PNW January 2023 Observations and Discussion

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

4 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

That's pretty real in terms of cold.  I think the coldest places in the lower 48 have a monthly norm of about 5 in January, so this is up there with the big boys for December.

If it's low to mid 30s over there with this pattern I would think a normal max in the mid 20s doesn't seem out of whack at all for that area.  Very impressive.

December 2021 was 17.0 for average and February 2019 was 15.4. December 2016 14.6 average 

[snow_wizard]

20 minutes ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

Yep this area and the Methow valley are the coldest spots.  My area mixes out faster but it's better for marginal snow level days like today just because of the elevation.  Just checked another station 1 mile from cabin and the everage temp last month came in at 14.7 degrees!

Do they have a long period of record for that station that is accessible?  If not Omak came in at 19.6 so a 5 degree correction applied to the Omak records might give a fair idea of monthly averages for your cabin going back a ways.

[RentonHill]

12 minutes ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

The snow on the tracks is from the last 24hrs.

We need a dozer like that sooooooo bad. Or any dozer, really. 

[snow_wizard]

As an aside...it is incredibly dumb they don't do snowfall records for places like Omak any longer.  Obviously some idiotic bureaucratic decision made by somebody with no appreciation for weather.

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

7 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

Do they have a long period of record for that station that is accessible?  If not Omak came in at 19.6 so a 5 degree correction applied to the Omak records might give a fair idea of monthly averages for your cabin going back a ways.

The personal station I check goes back to 2012. I didn't check lost lake yet, that one is a government station. I have noticed there is normally a 7-10 degree difference in temperature compared to omak. And more like 10-20 degrees colder in summer than omak. We have seen 90 in omak driving through and it be 70 -75 at cabin 1 hr later when we arrive. 

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

11 minutes ago, RentonHillTC said:

We need a dozer like that sooooooo bad. Or any dozer, really. 

Dozer is the only way to roll when you have almost 1 mile to plow. Mine is a d6 so much larger than needed but it will clear the road in 1 pass and you can't stop it. My plow truck works good but it's really hard on it over there.

[Deweydog]

What’s everybody doing for dinner?

[RentonHill]

 

1 minute ago, Deweydog said:

What’s everybody doing for dinner?

Pulled bbq chicken sandwiches

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

5 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

What’s everybody doing for dinner?

Homemade lasagna. 

[TT-SEA]

3 minutes ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

Homemade lasagna. 

I have been told its beef stroganoff here.  

[MossMan]

8 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

What’s everybody doing for dinner?

Nothing. I informed the family that we are all on a hunger strike until it snows again. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Cheese and crackers 

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

2 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

I have been told its beef stroganoff here.  

Yummy. One of my favorite.

[Rubus Leucodermis]

38 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

High of 50 and 46 at SLE looks more like a cool down. 

I was noticing that too. The Valley seems to largely get skunked. It is modelled to be significantly warmer IMBY. Quite the turnabout from what has been the norm recently.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Just now, Rubus Leucodermis said:

I was noticing that too. The Valley seems to largely get skunked. It is modelled to be significantly warmer IMBY. Quite the turnabout from what has been the norm recently.

Must be showing more steady rain down this way. 

[Rubus Leucodermis]

Just now, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Must be showing more steady rain down this way. 

That would be my guess, too. Sunbreaks up this way, steady rain in the Valley.

[Deweydog]

1 minute ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

I was noticing that too. The Valley seems to largely get skunked. It is modelled to be significantly warmer IMBY. Quite the turnabout from what has been the norm recently.

We can’t buy regional event to save our lives.

[Deweydog]

8 minutes ago, MossMan said:

Nothing. I informed the family that we are all on a hunger strike until it snows again. 

Siri… how long can I live without eating food?

[Rubus Leucodermis]

10 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

I have been told its beef stroganoff here.  

Gee, I dunno.

At least crackers and lasagna are both a square meal. Really can't say that about beef stroganoff.

