PNW February 2023 Weather Discussion - Meteorological winter finale

[T-Town]

[Deweydog]

3 minutes ago, Sandy rocks said:

I love living in Sandy. It's a small town. I don't even like going into the city any more. I grew up in a small town in SW Washington with 80 inches of rain so the rain here doesn't bother me. I love having a creek and 100 foot tall trees behind me. I really like after 28 years, getting away from the east wind. We have it but it is usually at the top of the trees. I thought we would get more snow with double the elevation  but now I am wondering, we didn't get so much on Wednesday. Hopefully I will do better with the next round(s).

2/22/23 will go down as a pretty fickle beast. You should do much better with the more traditional onshore flow/stratiform setups.

[Olive1010]

Hey guys, long time no talk. I’ve got 5 inches west of Portland from that big snow storm, but we already have another winter storm watch. 

[Sandy rocks]

That's good to know. I thought it was weird getting less than farther inland. I know it took longer to get the east wind. I see there was a lot in east Vancouver and Camas although my sister in Hockinson only got three inches.

[Cascadia_Wx]

In downtown Portland this evening, still lots of snow around and packed snow/icy street conditions. The staying power of this snow has been impressive, especially for so late in the season.

[TT-SEA]

7 minutes ago, T-Town said:

There is the view you can't get in Colorado!

[Rubus Leucodermis]

NAM 3km and HRDPS both say 8"+ IMBY Saturday night.

[Cold Snap]

00z NAM goes nuts for the South sound.

[T-Town]

Just now, TT-SEA said:

There is the view you can't get in Colorado!

Yeah, that’s the thing…. Also love Northern California, where the ocean is at least in reach. But, too expensive. 

[Deweydog]

4 minutes ago, Sandy rocks said:

That's good to know. I thought it was weird getting less than farther inland. I know it took longer to get the east wind. I see there was a lot in east Vancouver and Camas although my sister in Hockinson only got three inches.

Driving yesterday it was pretty notable how sporadic it was. In the heart of downtown Hockinson they only had about two inches, then there was a pocket just to the north where we got about six inches, although we probably accumulated about eight or so. This was evident on the west side too with the big gap between the north end of the Vancouver city limits and Ridgefield. Then just north and east of that in La Center they had a solid dumping.

[Doinko]

1 minute ago, Deweydog said:

Driving yesterday it was pretty notable how sporadic it was. In the heart of downtown Hockinson they only had about two inches, then there was a pocket just to the north where we got about six inches, although we probably accumulated about eight or so. This was evident on the west side too with the big gap between the north end of the Vancouver city limits and Ridgefield. Then just north and east of that in La Center they had a solid dumping.

Looks like places to our west around Hillsboro/Aloha had up to 10" in spots. We only got around 6 here, that heavy band around midnight must've lingered there longer or something.

[TonyP]

What time does the 18z euro run? 

[SouthHillFrosty]

7 minutes ago, Cold Snap said:

00z NAM goes nuts for the South sound.

LFG

[SouthHillFrosty]

Just now, TonyP said:

What time does the 18z euro run? 

4pm. 

[TT-SEA]

7 minutes ago, Cold Snap said:

00z NAM goes nuts for the South sound.

North of Portland too.     That would redeem Kelso and Ridgefield.

[Doinko]

2 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

North of Portland too.     That would redeem Kelso and Ridgefield.

Sunday could be good up there too

[Rubus Leucodermis]

3 minutes ago, SouthHillFrosty said:

4pm. 

It says I get 35 cm (14") Saturday night!!!

[Doinko]

36/16 at Hillsboro today, very impressive. That's after a 30/23 day yesterday there

[lowlandsnow]

Michael Synder is not pleased with NWS Seattle's lack of/late winter weather warnings 

Hopefully you aren't waiting for guidance from the

@NWS

Seattle Cause they will wait until the last minute, defeating the purpose of weather forecasting

 

 

 

[KingstonWX]

1 minute ago, lowlandsnow said:

Michael Synder is not pleased with NWS Seattle's lack of/late winter weather warnings 

Hopefully you aren't waiting for guidance from the

@NWS

Seattle Cause they will wait until the last minute, defeating the purpose of weather forecasting

 

 

 

Shots fired. 

