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March 2014 Observations and Discussions Part II


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Cloudy with a chance of making stuff up !

 

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wkDvqQKGgDA

 

After this winter, one can sympathize with Canada.

 

Lol!  :lol:

That was pretty good!

 

Intense!

 

Mercer Island, 350 ft

2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21

2020-2021: 15.6"

2019-2020: ~10"

2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5"

2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0"

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Looking at the MKX radar, it looks like the city will get one of the heavier portions of this line.

Mercer Island, 350 ft

2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21

2020-2021: 15.6"

2019-2020: ~10"

2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5"

2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0"

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To prove that April snowstorms are real and can happen, here is a photo from my town (Cedar Rapids,Iowa) on April 10, 1973. The city received over 14 inches from this storm and it was truly one to remember. Even though highs are expected to hit around 65 by later this weekend and early next week, that does not mean we are done with winter, if I remember, we were in the 70's-80's for highs before this April 1973 blizzard hit. 

 

I remember that storm! Yes! I AM THAT OLD!! LOL.

Milwaukee received a foot of very heavy, wet, cement type snow...with winds gusting over 60 mph! The snow was icy and hurt as it hit your face! This was my first experience with thundersnow! This was the storm that really got me interested in weather and snowstorms in particular when I was young.

Just a few days after the storm, it got warm and we received a lot of rain resulting in tremendous flooding.

This definitely ranks as one of my favorite snowstorms in my lifetime!

 

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h303/MKEman/AprilStorm1973.png

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MKX needs to put out a SWS then - if it's causing that many accidents.

Mercer Island, 350 ft

2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21

2020-2021: 15.6"

2019-2020: ~10"

2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5"

2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0"

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I would just pull off the road or at least onto the shoulder if it was that bad. I remember an intense band like this way back in December of 2000 that put down 3". Hit during rush hour... !

 

North of I-94 could easily pick up an inch.

 

Mercer Island, 350 ft

2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21

2020-2021: 15.6"

2019-2020: ~10"

2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5"

2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0"

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I can confirm, heard thunder for the first time this winter here, or should I say spring. Picked up 1.2 inches in 20 minutes. 

 

Ditto, although I barely heard the thunder.  It was pretty wild.  We went to zero visibility in seconds when the meat of the squall hit.

season snowfall: 34.8"

'22-23: 30.2"      '21-22: 27.1"      '20-21: 52.5"      '19-20: 36.2"      '18-19: 50.2"      '17-18: 39.5"

Average snowfall: ~30"

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00z GGEM looks rather cold for the 1st week of April...Blocking will be Rocking and controlling the weather pattern.  Someone in our region is going to get hit with big snows.  Too early to say where now but certainly on the table.

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00z GGEM looks rather cold for the 1st week of April...Blocking will be Rocking and controlling the weather pattern. Someone in our region is going to get hit with big snows. Too early to say where now but certainly on the table.

Best guess would be t.o shift the show 150 miles nw on that map similar to what the late week storm does.
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Picked up 0.3" overnight. Did not see it fall though.

78.0" for the season. - good enough.

Mercer Island, 350 ft

2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21

2020-2021: 15.6"

2019-2020: ~10"

2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5"

2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0"

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Going to a spotter training class tonight. I assume some here have gone, are you supposed to bring like a notebook with you or something?

 

Cool! Yeah you might want to. 

It'll show the trainers you're more into it!

 

21° with bright skies now. Saw a couple fender benders on the way into Racine. I don't think the salt trucks were even called out this morning.

Mercer Island, 350 ft

2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21

2020-2021: 15.6"

2019-2020: ~10"

2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5"

2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0"

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Quick hitting snow from last night will melt off by this morning. My gut tells me this is not the last of it either as next week looks very active and juicy and the evenings could be cold enough to drop additional snowfall from any of these approaching systems.

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Quick hitting snow from last night will melt off by this morning. My gut tells me this is not the last of it either as next week looks very active and juicy and the evenings could be cold enough to drop additional snowfall from any of these approaching systems.

