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I saw something today that I dont think I remember ever seeing before. I pulled a wild onion sprout that was 7" tall. The problem here is that it isn't March or April, its almost September. I will admit also, that this is the weirdest summer I ever remember because it's the only one I know of that I can say almost anything about and it be true. I've had everything but snow and a hurricane I think. Lol. Has anyone noticed anything unusual in the last week to 10 days that falls into the weather lore category? I always enjoy these types of things even if folks think they're silly.

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I saw something today that I dont think I remember ever seeing before. I pulled a wild onion sprout that was 7" tall. The problem here is that it isn't March or April, its almost September. I will admit also, that this is the weirdest summer I ever remember because it's the only one I know of that I can say almost anything about and it be true. I've had everything but snow and a hurricane I think. Lol. Has anyone noticed anything unusual in the last week to 10 days that falls into the weather lore category? I always enjoy these types of things even if folks think they're silly.

 

The Goldenrod is already blooming out. Perhaps a week or 2 early. It's more of a mid-Sept event around SWMI. You could add those numerous winter headlines in August as anomalous too imho. Kudos for the thread idea. I'm still waiting to see if squirrels migrate south as reported in the autumn of 1842 around Grand Rapids.. 

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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The Goldenrod is already blooming out. Perhaps a week or 2 early. It's more of a mid-Sept event around SWMI. You could add those numerous winter headlines in August as anomalous too imho. Kudos for the thread idea. I'm still waiting to see if squirrels migrate south as reported in the autumn of 1842 around Grand Rapids..

Squirrels migrating? That's nuts! :lol:

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Yeah I drove to York today and saw multiple harvested corn fields. Never seen harvested corn fields in August here. I've seen it in Kansas where the season is longer, though.

You are right. We played a football game in Geneva and corn was looking ready to harvest. Hope it means an early and hard winter. Need it after this long humid summer.

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I saw something today that I dont think I remember ever seeing before. I pulled a wild onion sprout that was 7" tall. The problem here is that it isn't March or April, its almost September. I will admit also, that this is the weirdest summer I ever remember because it's the only one I know of that I can say almost anything about and it be true. I've had everything but snow and a hurricane I think. Lol. Has anyone noticed anything unusual in the last week to 10 days that falls into the weather lore category? I always enjoy these types of things even if folks think they're silly.

I am seeing more leaves changing colors much earlier this year than last couple of years.

Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024:

Season So Far: 26.7"

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Sumac seem to be changing here, seems early, but not sure.

 

We had a bunch of Sumac get autumn colors two weeks ago along the freeways. Ends up, it was due to MDOT spraying chemicals. THANKS MDOT!! Lazy bunch o' Morons. I vote we get the tax paying, law-abiding public some healthier brush removal via putting the incarcerated to the task like they used to do. Oh wait, that'd be too much like real work.. :rolleyes:

Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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Saw one corn field getting chopped down yesterday over this way!

Corn 3 weeks early and being fully ready is so incredibly unusual. I worked in a mill for a long time that made a product that was priced based on corn. I dont remember ever seeing harvest come both so early and with expectation to be above average.

 

Folks who wait 3 more weeks might have some really frosty corn.

 

 

I was listening to a group of older gentlemen the other day talking about some birds and bird hunting that they used to do years ago. When my dad was young, there were large groups of quail and dove around the area. As the last 30 years or so have were on, many have went years without seeing any of them at all. In fact, I know I haven't flushed a full covey of quail since 1996. I heard dove hunters yesterday for the first time since I cannot remember when. I have saw a couple of quail per year over the past 2 years, and I have heard of folks that I grew up with planning some of their first quail hunts in a generation. It is really cool to see this stuff. I really dont know if it means a dang thing but I hope it does. :lol:

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No trees changing, but more rain than usual for late Aug/Sept. after weeks of blistering heat.

Way early for us.

Texas weather is just not typical this year after about July 1st.

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2018 Rainfall - 62.65" High Temp. - 110.03* Low Temp. - 8.4*

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Canadian Geese are already practicing their V-formation. Very early this year. Fuzzy caterpillars are everywhere.

 

Snagged, but not sure their exact location?

Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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Hmmm. So if they're here (overhead) soon, they'll be a month or more early.

All of that Canadian cold air building up in Canada is def impacting the wild life.  It'll be interesting watching what happens over the next couple weeks, esp how quick the leaves begin to turn color this year.  I can't wait for the cooler air to hit this weekend so that the "skeeter" population dwindles down a bit.  Holy macro are we getting infested over here!

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All of that Canadian cold air building up in Canada is def impacting the wild life.  It'll be interesting watching what happens over the next couple weeks, esp how quick the leaves begin to turn color this year.  I can't wait for the cooler air to hit this weekend so that the "skeeter" population dwindles down a bit.  Holy macro are we getting infested over here!

