CentralNebWeather Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 NWS Hastings morning disco talking about a very strong storm next weekend. Strange that they talk about something so far in the future. The pattern becomes active once again toward late next week as another deep trough and strong storm system approaches from the west. Models disagree on timing and placement /not surprising for day 7/ but pattern recognition and ensembles suggest there could be strong thunderstorms in the warm sector and yet another Spring snowfall on the backside of the system, somewhere in the region. Something we'll be keeping an eye on over the next several days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted April 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 Outstanding cold this morning across ND with current temps single digits below zero! Ouch! #Apriluary Last night's 00z Euro took a big step back with the warm up next week around the MW/GL's as blocking turned out to be stronger. Sign of the times? Warmth is going to be hard to come by if the blocking continues to be this strong for the rest of this month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 If it snows measurably in Omaha Sunday I'll personally deliver you $5.I guess I don't have to do this. Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted April 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 Trends are in favor for another MN snowstorm for late next week. Big shifts south in both the EPS/GEFS of the systems storm track. Check out the last 2 runs per the EPS...stronger Hudson Bay block bodes well for another snowstorm. Let's smash some records! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted April 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 It would be hard to imagine not to reach 70F at least once this month in Chicago. We didn't reach 60F last month, if we don't hit 70F this month, I think a Spring of '13 will be a very close match in recent years, esp given how cold April will end up being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted April 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 Departures thus far for the first 4 days of April...I heard Chicago will average nearly 20F BN during the first week of this month....LRC has been a great tool predicting this historic open to April. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 So the Sunday system is crapping out and now the big warmup is crapping out, too. Ugh. The euro ensemble mean had risen to 70 for a couple days, followed by permanent mid 50s to low 60s. Now, it peaks at low 60s for a couple days, then falls back into crappy 40s to low 50s, with more snow possible. The op run even has us falling back into the 30s. I may not be able to get my plants started this month if things don't change. Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westMJim Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 The temperatures here are for Grand Rapids, MIHere are some interesting facts as to just how cold this April has started. For the at least the first 6 days (and maybe more) the warmest it will be is just 43° and the departure is now at -11.5° going back to 1950 Here are some past cold April’s 1950, 1953, 1956, 1961, 1971, 1972,1975, 1982, 1996, 2000, 2013 Of all of those April’s only two did not have highs in the 70’s (1950 67° and 1961 68°) the rest had highs in the 70’s ranging from 78° in 2013 and 1956 to 72° in 1953. This April has yet to have a 50° day and none are expected until late next week, All of the above cold Aprils had highs in the 50’s and 60’s before than except 1975 where that did not happen until the 13th 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Paul Storm Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 Currently 15F and feels like -4 with a nasty wind. Forecasted high is 21 which would be the all-time coldest high in April. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 Currently cloudy here in nyc w spotty rain and some chilly air still around. Some snow may mix in but temps reaching the upper 50s for a bit b4 dropping off into the 30s tonight. No accumulations are expected tonight, but NW can expect some minor accumulations. Tomorrow, sunshine returns. Easter preparations are beginning ya'll. Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Paul Storm Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 Current wind chills. Hello January! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted April 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 Current wind chills. Hello January!I heard there are reports of some lakes with 30” of ice in N MN. That’s just crazy to even fathom ice is getting thicker in early April. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Paul Storm Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 I heard there are reports of some lakes with 30” of ice in N MN. That’s just crazy to even fathom ice is getting thicker in early April.I had about 2 feet of open water along the shoreline about 3 weeks ago. It’s now completely covered again. Last year the ice was gone on March 23. This year there’s still 23” in spots. I might be able to swim by late June. Ugh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted April 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 Who will be that lucky person on Friday the 13th to cash in on Snow? Summer warmth? What a powerhouse storm potential on the table. This pattern is jacked! Craziest moment in time to be alive and be able to witness some of the most extreme weather in history this month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 SPS could be in a good spot for that one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 Who will be that lucky person on Friday the 13th to cash in on Snow? Summer warmth? What a powerhouse storm potential on the table. This pattern is jacked! Craziest moment in time to be alive and be able to witness some of the most extreme weather in history this month.That is one wound up system. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Paul Storm Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 975mb in the Dakotas on the 12z GFS. Would be mostly rain here on the 13th but wowzers what a storm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 I hope the GFS scenario is correct. To get a couple days of warmth, we need the low to sweep northeastward to our nw. If it slows and occludes to the west, like last night's euro suggested, the warm sector never gets up here and we're stuck with a stiff east wind off the cold lakes. 