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Some pretty stout wind gusts currently! Much higher and Iā€™m sure our power will start having issues.Ā 
And yeahā€¦Yikes. Going to keep it weather related after this post but what the hell went wrong in this guys head to perform that horrific act.Ā 

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3 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Uhā€¦ I feel like this isnā€™t much different than any January since 2017.Ā 

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Uhhhā€¦ not sure about this either.Ā 

Trying to think of when they would've gotten more than a trace or at least not much since then. They've had ice storms.

Feb 2018?

Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 25F (JanĀ 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (JanĀ 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24Ā (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4Ā (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25ā€
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024Ā (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

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6 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

You don't have to experience this absolute disaster of a January like we are over here.Ā  Sure...I'm used to the month sucking, but this pattern is on a different level of suck.Ā  The next week is going to be torture for anyone wanting cold weather.

Jim you are welcome to go stay at our place in twisp. But you have to shovel snow off the roof as payment.

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Just now, TigerWoodsLibido said:

Trying to think of when they would've gotten more than a trace or at least now much since then. They've had ice storms.

All of western OR had more than a trace of snow in December 2021. Molalla I think did well, being close to the foothills with the onshore flow.

And all of Clackamas County had measurable snow multiple times in 2017-18 and 2018-19.

I would imagine Molalla also saw at least some measurable snow in March 2020 and April 2022.

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Looks like that squall line moving through the Seattle area is hitting me right now. Just started getting very windy and dumping rain out of nowhere.

2023 - 2024 Cold Season Stats

Total Snowfall - 0.75ā€

Max Snow Depth - 0.5ā€

Coldest High Temp - 21 (Jan 13)

Coldest Low Temp - 9 (Jan 13)

Number of Freezes - 51

Sub-40 highs - 12

Highs 32 or lower - 3

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Just now, TigerWoodsLibido said:

Trying to think of when they would've gotten more than a trace or at least not much since then. They've had ice storms.

Looks like they had around 3" in February 2018 from Mark Nelsen's blog posts. I'd think they got snow on 2/4/2019 as well. December 2021 I think they had a decent amount as well

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I honestly never expect anything from January anymoreā€¦so the fact that itā€™s turning out to be a dud (so far) doesnā€™t bother me much. I feel like this would be a lot more painful if we hadnā€™t scored a couple times already this winter. In my lifetime with a couple of exceptions this month has been terrible and expectations are always low.Ā 

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5 minutes ago, MossMan said:

Some pretty stout wind gusts currently! Much higher and Iā€™m sure our power will start having issues.Ā 
And yeahā€¦Yikes. Going to keep it weather related after this post but what the hell went wrong in this guys head to perform that horrific act.Ā 

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a loser incel who couldn't get laid.Ā  just a hunch.Ā 

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4 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

Weā€™ve lost Jim.

The tables are starting to turn!

I am legitimately PO'd right now.Ā  In case nobody can tell.

This pattern brings back nightmares of our very worst El Nino winters.Ā  Simply disgusting.Ā  I will say this makes a huge flip seem kind of likely though.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

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Winter 2023-24 stats

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Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

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Just now, BLI snowman said:

All of western OR had more than a trace of snow in December 2021. Molalla I think did well, being close to the foothills with the onshore flow.

And all of Clackamas County had measurable snow multiple times in 2017-18 and 2018-19.

I would imagine Molalla also saw at least some measurable snow in March 2020 and April 2022.

Ok, so there are probably areas of the Willamette Valley that have done worse than Jim's area since then.

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Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 25F (JanĀ 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (JanĀ 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24Ā (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4Ā (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25ā€
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024Ā (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

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8 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Yikes. Thatā€™s wild. Where do you stand on the death penalty? I support it. But it seems to be out of style these days.Ā 

Ya know, its funny.....I have always been a strong supporter of the death penalty, and at first I wanted my nephew's killer to get the needle....well I really wanted him to get the chair but they don't do that any more.

Growing up in Georgia, for several years I lived about 20 minutes from the prison where the had 'ole Sparky (Jackson Georgia), and being sick little redneck kids we would make jokes about the lights dimming when they would do executions.

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But then I got to thinking, that's the easy way out for him.Ā  I want him to rot in prison the rest of his life, be another prisoner's b*tch (he was already very unpopular in county lockup and got roughed up several times).Ā  To be perfectly honest, I surprised myself with that change in mindset.

That said, I have no objection to the death penalty, and if that was the sentence given to him, I would not have objected one bit.

I would have probably tried to be there to witness it...look that motherf*cker in the eyes before he left this world.Ā  I was not allowed to go to any of the court sessions, my wife knew I would be on the news, flying across the courtroom trying to get my hands on that POS before the bailiffs tazed me.

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1 minute ago, TacomaWx said:

I honestly never expect anything from January anymoreā€¦so the fact that itā€™s turning out to be a dud (so far) doesnā€™t bother me much. I feel like this would be a lot more painful if we hadnā€™t scored a couple times already this winter. In my lifetime with a couple of exceptions this month has been terrible and expectations are always low.Ā 

As I said this pattern this pattern is just flat out awful though.Ā  Big difference between a dud and a total train wreck.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

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Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

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1 minute ago, BLI snowman said:

All of western OR had more than a trace of snow in December 2021. Molalla I think did well, being close to the foothills with the onshore flow.