[KingstonWX]

As much as the NWS frustrates me, I'd hate to be the one to have to make the call on whether or not to issue watches and warnings in a situation like this. Despite the pepto models, it's still looking to be a marginal event, especially at this time of year, and the reactions from the public when they over-warn or hype everyone up for something that busts at the last minute is sometimes worse than the outcry they are getting right now for under-warning. For some reason the public loses more trust from the former than the latter, in my observations anyway.

[Cascadia_Wx]

4 minutes ago, Doinko said:

36/16 at Hillsboro today, very impressive. That's after a 30/23 day yesterday there

 

36/25 at PDX after 31/25 yesterday. Even though it didn’t get quite as cold as forecast, this morning’s low of 25 there still tied the daily record from 1969. 

Would be really neat if they could decouple tonight and get below 20 for the first time this winter, but that’s probably a long shot. Tomorrow’s record low of 23 (also from 1969) is likely within reach if the wind ever dies there though.

[Doinko]

That low Tuesday morning takes a great track for snow for the Puget Sound on the RDPS too

[TonyP]

The 00Z RDPS is also picking up on the deformation band Monday morning in the central PS area.

[lowlandsnow]

I really don't understand why NWS Seattle doesn't issue a winter weather advisory because almost every model shows at least 1/2 inch for the Seattle metro area besides maybe the NBM. 

[TT-SEA]

2 minutes ago, Doinko said:

That low Tuesday morning takes a great track for snow for the Puget Sound on the RDPS too

I have a sense Tuesday is going to be crazy up here.    

[lowlandsnow]

Seattle Weather Blog is on board for higher totals for the Sunday event

Still thinking 2 to 4 inches is likely across the Seattle area tomorrow night into midday Sunday—if not a bit more. Upcoming pattern looks ripe for several snow surprises into early March

[Cascadia_Wx]

23 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

Driving yesterday it was pretty notable how sporadic it was. In the heart of downtown Hockinson they only had about two inches, then there was a pocket just to the north where we got about six inches, although we probably accumulated about eight or so. This was evident on the west side too with the big gap between the north end of the Vancouver city limits and Ridgefield. Then just north and east of that in La Center they had a solid dumping.

Pretty continuous snowcover driving from Far East Vancouver to Portland today.

[lowlandsnow]

Are all NWS regions as bad as Portland and Seattle or are they just outliers?

[Cascadia_Wx]

2 minutes ago, lowlandsnow said:

Are all NWS regions as bad as Portland and Seattle or are they just outliers?

Yes.

[Cold Snap]

5 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

I have a sense Tuesday is going to be crazy up here.    

I really have a feeling this is going to be one of those events that sneaks up on us and surprises us last minute. Models have been trending snowier today and if that trend continues I wouldn’t be surprised if Seattle got it’s turn with something big.

[umadbro]

21 minutes ago, lowlandsnow said:

Michael Synder is not pleased with NWS Seattle's lack of/late winter weather warnings 

Hopefully you aren't waiting for guidance from the

@NWS

Seattle Cause they will wait until the last minute, defeating the purpose of weather forecasting

 

 

 

Apparently learned nothing from Portland.

[AlTahoe]

1 hour ago, Thunder98 said:

You may like the Climate of Casper, WY. Lots of snow, but sunny and steppe contential climate.

 

Casper has an ungodly amount of wind year round. If your an outdoors person the wind will drive you insane. That goes for most of Wyoming 

[Requiem]

4 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Pretty continuous snowcover driving from Far East Vancouver to Portland today.

Not sure about the Vancouver area, but I was surprised at how uniformly heavy accumulations were spread in the Portland metro. Pretty much everyone from Hillsboro to Troutdale, north to the river, and down to maybe Milwaukie received at least 6-8 inches (and obviously much more in *many* areas). Was nice to have that overnight second wave of the storm essentially acting as an equalizer for the west side (with, might I add, the heaviest snow I've seen here since January 2017).