2 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted April 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 Looking out into the extended, the 11th-18th of this month is likely to be the best period of squeezing out any chance of warmth, moreso out into the Plains states. It's sad to say, but the strength of the -NAO pattern will put a wrench into any sustained warmth once we get past the 18th. I think another major shot of cold is coming post 15th-18th period. I'm looking for a large system around the last week of the month, potentially a large scale Spring storm, that will likely kick start another BN regime to close out the month and open May. Overall, the colder pattern will rule until we can break out of this sometime in May??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted April 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 12z Euro already showing early signs in its run today that there is more blocking in place by mid next week. I think MSP is in for a good run. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 12z euro now has significant icing from SD through southern MN/northern IA into Wisconsin. So much for the 70-80 degrees it was showing a few runs ago. Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 12z euro now has significant icing from SD through southern MN/northern IA into Wisconsin. So much for the 70-80 degrees it was showing a few runs ago. 997 L in NW MO at hr 192 https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=ecmwf®ion=us&pkg=z500_mslp&runtime=2018040612&fh=192 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted April 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 12z euro now has significant icing from SD through southern MN/northern IA into Wisconsin. So much for the 70-80 degrees it was showing a few runs ago. Mid 30's and an strong easterly wind off the lake here in Chi...yuck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted April 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 A major Dakotas into MN/WI on tap...#winterrollson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 The euro does have one good day on Wednesday, with highs in the 60s in eastern Iowa, but then this happens. Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted April 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 Take a look at this Day 9 map off of the 12z Euro run today...central Canadian ridge is going to mean business over the next several weeks... Now look at this CFSv2 map for May....similarities???? Blocking is going to do wonders next month.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 GEM looks a lot like the euro https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=gem®ion=us&pkg=mslp_pcpn&runtime=2018040612&fh=180 Blocking just stalls and keeps it south https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=gem®ion=us&pkg=asnow24&runtime=2018040612&fh=198 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 There's more to talk about withthe current pattern then there was all Winter. Lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 Departures thus far for the first 4 days of April...I heard Chicago will average nearly 20F BN during the first week of this month....LRC has been a great tool predicting this historic open to April. Normal high temp is now 56F for Marshall. Another 2012 Morch-balancing weekend in store here, but at least it looks sunny and gee-no bugs! (thumbs up) Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 12z euro now has significant icing from SD through southern MN/northern IA into Wisconsin. So much for the 70-80 degrees it was showing a few runs ago. ecmwf_ptype_slp_conus_180.png Smile, you've just been Euro'd.. 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Paul Storm Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 21F and feels like 6. Working from home today and the furnace is basically running nonstop. April heating bill is on pace to suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 So, this week's storm made for an eye-catching snow cover map that illustrates nicely the traditional dividing line between SMI wx zone, and NMI wx zone. Way back in the 80's it was very much more common for systems to deliver this gradient splitting the Mitt. It continued into the 90's (see Nov '95 for one example) but has been mostly MIA for the past 2 decades. Just thought it was cool looking map. So many winters when there's little to no snow OTG downstate, you just have to drive north of that line and BAM! #winterfound Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 21F and feels like 6. Working from home today and the furnace is basically running nonstop. April heating bill is on pace to suck. Even down here in the Banana belt, it's dropped to 29F with Wind Speed NW 16 G 29 mph resulting in a WC of 17º 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 CPC with a new and novel way to depict "heavy mixed bag O' crap" 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westMJim Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 I did not have to work today as to nights baseball game was postponed and it is a good thing as Grand Rapids is Getting off and on moderate to heavy snow showers temperature at 30° 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 The strong cold advection and falling snow has kept far sw and sc Iowa in the low 20s this afternoon. That's quite extreme at this point in the season. 1 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 We have officially held the snowcover. Now let's set a record. 20.8*F. Should plummet as winds die down. Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlcater Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 Boom http://maps1.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/gfs/2018040700/162/sfcwind_mslp.conus.png 1 Quote 2021-22 Snowfall: (Hiawatha) TOTAL: 10.2" (12/28: 3.0") (12/29: 0.8") (1/1: 6.4") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 Boom http://maps1.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/gfs/2018040700/162/sfcwind_mslp.conus.pngI've missed that look. Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabel23 Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 Boom http://maps1.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/gfs/2018040700/162/sfcwind_mslp.conus.png I've missed that look.If this comes out as being shown, we will no doubt see our first significant severe weather outbreak somewhere close to us. This thermal look screams something significant! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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