 

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3 minutes ago, Mr Marine Layer said:

Won't be back until the subtropical jet stream and zonal flow leaves the West Coast.

Which is being shown by all models later in week 2.

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Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 7.5"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 10

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.4"

Coldest Low = 17

Lows 32 or below = 43

Highs 32 or below = 2

Lows 20 or below = 2

Highs 40 or below = 17

 

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32 minutes ago, Hour364Please said:

I'll be interested to see if winter really does come roaring back.

Seems like we get into patterns and they last for a couple of months.  The pattern now is an active Pacific with 50 degrees and rain.

Would surprise the heck out of me if we went back to the freezer before mid-February and by then winter is pretty much over.  Lumpy rain and snow pack building in the mountains.

 

Betting you're wrong.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 7.5"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 10

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.4"

Coldest Low = 17

Lows 32 or below = 43

Highs 32 or below = 2

Lows 20 or below = 2

Highs 40 or below = 17

 

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CFS looks solid for the end of the month into February. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 13.9"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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1 hour ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Phil has been pretty absent for a while. Rob always drifts in and out. He has his FB groups and mentioned last week during big events he likes to focus on curating those. 

Yeah....he will show up when the goodies are getting closer again.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 7.5"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 10

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.4"

Coldest Low = 17

Lows 32 or below = 43

Highs 32 or below = 2

Lows 20 or below = 2

Highs 40 or below = 17

 

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4 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

CFS looks solid for the end of the month into February. 

We're getting a lot of models jumping on board now.  This is still in the running for being a great winter on the whole.

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Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 7.5"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 10

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.4"

Coldest Low = 17

Lows 32 or below = 43

Highs 32 or below = 2

Lows 20 or below = 2

Highs 40 or below = 17

 

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Another million dollar question is where has Jesse been?

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Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 7.5"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 10

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.4"

Coldest Low = 17

Lows 32 or below = 43

Highs 32 or below = 2

Lows 20 or below = 2

Highs 40 or below = 17

 

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12 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

Another million dollar question is where has Jesse been?

Iceland.   

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7 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Mean temp of 34.5°F last month at YVR. Last year’s mean was 33.6°F.

SEA ended up at 38.8 vs 38.0 last December... and a -3.2 departure which was significantly watered down by the last 8 days of the month that averaged +5.3 

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Still a bit of a mountain wave signature on models Wednesday into Thursday-- strong winds slopping into more populated parts of Multnomah and Clark counties.

"Let's mosey!"

 

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(1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.

(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches

(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches

(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches

(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches

 

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9 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

SEA ended up at 38.8 vs 38.0 last December... and a -3.2 departure which was significantly watered down by the last 8 days of the month that averaged +5.3 

Sort of a surprise. With as persistently cold as it was before the final week, I was expecting this month to be a colder than last. Really shows how torchy that final week was.

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1 hour ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Looks like EUG and SLE ended 2022 with small positive temp departures, but both -1.2F off of 2021. PDX had a similar

small positive departure and was -1.4F cooler than 2021. 

Medford ended up 0.1 temp departure.

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1 hour ago, snow_wizard said:

Scoring in the last half of January would be a huge prize for us.  Hasn't happened yet this century, in spite of that time frame yielding some of our most extreme cold events in the past.  It almost always snows when it gets cold in that period as well.

January 2012?

A forum for the end of the world.

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40 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Mean temp of 34.5°F last month at YVR. Last year’s mean was 33.6°F.

Very impressive pair to say the least.

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Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 7.5"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 10

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.4"

Coldest Low = 17

Lows 32 or below = 43

Highs 32 or below = 2

Lows 20 or below = 2

Highs 40 or below = 17

 

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4 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

January 2012?

I guess, but that was barely second half, and certainly not a classic like 1996 was.

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Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 7.5"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 10

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.4"

Coldest Low = 17

Lows 32 or below = 43

Highs 32 or below = 2

Lows 20 or below = 2

Highs 40 or below = 17

 

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The annual average for SEA for 2022 was 52.7.  Normal is 52.1 so that cold Nov / Dec combo really saved the day.

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Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 7.5"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 10

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.4"

Coldest Low = 17

Lows 32 or below = 43

Highs 32 or below = 2

Lows 20 or below = 2

Highs 40 or below = 17

 

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2 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

The annual average for SEA for 2022 was 52.7.  Normal is 52.1 so that cold Nov / Dec combo really saved the day.

Saved the day?   Did it undo the ridiculous heat and drought during the warm season?    Don't think so.   Annual averages don't mean much.

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Pattern next 10 days sure is nasty. Classic Nino pattern. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 13.9"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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