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3 minutes ago, Doinko said:

Looks like 6.1" from this storm total. Definitely an amazing storm, that snow overnight was extremely heavy. So much wind and a lot of drifts outside. Received 3-4" from 1 to 3 am with those bands

Glad you scored. I made it from orenco to scappoose via skyline and back roads at 9pm. It was wild. Only took 45 mins. But I used to live up there so I am used to it.

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Looking at the models…there’s multiple systems that could bring snow very close to sea level even after the sunday system. Especially if the systems come in during the overnight hours. 

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2023 warm season stats

Max temp-89

+80s-3

+85s-2

+90s-0

monthly rainfall-0.69”

warm season rainfall-4.42”

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11 minutes ago, Timmy said:

What did you end up with?

Just measured, looks like 11” total. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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Just now, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Just measured, looks like 11” total. 

Wow... impressive!

You have 11 times as much snow as I do right now.  

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Up to 31.3” on the winter. Ties 2017-18. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Have a feeling there are going to be some very cold lows the next few nights. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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2 hours ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

The NWS should be dragged put back and shot,  this is the 2nd time this area has reached warning level snowfall and not be under a warning. The first time we had 9 inches and not even under a advisory! This is the only time in all the years this has happened and it's just been this year. I blame it on this younger generation of forecasting people in the office with no experience for Western Washington winters and they just use this model blend bullshit and really don't pay attention to what's actually happening outside or the general large scale pattern and what can and what had happened in the past with similar situations.  The NWS of Seattle is a joke and I hope they read this. Portland office is better and Spokane office is awesome!

Deep breaths! 

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Just now, Timmy said:

Good to see Seattle got in the action a little last night.  I snapped this screenshot. 

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There was 0 snow north of Tacoma this morning…but places Seattle north and east did score yesterday morning. 

2023 warm season stats

Max temp-89

+80s-3

+85s-2

+90s-0

monthly rainfall-0.69”

warm season rainfall-4.42”

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3 minutes ago, TacomaWx said:

There was 0 snow north of Tacoma this morning…but places Seattle north and east did score yesterday morning. 

I thought tim said Seattle got some overnight. The radar showed good echos Seattle/west

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2 hours ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

The NWS should be dragged put back and shot,  this is the 2nd time this area has reached warning level snowfall and not be under a warning. The first time we had 9 inches and not even under a advisory! This is the only time in all the years this has happened and it's just been this year. I blame it on this younger generation of forecasting people in the office with no experience for Western Washington winters and they just use this model blend bullshit and really don't pay attention to what's actually happening outside or the general large scale pattern and what can and what had happened in the past with similar situations.  The NWS of Seattle is a joke and I hope they read this. Portland office is better and Spokane office is awesome!

Portland office isn't much better lol. Their forecasts yesterday before the snow started was a WWA from the central/south Valley and absolutely nothing for PDX. Then they changed it to a advisory above 500 ft or something, then a winter storm warning that was still way too low after the snow had already been accumulating for a while in portions of the Metro. And then we had a blizzard after the warning expires

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Currently 25.9 degrees with a DP of 13. Was windy all night as the wind chimes were going! 

Looking forward to Saturday night! 

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Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! 

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3 minutes ago, Timmy said:

I thought tim said Seattle got some overnight. The radar showed good echos Seattle/west

Moisture got eaten alive once it got north of tacoma. Just about 1/4” here. Airmass was extremely dry…DP is 1F at sea tac and 8F in Tacoma. 

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2023 warm season stats

Max temp-89

+80s-3

+85s-2

+90s-0

monthly rainfall-0.69”

warm season rainfall-4.42”

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I didn't see any flakes last night due to the dry air, but I did get a good vantage point to view the virga shield overhead. That last minute jog north the low made, along with a stronger than expected high in eastern WA, caused a stronger E-W pressure gradient than expected, and as a result stronger east winds and drying in the low levels.

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50" 🥳

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"

-Most recent snowfall: 1”; February 26th, 2023

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

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13 minutes ago, Timmy said:

I thought tim said Seattle got some overnight. The radar showed good echos Seattle/west

Seattle got snow yesterday morning.    Those radar echoes were deceiving last night... north of the King/Pierce county line it was pretty much all virga.

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40 minutes ago, Doinko said:

Looks like 6.1" from this storm total. Definitely an amazing storm, that snow overnight was extremely heavy. So much wind and a lot of drifts outside. Received 3-4" from 1 to 3 am with those bands

Nice, you beat me! About 4" here total we with some melting yesterday. Depth stands just over 3" in the grass.  Hoping to maybe equal that Saturday overnight.

