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1 minute ago, Meatyorologist said:

Speaking literally, today's weather pattern in July would have the Puget Sound region looking down the barrel of a huge thunderstorm complex.

I really hope this warm season has a lot of thunderstorms like 2019. There haven't been great ones recently here. Last really good ones were probably in September 2019 and then an amazing one on 7/1/2019 here

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1 minute ago, Doinko said:

I really hope this warm season has a lot of thunderstorms like 2019. There haven't been great ones recently here. Last really good ones were probably in September 2019 and then an amazing one on 7/1/2019 here

September 2019 and 2013 were amazing for lightning.

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"

-2023-24*: 0.25"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

-Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31

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It can get as hot as it fuckinn likes if there's a big, phatt, whet line of thunderstorms on the backside. (Obviously not June 2021 levels, but within reasonable bounds of climo.)

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"

-2023-24*: 0.25"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

-Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31

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@AlTahoe Have you seen any thundersnow during this winter's craziness? Today and Monday look like good candidates.

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"

-2023-24*: 0.25"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

-Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31

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43 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

East wind here again today.  No doubt there is a connection.

But how? I know it's cold air damming but the air coming from the east isn't cold. I could understand it when there is precip colling the column but today it has been dry and we still got stuck around 48 degrees.  Honestly January hasn't been a torch here at all and it has been right about average. The lows have been a couple degrees above average.

We come from the land of the ice and snow.

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Does anyone have experience with chickens? My rooster is acting like he is drunk, stumbling around and even falling. Hens are fine, water and food look clean. I don't see a ear infection and no sign of injury.  Only thing I can think of is maybe vitamin deficiency so I crushed up a couple vitamin c pills and a vitamin E and D and put that in there water. He is eating and drinking, very strange.

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We come from the land of the ice and snow.

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Another great GEFS run. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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6 minutes ago, High Desert Mat? said:

Wait. Two weeks ago you said it was happening in 10 days. Now it’s the end of the month. Hmmm, with the 4 week or so lag it would be useless by then. 

Yeah, we didn't have a SSW earlier this winter and December absolutely torched for everyone!  Warmest December ever!

Seriously, are you sure he said 2 weeks ago that it was happening in 10 days?  

Lots of the experts that know more than we do have been talking about it, so he's not making it up.  Maybe they're all wrong.

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1 hour ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

Does anyone have experience with chickens? My rooster is acting like he is drunk, stumbling around and even falling. Hens are fine, water and food look clean. I don't see an ear infection and no sign of injury.  Only thing I can think of is maybe vitamin deficiency so I crushed up a couple vitamin c pills and a vitamin E and D and put that in there water. He is eating and drinking, very strange.

Hope it’s not the Bird Flu?

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1 hour ago, Brian_in_Leavenworth said:

Yeah, we didn't have a SSW earlier this winter and December absolutely torched for everyone!  Warmest December ever!

Seriously, are you sure he said 2 weeks ago that it was happening in 10 days?  

Lots of the experts that know more than we do have been talking about it, so he's not making it up.  Maybe they're all wrong.

Who said anything about December? Jim said two weeks ago that it an SSW was imminent in 10 days. Maybe I’m making it up. It just seems as though it’s been talked about since late November and it just keeps getting pushed off. So be it I guess 🙄

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6 hours ago, TT-SEA said:

Someone had posted a link detailing the flooding in CA in 1862 and I found it interesting that they went right back to very bad drought immediately.    By 1863 and 1864 they said that they had mass die off of cattle in CA because it was so dry again.

I'm not the first one to say this, but that 1862 rainfall was something else. Downtown SF had 24.36" of rain! That's 9.2" greater (or 61% more) than any other month in the last 160 years! I mean, November 2006 was wet up here, but imagine if SEA had picked up another 10"!

Home Wx Station Stats (Since January 2008):

Max Temp: 96.3F (2009)   Min Temp: 2.0F (2008)   Max Wind Gust: 45 mph (2018, 2021)   Wettest Day: 2.34 (11/4/22)   Avg Yearly Precip: 37"   10yr Avg Snow: 8.0"

Snowfall Totals

'08-09: 30" | '09-10: 0.5" | '10-11: 21" | '11-12: 9.5" | '12-13: 0.2" | '13-14: 6.2" | '14-15: 0.0" | '15-16: 0.25"| '16-17: 8.0" | '17-18: 0.9"| '18-19: 11.5" | '19-20: 11" | '20-21: 10.5" | '21-22: 21.75" | '22-23: 10.0" 

2023-24: 7.0" (1/17: 3", 1/18: 1.5", 2/26: 0.5", 3/4: 2.0", Flakes: 1/11, 1/16)

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6 hours ago, TT-SEA said:

Someone had posted a link detailing the flooding in CA in 1862 and I found it interesting that they went right back to very bad drought immediately.    By 1863 and 1864 they said that they had mass die off of cattle in CA because it was so dry again.

Was it this link that Snow Wizard posted?

Puget Sound herald. [volume] (Steilacoom, W.T. [Wash.]) 1858-1864, January 09, 1862, Image 2 « Chronicling America « Library of Congress (loc.gov)

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17 minutes ago, TacomaWx said:

It’s a sucky pattern overall consistently damp and warm…but not really very wet. Atleast we’ve had some active interesting stuff already. Hopefully we can turn into more La Niña like cooler/wetter pattern to finish the winter. 

I feel really fortunate that we’ve escaped the worst of the torching down here. PDX is still sitting at a top end of just 54 this month, which is the same as here. Obviously highs and lows have still been well above average even down this way though.

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5 hours ago, snow_wizard said:

Looks like the SSW is pretty likely to happen before the month is over, and it could be a big one.

 

5 hours ago, TT-SEA said:

Probably take until almost March for that to have an impact.  

Either way, the positive trends we're seeing now in the models for the extended have nothing to do with a potential SSW.

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GFS is gonna try and go ballz to the wallz in the long range. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Meh. It tried. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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11 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

I feel really fortunate that we’ve escaped the worst of the torching down here. PDX is still sitting at a top end of just 54 this month, which is the same as here. Obviously highs and lows have still been well above average even down this way though.

It was a pretty good run of below normal temps from late October to Christmas Eve. I guess it couldn’t go on forever in the 21st century climate 😂

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1 hour ago, TacomaWx said:

It’s a sucky pattern overall consistently damp and warm…but not really very wet. Atleast we’ve had some active interesting stuff already. Hopefully we can turn into more La Niña like cooler/wetter pattern to finish the winter. 

It has rained on almost every day since Christmas... but I have rather enjoyed it.    There have been plenty of breaks and some sun in between the rain and temps have been very pleasant for winter.   It feels like it was good for the ecosystem here... after a scorching hot summer and then 2 months of smoke and then almost right into generally cold and dry.  

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1 hour ago, lowlandsnow said:

No... that is for the Puget Sound area.    There was another link posted about the flooding rains in CA in 1862 and then went on to talk about how quickly it went back into severe drought right afterwards.

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I guess we don't have to feel too bad this month.  NYC is currently running a +11.4 departure for the month and is running warmer than a lot of places in the Western Lowlands.

The surprising thing is the NW on the whole isn't running all that warm. 

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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30 minutes ago, Doinko said:

 

Same deal here.  We hit 25 today in fact.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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1 minute ago, snow_wizard said:

I guess we don't have to feel too bad this month.  NYC is currently running a +11.4 departure for the month and is running warmer than a lot of places in the Western Lowlands.

The surprising thing is the NW on the whole isn't running all that warm. 

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I don't think they've seen really any snow at all either

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