[TT-SEA]

3 minutes ago, AlTahoe said:

Casper has an ungodly amount of wind year round. If your an outdoors person the wind will drive you insane. That goes for most of Wyoming 

Yep... wind is another really annoying factor with Intermountain West.   That constant wind would make it miserable (for me).

[SouthHillFrosty]

9 minutes ago, lowlandsnow said:

Are all NWS regions as bad as Portland and Seattle or are they just outliers?

I heard phx is good… all they do is forecast sun 

[BLI snowman]

Beautiful day in the Portland area with full sunshine, cold temps, and snowcover. A novelty in this region!

Camas still had a good 9-10" on the ground.

 

[Cold Snap]

No clue what model(s) the UW Dawgcast uses for this but it looks great for everyone and does seem like a reasonable map with how the models look right now.

[Snownerd3000]

Just now, Cold Snap said:

No clue what model(s) the UW Dawgcast uses for this but it looks great for everyone and does seem like a reasonable map with how the models look right now.

Did they just update this? The tweet of his I shared earlier looked way more meager than this.

[Cascadia_Wx]

2 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

Beautiful day in the Portland area with full sunshine, cold temps, and snowcover. A novelty in this region!

Camas still had a good 9-10" on the ground.

 

Awesome! Lacamas Park?

Yeah the snowmelt has been really slow despite two sunny days in almost March. Easily the best sunny/snowy combo around here since January 2017. Just stellar out there.

[Deweydog]

14 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Pretty continuous snowcover driving from Far East Vancouver to Portland today.

Yeah, I was shoveling for the in laws today not too far from your place (sorry I didn’t stop by) and it was impressive. They had some three foot drifts.

[BLI snowman]

1 minute ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Awesome! Lacamas Park?

Yeah the snowmelt has been really slow despite two sunny days in almost March. Easily the best sunny/snowy combo around here since January 2017. Just stellar out there.

Yessir! Top one was on Prune Hill where I imagine totals the other day were probably over 12".

[Cascadia_Wx]

1 minute ago, Deweydog said:

Yeah, I was shoveling for the in laws today not too far from your place (sorry I didn’t stop by) and it was impressive. They had some three foot drifts.

You could have grabbed some Chick-Fil-A! ️  

[Deweydog]

Just now, Cascadia_Wx said:

You could have grabbed some Chick-Fil-A! ️  

Maybe I did! It’s a form of tithing given bountiful blessings of the last 72 hours or so, Jess. 

[Cascadia_Wx]

1 minute ago, Deweydog said:

Maybe I did! It’s a form of tithing given bountiful blessings of the last 72 hours or so, Jess. 

Andrew is crying tears of joy.

[OysterPrintout]

3 hours ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Quick poll for all: Was snowfall a factor in you choosing your current place of residence?

For me, YES.

I think we've talked about this before but we both went to the same school (USU). I grew up in the SLC area and lived in Northern Utah for quite a while and moving to somewhere without regular snow was a highly motivating factor at the time. I love snow now but lord knows I do not miss 6 months of shoveling and scraping my car off every morning. The shine comes off that apple real quick.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Taking a break from my philanthropy to check the forum. 

[BLI snowman]

A period of offshore flow on Monday morning looks like a pretty good bet to me ahead of that storm.

Should guarantee another round of sticking snow IMO for most places including PDX. That plus the fact that I'll be 2000 miles away.

[Weiner Warrior]

Just now, OysterPrintout said:

I think we've talked about this before but we both went to the same school (USU). I grew up in the SLC area and lived in Northern Utah for quite a while and moving to somewhere without regular snow was a highly motivating factor at the time. I love snow now but lord knows I do not miss 6 months of shoveling and scraping my car off every morning. The shine comes off that apple real quick.

I lived in Bountiful UT for 10 years. Lot's of days during highschool where we'd get 8 inches of snow and still have to go

[BLI snowman]

Just now, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Taking a break from my philanthropy to check the forum.