Heading into a more typical springtime pattern lots of ups and down but nothing atypical for this time of year.  Anyone denying a change in pattern is wrong

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Heading into a more typical springtime pattern lots of ups and down but nothing atypical for this time of year.  Anyone denying a change in pattern is wrong

Let's just get this change over with and onto a late spring pattern but alas I know it will take longer than I would like especially if blocking does develope and we continue to see lobes of cold funnel south into the Great Lakes region.

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Let's just get this change over with and onto a late spring pattern but alas I know it will take longer than I would like especially if blocking does develope and we continue to see lobes of cold funnel south into the Great Lakes region.

Please explain what you are talking about.

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Quick hitting snow from last night will melt off by this morning. My gut tells me this is not the last of it either as next week looks very active and juicy and the evenings could be cold enough to drop additional snowfall from any of these approaching systems.

 

It was a nice scene this morning. It snowed pretty heavily almost white-out conditions. Looks like a chilly day with temps barely crackiing 30 but I see 60s this weekend!

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Going to a spotter training class tonight. I assume some here have gone, are you supposed to bring like a notebook with you or something?

 

I took a notebook and pen the first couple times I went to a training session, but it just wasn't needed.  You will watch a slide show about how to identify storm structure, shelf clouds, tornadoes, etc., and then they'll give you a sheet or two describing what kind of stuff spotters should report and how to report it.

season snowfall: 34.8"

'22-23: 30.2"      '21-22: 27.1"      '20-21: 52.5"      '19-20: 36.2"      '18-19: 50.2"      '17-18: 39.5"

Average snowfall: ~30"

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Please explain what you are talking about.

I just would like the the ups and downs to end and get into a nice spring pattern where we have normal to above normal temps for an extended period of time. I know springs around these parts are tough but I would love to have "half" a spring like we did 2 years ago.

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What month is it again today???  Looks and feels like mid January esp with these blustery NW winds out there.  Just checked the 00z Euro and it doesn't have anymore 60's on Sunday, heck, 50's will feel just great on Sunday after today's cold.  Opening Day for the Sox may be a little dicy as EURO/GFS have 40's and a back door cold front hitting midday.  It's going to be tough to get any sustained warmth when the atmospheric setup is going against it.  Last few runs on the GFS is showing clear signs of high latitude blocking that locks in cold/cool weather in the Great Lakes region.  It's going to be a miserable start to April.

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Off of JB's Twitter page...."Weatherbell.com sticking with Ugly April areas that have had ugly March, Winter.  Neg NAO developing, strongest cold correlation in April."

 

AO/NAO have a much bigger impact on our weather in the Lower 48 later in winter and into early Spring.  Not soo much during Nov-Dec.  Jan-April more so.

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I took a notebook and pen the first couple times I went to a training session, but it just wasn't needed. You will watch a slide show about how to identify storm structure, shelf clouds, tornadoes, etc., and then they'll give you a sheet or two describing what kind of stuff spotters should report and how to report it.

Thanks man!
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GoSaints, what is your definition of a Pattern Change???  I'm not in denial here.  If you mean temps are trending warmer relative to the temps we have experienced this winter, then Yes, you are correct.  However, if you are speaking in terms of where the overall storm track/troughs/ridges are setting up then you are wrong.  The same pattern has been persistent and was predicted weeks ago if you paid attention to the LRC and other tools I use.  Yes, there will be less snow in systems that develop the next few weeks compared to all the cold systems we have experience during this winter season but it will still snow.  I don't see the pattern breaking any time soon.  Whether it be a very cold rain or concrete snow, we will have both in April.

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High temps on Sunday - EURO. Intra time period between 138-144 hours.

 

 

EURO holds the area near 50° for the Sox opener, so it could be fine.

Mercer Island, 350 ft

2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21

2020-2021: 15.6"

2019-2020: ~10"

2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5"

2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0"

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Given the time of year it is, I think Sunday we have a shot to touch 60 degrees with a southerly flow and sunshine.  Timing of the cold front on Monday differ between the models so that will have to be ironed out as we get closer.  Would suck to be at the game in the warm sector and have a Pneumonia Front come thru during the game.

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Cloudy with a chance of making stuff up !

 

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wkDvqQKGgDA

 

After this winter, one can sympathize with Canada.

 

now THAT was funny! :lol:  Poor folks up north though. It's bad enough where we've been the past 3-1/2 months

Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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