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That's awesome Jaster. Speaking of wooly bears, I saw an all black one. I haven't ever saw one before that didn't have a band on it so at first I didn't know what it was. Lol. Sure enough...wooly bear.

 

Wow! I have no idea if there's any merit to the old adage tbh, but Mich Peeps swear there were a ton of solid black WB's across SMI 5 yrs ago. I hardly ever see one here at my city address, so I can't confirm 1st hand. Just via random social media posts and such.

Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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From Adam in the SMI forum. He's an Amateur Met as well as a tree raising SME, so I take his insights seriously. His call by reading nature nailed 2013-14 (and fwiw, he doesn't even mention Wooly-bears, lol)

 

As a comparison on a couple of the seasons in his tri-fecta

 

This is a county road a little bit inland from St. Joseph/Benton Harbor:

 

Benton Twnshp Mich Jan '78 vs Jan '14.jpg

 

While the 2014 drift looks a bit higher? '78 appears to have an equally massive pile on both sides of the road. Jan '14 was a constant WSW wind like non-stop between systems and I'm sure that's reflected in the west side being much taller in that photo. Not saying we see this stuff again, but to quote Niko "nevva say nevva!"

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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As a comparison on a couple of the seasons in his tri-fecta

 

This is a county road a little bit inland from St. Joseph/Benton Harbor:

 

Benton Twnshp Mich Jan '78 vs Jan '14.jpg

 

While the 2014 drift looks a bit higher? '78 appears to have an equally massive pile on both sides of the road. Jan '14 was a constant WSW wind like non-stop between systems and I'm sure that's reflected in the west side being much taller in that photo. Not saying we see this stuff again, but to quote Niko "nevva say nevva!"

I believe we will see those things again. And maybe greater things.

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Wow! I have no idea if there's any merit to the old adage tbh, but Mich Peeps swear there were a ton of solid black WB's across SMI 5 yrs ago. I hardly ever see one here at my city address, so I can't confirm 1st hand. Just via random social media posts and such.

I wish I'd have taken a picture of it. I think the last one I had found before was in 2013 or 2014 so that's strange also. It was the banded one. I like folklore. I think people sometimes miss the reasons behind some of it, which makes it wisdom if you can understand why something had become repeatable enough to become a saying or expression.

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Guess I missed this report yesterday. MQT NWS had 1.5" of SNOW Friday.

 

They usually get a "T" or "dab" this early, but not that kind of accumulation. It's early, even by their stds!

 

Article:

 

https://www.mlive.com/weather/index.ssf/2018/10/first_snow_fall_recorded_in_mi.html#incart_river_index

 

Pretty funny comment by a "Troll" (one of us who lives under the bridge..in case Niko was unaware)

 

Sorry weather gods, you will have to do this stuff in the proper order. First the trees turn colors and look pretty, then they fall and we get crisp days, then I put them all in bags while exercising my 4 letter vocab and smiling for the neighbors. We have no song about a white Thanksgiving. Please maintain the proper order - no snow shoveling in the lower till Dec.

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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Guess I missed this report yesterday. MQT NWS had 1.5" of SNOW Friday.

 

They usually get a "T" or "dab" this early, but not that kind of accumulation. It's early, even by their stds!

 

Article:

 

https://www.mlive.com/weather/index.ssf/2018/10/first_snow_fall_recorded_in_mi.html#incart_river_index

 

Pretty funny comment by a "Troll" (one of us who lives under the bridge..in case Niko was unaware)

Lol. That fella must not love snow. I'd take a snowy day in July if I could get one. :lol:

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Guess I missed this report yesterday. MQT NWS had 1.5" of SNOW Friday.

 

They usually get a "T" or "dab" this early, but not that kind of accumulation. It's early, even by their stds!

 

Article:

 

https://www.mlive.com/weather/index.ssf/2018/10/first_snow_fall_recorded_in_mi.html#incart_river_index

 

Pretty funny comment by a "Troll" (one of us who lives under the bridge..in case Niko was unaware)

;)

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Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024:

Season So Far: 26.7"

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I think this could go in here. Two potent tropical cyclones with a snowstorm in progress. Something you don't see on every day's weather map

 

20181009 18Z gfs_mslp_h36.png

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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Some of you on here have spoken about acorns, but I’m not familiar with the folklore. With that being said, I was in Highland Park yesterday and during some stronger gusts, lots of acorn were falling off the trees. Squirrels are having a feast this Autumn.

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Looking back to our summer in Texas I don't recall it ever following this pattern.

Brutal heat June and July. Highs 110-115. Then in August everything changed to rain, more wind. Lower temps.

Some rains quite heavy.

This trend has continued to this day.

 

A week of rain forecast with accumulations of 3"+. The past 2 1/2 months have been so odd.

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“If I owned Texas and Hell, I would rent out Texas and live in Hell.”  Gen. Sheridan 1866

2018 Rainfall - 62.65" High Temp. - 110.03* Low Temp. - 8.4*

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Looking back to our summer in Texas I don't recall it ever following this pattern.

Brutal heat June and July. Highs 110-115. Then in August everything changed to rain, more wind. Lower temps.

Some rains quite heavy.

This trend has continued to this day.

 

A week of rain forecast with accumulations of 3"+. The past 2 1/2 months have been so odd.

Same here, it was like 2 springs, 2 summers and then "boom" cold and rainy starting July 31 until now, with exception to the 8 days to open this month.

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From NE thd, but could've been my post for Marshall, lol

 

 

I can’t remember a period where we had such  intense t-storms in non summer months. Going back to that beast in February two years ago 

Certainly it will make for an interesting study one day. Last week Matt Noyes said he thought it could be something that may be studied for years

 

Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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Borrowed from an Amwx post. It's not exactly squirrels heading south, but might be just as ominous, lol

 

 

While I was raking leaves, the sandhill cranes were winging their way south with V's upon V's heading south. That is a bad sign when the sandhill's give up the ghost and say they are out of here. Only bad news in the future now.

 

Sunday afternoon heading home from BC I noticed a massive flock of SHC's myself. Not familiar with their migratory habits tho tbh

Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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Cant seem to find anything out of ordinary, since I last posted on this thread. Will certainly keep an eye on it tho.

Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024:

Season So Far: 26.7"

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Just saw the first cardinal of Spring.

Cardinals don’t migrate around here that I know of. I saw ours all winter, but they don’t sing till early spring. I think their song is a territorial thing, warning other cardinals of their claim to a certain territory.

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The Turkey Vultures arrived about mid-March with that strong storm that melted everything. They seem to follow the snow line north very closely. Whereas some Eagles will winter in NMI and feed off of dead (and frozen) deer, apparently the "road kill crew" vultures don't like their hamburgers frozen. Guess that's why I always see them hangin around Wendy's

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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The Turkey Vultures arrived about mid-March with that strong storm that melted everything. They seem to follow the snow line north very closely. Whereas some Eagles will winter in NMI and feed off of dead (and frozen) deer, apparently the "road kill crew" vultures don't like their hamburgers frozen. Guess that's why I always see them hangin around Wendy's

I think I saw the first vultures here about the same time.

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Haven't written in here in a long time.

Couple of seasonal oddities to monitor here for me...

Usually geese do not migrate back north over Oklahoma, to my knowledge, yet I hear some almost every day lately. Something I have at least never noticed before.

Seeing moths already. That's very strange also. Usually the larger, colorful moths aren't out until late May.

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