The "skeeter" population on this side of the lake is bad also. I think they are making up for how dry it was earlier in the summer. It will take a good frost to knock them down.  

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The "skeeter" population on this side of the lake is bad also. I think they are making up for how dry it was earlier in the summer. It will take a good frost to knock them down.  

Ya, those pesky skeeters will prob live through the cool down this weekend, but by late next week, I think we will finally say good bye.  The very warm and wet first 10 days of Sept did the trick, esp across WI.  Check out this article regarding record amount of mosquitos: https://www.channel3000.com/news/record-number-of-mosquitoes-for-september/796550410

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We don't really have that bad of a mosquito problem, which is surprising considering the amount of rain we have received this summer. Our main problem are these pesky little black bugs. I believe they are called pirate bugs; nothing works with keeping them away and they bite so dang bad! My middle child gets huge welts from them because she is so sensitive to them! Working in the garden is tough when these things are out in full force. 

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All of that Canadian cold air building up in Canada is def impacting the wild life.  It'll be interesting watching what happens over the next couple weeks, esp how quick the leaves begin to turn color this year.  I can't wait for the cooler air to hit this weekend so that the "skeeter" population dwindles down a bit.  Holy macro are we getting infested over here!

 

We're a month from the beginning of peak colors in the farmlands around SWMI. I have noticed that the low-lying marshy areas which support the red sugar maples are like little pockets of color among the green woodlands. These usually turn early and back in the mid-80's when we used to get direct early cold shots targeting this region, I remember seeing them turning in late August even. I call September the "golden month" around here because the Goldenrod blooms out, some kind of wild daisy flowers bloom yellow, and you begin to see yellow leafs on some trees. Oranges are usually seen in October as well as non-lowland reds. If we get a true cold snap with a frosty morning or two it'll go a long ways towards accelerating the seasonal changes of foliage. Had to wait until Oct 26th last year for our 1st frost (which was also our 1st freeze @ 26F). Leaf color was late and unimpressive because of that. And all those heavy rain systems didn't help with the color season either. Shouldn't be hard to improve on last year! 

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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We don't really have that bad of a mosquito problem, which is surprising considering the amount of rain we have received this summer. Our main problem are these pesky little black bugs. I believe they are called pirate bugs; nothing works with keeping them away and they bite so dang bad! My middle child gets huge welts from them because she is so sensitive to them! Working in the garden is tough when these things are out in full force. 

 

Hmm..had not heard of 'em tbh

 

Pirate Bugs..PNG

Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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I have now noticed the birds that were flying here are literally gone. I remember when my sprinklers were on, they would go nuts trying to drink some water and get wet from the really hot weather. Now, they have disappeared. Its been more than a week or so.

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Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024:

Season So Far: 26.7"

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We don't really have that bad of a mosquito problem, which is surprising considering the amount of rain we have received this summer. Our main problem are these pesky little black bugs. I believe they are called pirate bugs; nothing works with keeping them away and they bite so dang bad! My middle child gets huge welts from them because she is so sensitive to them! Working in the garden is tough when these things are out in full force.

We call em 'no see ems' ! Lol cuz they are so tiny and yeah they will bite ya!
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We call em 'no see ems' ! Lol cuz they are so tiny and yeah they will bite ya!

 

Oh, we have "no see-umms" here too by that name. But we aren't getting bitten that I've heard about anyways. We have another banner late blooming crop of "stink bugs" tho they're mostly harmless but can't fly for sh*t so you're likely to just get smacked in the face by one when it goes air-born. Like Turkeys, they seem to prefer walk-abouts over use of their wings. They keep the big spider under my flower box fed tho.. 

Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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I think birds flew south. Indicative of a cold Winter coming. :unsure:

Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024:

Season So Far: 26.7"

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From Adam in the SMI forum. He's an Amateur Met as well as a tree raising SME, so I take his insights seriously. His call by reading nature nailed 2013-14 (and fwiw, he doesn't even mention Wooly-bears, lol)

 

 

We have been in a weak solar cycle for several years now ftw. I follow that religiously.

Take away all the techno talk and look at nature there are signs that haven't been there since 2013 for a pretty big and cold winter.

Many dense fogs from Aug to the end of September. Huge numbers of squirrels state wide that have been extremely active for over a month.

Anyone notice on those foggy dew filled mornings how many spider webs have been all over?. Huge acorn crop from the important Oaks (Burr Oaks).

Tons of Cotton seeds early on in the year as well as a bumper crop from most nut bearing trees. Spruce trees had no cones this year but the White Pines are overloaded.

Oct 2013 behaved much like this one has with unusual warmth and humidity. Lets talk about that moisture for a second. The entire summer minus a few days was exceptionally humid with average daily dews in the 68-72 degree range. Now keep a look at all the moisture that has been falling in the plains. Moist air won't be an issue and I would suggest even weak systems could produce significant amounts of precip this winter.

This winter might be a mixed bag of 14/15, 13/14 and 77/78.

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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