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Down to 22 now. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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1 hour ago, smerfylicious said:

I didn't even get a flake in Gold Bar, but that's okay. I got 16" in November, so I can't be too greedy I guess. I'm just happy for everyone else. Maybe I'll score this weekend or something.

Just flurries here but the models have been very consistent that my best chances come later.

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Should be some very respectable min/maxes the next few days then remain pretty chilly in the longer range. Going to be a close call if we manage to stay below freezing today. Think we end up hitting 33…but we will see. Likely won’t see 40 degrees until Sunday. Getting excited for the Saturday night system. Probably going to have to pull an all-nighter for that one. 

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2023 warm season stats

Max temp-89

+80s-3

+85s-2

+90s-0

monthly rainfall-0.69”

warm season rainfall-4.42”

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1 minute ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

4.7 inches! But what's impressive is the current tenp of 23.

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You have lots of trucks! 

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4 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

Nice, you beat me! About 4" here total we with some melting yesterday. Depth stands just over 3" in the grass.  Hoping to maybe equal that Saturday overnight.

Most of our snow fell around 1-2 am when it was in the mid 20 so no melting yet. I wasn't expecting much after the initial 2" of snow but then that extremely heavy band overnight was a great surprise. Never seen snow that heavy.

 

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I'm pretty sure La Nina is dead SST wise gonna a take 4 weeks for atmospheric pattern to change up so likely gonna be very Nina like thru at least late March somewhere 20th of March on up pattern may change. 

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6 minutes ago, ChrisAmunRA said:

I'm pretty sure La Nina is dead SST wise gonna a take 4 weeks for atmospheric pattern to change up so likely gonna be very Nina like thru at least late March somewhere 20th of March on up pattern may change. 

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Yeah... significant warming over the last week.

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9 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

You have lots of trucks! 

Some people are addicted to sports, landscaping, hiking,  bicycling, I'm addicted to vehicles. It's also advertising because I do a bunch of performance work on trucks. One of those is my womans.

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We come from the land of the ice and snow.

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38 minutes ago, markjb said:

As usual… just a dusting here in university place… U.P. Sucks for snow !!

Yeah, it seems like we don't do as well as other areas quite often.  I live one block east of the UP/Fircrest border just south of the golf course.

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13F and cold outside.

Garfield County/Pomeroy, WA:

2022-2023 snowfall totals: 13.9 inches

Highest snow total (per event): 2.20 inches (12/19/22 & 12/20/22)

Most recent accumulating (non Trace) .10 on 3/08/23

Days with trace or more snow: 11/1/22 (1 inch), 11/28/22 (.80), 12/01/22 (T), 12/02/22 (T), 12/4/22 (.20), 12/5/22 (1.5), 12/14/22 (1.6), 12/18/22 (T), 12/19/22 (2.10), 12/20/22 (.10), 12/23/22 (2.0), 01/03/2023 (T), 1/22/23 (T), 2/21/23 (.10), 2/22/23 (.80), 2/23/23 (.20), 2/24/2023 (.50), 2/28/23 (.90), 3/5/2023 (2.0), 3/8/2023 (.10)

First freeze: 11/3/22 (yes, after the first snowfall)

Coldest low: 0F (12/21/2022)

Last sub freezing high:  2/23/23

Last White Christmas: 2022 at my location  (I've also had a White Christmas in 2017 when I lived in Stanwood and a White Christmas at a hotel in Moscow, ID in 2020). 

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12 minutes ago, ChrisAmunRA said:

I'm pretty sure La Nina is dead SST wise gonna a take 4 weeks for atmospheric pattern to change up so likely gonna be very Nina like thru at least late March somewhere 20th of March on up pattern may change. 

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La Nina is definitely just about done. CPC has raised odds of Nino next winter to 65%.

Ensembles definitely hinting at a strong +PNA sometime in mid March. An early spring would be great, I've never been a fan of cool springs as it delays the trees!

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Heading to Whistler tomorrow and the wind chill is -48 up top right now. Told my friends who are already there to stay on the lower runs today if they don’t want literal frostbite. Hopefully they take me seriously. 😅

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Everett Snowfall (510 feet elevation)

Snow since February 2019: 85"

2022-23: 17.5"

2021-22: 17.75"

2020-21: 14.5”

2019-20: 10.5"

2018-19: 24.75"

 

 

 

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I think birds coming in for spring maybe 10-15 days late on arrival vs normal this year with the weather. First few of Swallows should have showed up a few days ago around parts of Puget Sound Region but nothing yet. 

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9 hours ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Higher elevations of the Santa Cruz Mountains tend to get an accumulating snowfall every other year or so. Unusual, but not super-rare, either.

Its obviously Elevation dependent.  I lived 5 years around 1000' in Lompico area of Felton.  never saw a flake, but the higher mtns over 3k-3500k get snow pretty much every winter

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