Tom Posted October 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 Euro has a strong system even earlier than GFS. (just after Election Day). For the sake of simpliciity, I just did 240 HR as there really is no other systems that would affect these "fantasy" totals. One can dream- even in early NOV as I did go through Halloween SupeSnow of 1991. ecmwfued-null--usnc-240-C-kucheratot.pngGrizz, nice to see ya back buddy! Hope you had a great summer. Ready for tracking winter storms this season?? BTW, I took a look at the 12z EPS members for this particular storm and there are a lot of members spinning up a monster storm somewhere across our region. This may be the next winter storm we track around here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted October 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 I'll start off by saying, this month is going to be a heck of a ride with storms galore from what I'm seeing right now. Such an exciting pattern is shaping up and it starts off in earnest across the S Plains in deep TX, as a piece of energy ramps up along a dragging CF draped across the Arklatex region right up into the OV. The models have been wavering on the exact track, but I'm seeing the Euro really try to dig and deepen this system into a healthy developed storm into the low 990's across SW Ontario. In fact, it's showing a decent defo band of precip across OK/MO/IL/IN/MI while tracking across the OV. The next 2 weeks will likely feature many cutter's as the SE is showing no signs of breaking up through mid month. Gear up for an exciting month! FWIW, the signal for snow fall is growing across the MW/Upper MW and now into parts of W NE as we get deeper into the month. From what I'm seeing, the GEFS are showing a stronger signal for a Cross Polar Flow pattern shaping up just beyond Day 10. Another clue that I'm seeing is the location of a new pocket of 30mb warming evolving across the NE PAC/Aleutians Islands which suggest to me that the SE ridge may grow around Week 3-4 of November and that is right around the time I mentioned the LRC could begin to re-cycle. My target date has been around 11/22 so we'll see how this all shapes up later in the month. I recall vividly, the opening days of October had a nasty NE PAC ridge and a massive EC ridge all in tandem. If you were to ask me where I'd like to see the 30mb warming evolve in order to forecast a pattern as mentioned, it would be in this exact location. Let's see what nature decides to do. http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/intraseasonal/temp30anim.gif 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 I'll start off by saying, this month is going to be a heck of a ride with storms galore from what I'm seeing right now. Such an exciting pattern is shaping up and it starts off in earnest across the S Plains in deep TX, as a piece of energy ramps up along a dragging CF draped across the Arklatex region right up into the OV. The models have been wavering on the exact track, but I'm seeing the Euro really try to dig and deepen this system into a healthy developed storm into the low 990's across SW Ontario. In fact, it's showing a decent defo band of precip across OK/MO/IL/IN/MI while tracking across the OV. The next 2 weeks will likely feature many cutter's as the SE is showing no signs of breaking up through mid month. Gear up for an exciting month! FWIW, the signal for snow fall is growing across the MW/Upper MW and now into parts of W NE as we get deeper into the month. From what I'm seeing, the GEFS are showing a stronger signal for a Cross Polar Flow pattern shaping up just beyond Day 10. Another clue that I'm seeing is the location of a new pocket of 30mb warming evolving across the NE PAC/Aleutians Islands which suggest to me that the SE ridge may grow around Week 3-4 of November and that is right around the time I mentioned the LRC could begin to re-cycle. My target date has been around 11/22 so we'll see how this all shapes up later in the month. I recall vividly, the opening days of October had a nasty NE PAC ridge and a massive EC ridge all in tandem. If you were to ask me where I'd like to see the 30mb warming evolve in order to forecast a pattern as mentioned, it would be in this exact location. Let's see what nature decides to do. http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/intraseasonal/temp30anim.gifI have never seen such a huge ridge in the GOA. Notice how far north the warm waters have gone there. The graph above illustrates waters being at least 3 to 4 degrees warmer than usual. Just amazing. Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted October 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 I have never seen such a huge ridge in the GOA. Notice how far north the warm waters have gone there. The graph above illustrates waters being at least 3 to 4 degrees warmer than usual. Just amazing.The graphic above are the 30mb temps, not the SST’s, but you are right regarding the impressive warmth of the waters in the NE PAC which are in deed impacting the general region nearby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 Whoa Euro! Every once in awhile the Euro will do something like that and then dramatically back off, but I definitely give it more of a shot than if we saw it on the GFS. I'll be interested to see what today's run shows. Looks like a nice storm right now. 192 hours isn't so far out of the realm of possibility either. http://maps1.