[MossMan]

We need something to start showing up in the models. This 44 degree constant light rain day after day is wearing me down. I miss my yard color and sunny warm days…If we are not going to get cold and snow let’s just end it now and get spring going. 
Downvote away! Or fling wieners…

[Rubus Leucodermis]

43.9˚F and moderate rain.

Not light rain, moderate rain. So there, Mossman! Variety!

[RentonHill]

18z delays a couple days vs 12z but that lines up with EPS timing better. it certainly looks like it wants to drop the hammer at the end. Ignoring the cutoffs and stupid details that will obviously get figured out in time, this run is still a win imo. 
 

EDIT: it has been duly pointed out that my words are wrong. The correct phrase is most likely “this pattern evolution looks promising and is in line with the EPS timing that would potentially deliver some modestly cold air the first week of February”

[SilverFallsAndrew]

3 minutes ago, RentonHillTC said:

18z delays a couple days vs 12z but that lines up with EPS timing better. it certainly looks like it wants to drop the hammer at the end. Ignoring the cutoffs and stupid details that will obviously get figured out in time, this run is still a win imo. 

I’ve seen much worse. 

[Ellsworb]

46 and light rain on the east shore of Lake Tapps.  This sucks.  Winter cancel.

[TT-SEA]

8 minutes ago, RentonHillTC said:

18z delays a couple days vs 12z but that lines up with EPS timing better. it certainly looks like it wants to drop the hammer at the end. Ignoring the cutoffs and stupid details that will obviously get figured out in time, this run is still a win imo. 

 

That arctic air soooooo close and staged right at the border at the end of the run... hammer dropping!    

[The Blob]

41 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

What’s everybody doing for dinner?

I'm just now eating lunch.

[Blizzard777]

Lol, I’m not missing the weather back home!  
although we had some gray days, the past few days have been fantastic  here in Az.  A little skiing yesterday at Snowbowl in Flagstaff.  Weather was perfect. It did drop into the 20s overnight….even in Prescott where I’m staying.   Watson lake and D.A. Ranch (winery) are the other two photos 

I really don’t want to come home again.  Weather seems to always be interesting here. 

[RentonHill]

47 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

That arctic air soooooo close and staged right at the border at the end of the run... hammer dropping!    

Sorry officer I’ll fix it right away

[Meatyorologist]

1 hour ago, TT-SEA said:

That arctic air soooooo close and staged right at the border at the end of the run... hammer dropping!    

Tim

[TT-SEA]

55 minutes ago, RentonHillTC said:

Sorry officer I’ll fix it right away

It was really just a joke... I agree with you that the 500mb pattern at the end of the 18Z run does look very crashy.

[TT-SEA]

1 minute ago, Meatyorologist said:

Tim

I typed my response at the same time you posted this.   

[Meatyorologist]

Nice heirmass into the north central part of the country on the 18z.

iirc someone said back just after new year's that eye candy would start appearing again around the 10th of this month. i agree with that.

[BLI snowman]

2 hours ago, Deweydog said:

What’s everybody doing for dinner?

Unfortunately looking like Applebee's 

[TT-SEA]

1 minute ago, BLI snowman said:

Unfortunately looking like Applebee's 

That actually sounds really good!   And bonus if Sunday Night Football is on all the TVs.  

[BLI snowman]

Just now, TT-SEA said:

That actually sounds really good!   And bonus if Sunday Night Football is on all the TVs.  

Feel free to stop by! Maybe could catch the end of the 4th quarter if you leave right now.

[Rubus Leucodermis]

Clouds and rain most of the day with clearing right at sundown.

Golden hour on the Fraser.

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

2 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

Unfortunately looking like Applebee's 

Those taco appetizers are my favorite of any restaurant besides the blooming onion at outback steakhouse. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

We all rooting for the packers right?!

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

1 minute ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

Those taco appetizers are my favorite of any restaurant besides the blooming onion at outback steakhouse. 

Wonton tacos. Couldn't remember the name.

[Tyler Mode]

Homemade fondue and pulled pork yummmm

Been on daffodil watch since the 1st...nothing yet.

.77" so far today.