And all of Clackamas County had measurable snow multiple times in 2017-18 and 2018-19.

I would imagine Molalla also saw at least some measurable snow in March 2020 and April 2022.

Looks like that event on the 27th-28th might've brought a decent amount to that area. Snow-holed us though, that was annoying. Least amount on that entire map north of Salem. Maybe it was just bad luck or us being in heart of the Coast Range rainshadow
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6 minutes ago, RentonHillTC said:

Jim you are welcome to go stay at our place in twisp. But you have to shovel snow off the roof as payment.

Thanks, but going to where there is snow just makes it worse in some ways.Ā  Just too many years of going through the ups and downs (too many down) of this climate.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

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Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

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35 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Yikes. Thatā€™s wild. Where do you stand on the death penalty? I support it. But it seems to be out of style these days.Ā 

Westley Allan Dodd was hanged in Walla Walla 30 years ago today. (It also snowed that day). Probably best to not look him up if you want to get much sleep tonight.....

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2 minutes ago, RentonHillTC said:

@snow_wizardĀ Jim there is a friend waiting for you up there right now!!B84BF928-6C24-44FE-9431-E15EDF61E507.thumb.png.6045c13bccf3a7d80d9e5eb0dd8c9eec.png

Pretty snowy there!

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Winter 2023-24 stats

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Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

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14 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

A very blatant example of Locardā€™s Exchange Principle.

Is that basically being a moron?

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Winter 2023-24 stats

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Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

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Just now, BLI snowman said:

Westley Allan Dodd was hanged in Walla Walla 30 years ago today. (It also snowed that day). Probably best to not look him up if you want to get much sleep tonight.....

One of the most frightening figures in American criminal history-- I shudder to think what would have happened if he hadn't been caught when he did.

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Just now, BLI snowman said:

Westley Allan Dodd was hanged in Walla Walla 30 years ago today. (It also snowed that day). Probably best to not look him up if you want to get much sleep tonight.....

I remember him. Or at least reading about him. I was a news junkie as a little

kid, meaning I exposed myself

to very heavy subject matter at an early age.Ā 

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SnowfallĀ  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  2021-22: 91.46"Ā 

2020-21: 12.0"Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā 2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā 2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā 2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā 2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā 2012-13: 78.45Ā Ā 

2011-12: 98.5"Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā 2011-12: 92.67"

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2 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

Westley Allan Dodd was hanged in Walla Walla 30 years ago today. (It also snowed that day). Probably best to not look him up if you want to get much sleep tonight.....

My sonā€™s old baseball coach basically caught him. Pretty intense story.

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Quite frankly it just stumps me how the pattern could be so full blown Nino when we have sky high SOI and a very robust Nina going right now.Ā  If I were living in the NE I would be pretty pissed that such a Ninoesque pattern is torching that area as well.

It must have something to do with fallout from that hyper blocking pattern we had recently.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

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Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

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2 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

Yeah, I remember reading that his car miraculously stalled and the dad of the kid he was trying to abduct caught up with him. Crazy sh*t.

Wow!

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Winter 2023-24 stats

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Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

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1 minute ago, snow_wizard said:

Quite frankly it just stumps me how the pattern could be so full blown Nino when we have sky high SOI and a very robust Nina going right now.Ā  If I were living in the NE I would be pretty pissed that such a Ninoesque pattern is torching that area as well.

It must have something to do with fallout from that hyper blocking pattern we had recently.

Once we kept the cold well into December this was basically a done deal.Ā 

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SnowfallĀ  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  2021-22: 91.46"Ā 

2020-21: 12.0"Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā 2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā 2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā 2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā 2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā 2012-13: 78.45Ā Ā 

2011-12: 98.5"Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā 2011-12: 92.67"

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4 hours ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

The Torch Watch, because hey, thereā€™s no decent snow chances to track, so might as well track something. (I paid for that WeatherBell access, D****T! Ā Iā€™m using it, snow or no snow.)

Sunday, Monday, and next Thursday look good and torchy. Well, torchy at least. Whether or not thatā€™s good is a matter of personal preference. Who knows, Roseburg may score a 60-burger on Thursday!

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1 minute ago, MossMan said:

Here is a heat map for ya!Ā 

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Talk about a bad memory.Ā  That was three days of hell.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

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Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

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5 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

Yeah, I remember reading that his car miraculously stalled and the dad of the kid he was trying to abduct caught up with him. Crazy sh*t.

Yeah, it was basically in front of the movie theater in Camas. He worked there in high school and he and the stepdad scrapped with him for a bit before LE got there.

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6 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

Quite frankly it just stumps me how the pattern could be so full blown Nino when we have sky high SOI and a very robust Nina going right now.Ā  If I were living in the NE I would be pretty pissed that such a Ninoesque pattern is torching that area as well.

It must have something to do with fallout from that hyper blocking pattern we had recently.

Weird year!

Seriously though, December did us no favors. It was pretty clear by mid month that we had some westerly comeuppance heading our way.Ā 

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4 minutes ago, Cold Snap said:

Currently 55.4 at 9:38pm on the 5th of January. šŸ¤®

We need a triple puke emoji.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

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Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

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1 minute ago, Deweydog said:

Weird year!

Yup.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

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Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

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