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/ecmwf/2018103000/192/sfcmslp.conus.png 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 Such an exciting pattern is shaping up and it starts off in earnest across the S Plains in deep TX, as a piece of energy ramps up along a dragging CF draped across the Arklatex region right up into the OV. The models have been wavering on the exact track, but I'm seeing the Euro really try to dig and deepen this system into a healthy developed storm into the low 990's across SW Ontario. In fact, it's showing a decent defo band of precip across OK/MO/IL/IN/MI while tracking across the OV. Just like last year, the GEM also following the Euro's lead and amps this decently. Meanwhile, the GFS is out to lunch with it's progressive self. Sure will elevate my confidence in the Euro-GEM duo if they score the coup with this early test of the models. Nothing like OHV-GLs bombs in the cards as they say. Here's a "GEM" pummeling mby next week 2 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormgeek Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 Whoa Euro! Every once in awhile the Euro will do something like that and then dramatically back off, but I definitely give it more of a shot than if we saw it on the GFS. I'll be interested to see what today's run shows. Looks like a nice storm right now. 192 hours isn't so far out of the realm of possibility either. http://maps1.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/ecmwf/2018103000/192/sfcmslp.conus.pngThat is so beautiful. I don't care if it is fantasy land, that is amazing! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esquimalt Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 Do you guys trust the new GFS or the old for temperature anomalies/major precipitation events? Because the new GFs has been a whole lot more promising of late for cold and snow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 the new GFS is on the storm. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 Euro is colder than GFS. Who wins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 As of now, November is looking stormy. Whether is rain, snow or both, we will have to see. 1 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esquimalt Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 Euro is colder than GFS. Who wins?Hopefully the King Euro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 Euro still has the storm, shifted it southeast some though. Doesn't look like as much cold air on the back side though. http://maps1.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/ecmwf/2018103012/168/sfcmslp.conus.png 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Paul Storm Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 The Arrowhead and Thunder Bay hit hard on that run. Cold air is lacking in the Midwest. Actually looks like a lot of 240 hr snowfall happens before early next week in the Arrowhead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 @Jaster... Do ya think we will see a Winterstorm in November? Better yet, do you think its a good idea, in terms of getting a snowstorm during that month. Some say that November snows mean a lame Winter to follow. Idk, but, tbh, I don't usually believe in that crap, but, ya neva know, right?! No?! Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 @Jaster... Do ya think we will see a Winterstorm in November? Better yet, do you think its a good idea, in terms of getting a snowstorm during that month. Some say that November snows mean a lame Winter to follow. Idk, but, tbh, I don't usually believe in that crap, but, ya neva know, right?! No?! What we do have here in The Mitt is a very positive connection during good winters between a strong storm (doesn't have to be a snow maker tbh) in November and another strong storm the following January/February. Here's a list of years when when this came true:Nov '66 & Jan '67Nov '89 & Jan '90Nov '98 & Jan '99Nov '13 & Jan '14Nov '15 & Feb '16 These two featured major LES events in November followed by Big DogsNov '77 & Jan '78Nov '14 & Feb 1st '15 Interestingly, Nov of 2013 only had 1.2" of snowfall here in Marshall. Shows that we can still have a great winter without much snow during the month before MET winter. As Tom has pointed out tho, this winter may well begin early and thus this November may break the mold so to speak. At least in modern times. 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 #FOUND 1st fantasy winter storm for mby 3 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Paul Storm Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 #FOUND 1st fantasy winter storm for mbyHey, only 348 hours til game time. Ha! Locked and loaded. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted October 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 Overnight runs are beginning to show some consistency towards another system digging deep into the S Plains early next week and cutting up towards the GL's. The GFS/GGEM are showing a GL's bomb, while the Euro has taken a step back but still advertising a healthy storm around the GL's. I'm loving the way these systems are literally digging and energizing right over our sub forum and keeping the action smack dab in the central CONUS. Some of you on here may remember the storms during the '77-'78 era...did they track in a similar fashion??? I mean, this area of our region is action packed with systems every other day it seems. Individual 00z GEFS members are showing a lot of big systems... 00z GEFS individual members are reminiscent of the old fashioned storm tracks that pound the region in the winter season...00z EPS members are also looking similar....this will likely be our next storm thread.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted October 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 Looking out farther, nearly every model is now starting to agree that a big shot of arctic air is on the table post 6th/7th storm system. This may even tug down a piece of the Vortex if everything lines. In a season which everything seems to be aligning, why not??? I've showed the clues off the GEFS 10mb forecasts and they are becoming very clear, the Polar Vortex will be perturbed as we head into early November and reminds me of how it evolved in the very cold '13-'14 season....stretched out and perturbed...it was not long ago, this particular model was not agreeing at 500mb with it's own 10mb forecasts and I knew without any doubts it would trend colder, much colder. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted October 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 This is big, while the Arctic has been a bit warm since October, temps are falling off a cliff and setting the stage for North America to fill up with major sub zero cold across Canada...just in time, when the overall flow becomes amplified. Yet another example of nature aligning things just right. I'm telling ya, this season just seems to be heading in the right direction each and every way you look at it. http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/plots/meanTarchive/meanT_2018.png 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 #FOUND 1st fantasy winter storm for mby Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 What we do have here in The Mitt is a very positive connection during good winters between a strong storm (doesn't have to be a snow maker tbh) in November and another strong storm the following January/February. Here's a list of years when when this came true:Nov '66 & Jan '67Nov '89 & Jan '90Nov '98 & Jan '99Nov '13 & Jan '14Nov '15 & Feb '16 These two featured major LES events in November followed by Big DogsNov '77 & Jan '78Nov '14 & Feb 1st '15 Interestingly, Nov of 2013 only had 1.2" of snowfall here in Marshall. Shows that we can still have a great winter without much snow during the month before MET winter. As Tom has pointed out tho, this winter may well begin early and thus this November may break the mold so to speak. At least in modern times.Very nice info Jaster. Great points you made there. 1 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 The graphic above are the 30mb temps, not the SST’s, but you are right regarding the impressive warmth of the waters in the NE PAC which are in deed impacting the general region nearby.As long as Alaska stays warm, we are all happy campers here in the lower 48. 2 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esquimalt Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 Looking out farther, nearly every model is now starting to agree that a big shot of arctic air is on the table post 6th/7th storm system. This may even tug down a piece of the Vortex if everything lines. In a season which everything seems to be aligning, why not??? I've showed the clues off the GEFS 10mb forecasts and they are becoming very clear, the Polar Vortex will be perturbed as we head into early November and reminds me of how it evolved in the very cold '13-'14 season....stretched out and perturbed...it was not long ago, this particular model was not agreeing at 500mb with it's own 10mb forecasts and I knew without any doubts it would trend colder, much colder.Yeah Tom it’s truly amazing. From the gfs ensembles, we’re looking at 3-4 degree temp anomalies on 850 mb level the entire 8 to 15th period! What is the EPS mean looking like on that period? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted October 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 Yeah Tom it’s truly amazing. From the gfs ensembles, we’re looking at 3-4 degree temp anomalies on 850 mb level the entire 8 to 15th period! What is the EPS mean looking like on that period?The EPS has lead the way with the colder look and still is maintaining it through the extended, except for the last couple days or so where it may back off a bit which would be anticipated after an unloading of arctic air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esquimalt Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 The EPS has lead the way with the colder look and still is maintaining it through the extended, except for the last couple days or so where it may back off a bit which would be anticipated after an unloading of arctic air.How cool does the EPS believe it to be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 Canadian wants to keep Fri interesting for SMI. Would be nice if it's right. 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 Overnight runs are beginning to show some consistency towards another system digging deep into the S Plains early next week and cutting up towards the GL's. The GFS/GGEM are showing a GL's bomb, while the Euro has taken a step back but still advertising a healthy storm around the GL's. I'm loving the way these systems are literally digging and energizing right over our sub forum and keeping the action smack dab in the central CONUS. Some of you on here may remember the storms during the '77-'78 era...did they track in a similar fashion??? I mean, this area of our region is action packed with systems every other day it seems. Individual 00z GEFS members are showing a lot of big systems... 00z GEFS individual members are reminiscent of the old fashioned storm tracks that pound the region in the winter season...00z EPS members are also looking similar....this will likely be our next storm thread.... Classic Chi-town to Mackinaw powerhouse system..and that's the ensemble mean. What if part of this season's M.O. is that storms actually trend towards the stronger side of the mean? Wouldn't that be sweet for a change? 4 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 Canadian wants to keep Fri interesting for SMI. Would be nice if it's right. 20181031 0z gem_mslp_pcpn_frzn_us_54.pngWhat a great track. Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 Canadian wants to keep Fri interesting for SMI. Would be nice if it's right. 20181031 0z gem_mslp_pcpn_frzn_us_54.png I might add, that's like the perfect SLP placement for Marshall. Nice to finally see this stuff on models (that aren't 200+ hrs out) Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 Interesting that WPC likes SMI for a "mix" on Friday. Local office not biting ofc 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 I'm still here, friends. I'm just watching and observing the beauty of all the moving parts of this Northern Hemisphere pattern. It's a beautiful thing to see. Great things are still on the way. They didn't get wasted in October either and the Arctic is reloading at the right time. When it discharges across the pole next time,...., game, set, match. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 The models are all backing off the storm winding up in time to give too much to Iowa next week. However, it still looks cold following the system. Today's 12z euro has highs in the 20s and lows in the teens across Iowa for the first time by day 9/10. It may not pan out that cold, but this is coldest air on any euro run this season. 1 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerRick Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 Zzzzzz..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andie Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 Texas is seeing a good deal of rain today, some quite heavy which has beaten a lot of the colorful leaves off the trees. I've seen over 1"so we're 24" over normal for the year with it still raining. 54* with low of 49* tonight. Some of you have mentioned Jan. Of 78 storm in your models. I was in Aurora,Ill.for that storm. 75mph+ winds and over110" of snow that winter. Lost track of final snowfall. This was a rough storm. House shook like it would collapse at times. You'll love it! If that happens. 1 Quote Before You Diagnose Yourself With Depression or Low Self-Esteem,...First Make Sure You Are Not In Fact, Just Surrounded By A$$holes. “If I owned Texas and Hell, I would rent out Texas and live in Hell.” Gen. Sheridan 1866 2018 Rainfall - 62.65" High Temp. - 110.03* Low Temp. - 8.4* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 Zzzzzz..... No kidding. Models are pretty D**n boring here for the near future. Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 No kidding. Models are pretty d**n boring here for the near future.NWS Hastings basically saying northwest flow for awhile with periodic precipitation chances with anything of substance north and east of us. Maybe some changes by the middle of November, we’ll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder98 Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 Cold and Cloudy forecasts for Wausau, WI, Duluth, MN, Marquette, MI, and Minot, ND! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 Interesting that WPC likes SMI for a "mix" on Friday. Local office not biting ofc 20181031 WPC d3 map for Fri Nov02.gifRain/snow likely for my area Friday nite. Lets see how that plays out. 1 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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